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The NO AFTERMARKET Group Build
Posted by Racedriver on Monday, May 24, 2010 12:01 PM

I have been here for awhile now but have'nt been very active in the forums. I would like to see the interest in a group build where no aftermarket is allowed,no resin cockpits,wheel bays,wheels,etc... and no photo-etch. The catch is I would like to get back to basics and require some sort of scratchbuilt addon whether its as simple as adding hydraulic lines to gear struts or completely rebuilding a cockpit. Now scrap pe frets or scrap resin or parts in the spares box would be allowed as long as it is used in some form of scratchbuilding. Any subject would be allowed in any scale.

My idea for this group build was brought about by the fact that almost every model I have in my stash has some form of aftermarket add-on that I have purchased, which in turn has made me realize we are spoiled by add-ons. That in itself is not a bad thing because I like ultra detailing my models as do alot of people here. I just figured good old fashion ingenuity might be a refreshing break from spending countless dollars on aftermarket add-ons.

The rules:

1) Any scale any subject

2) Some form of scratchbuilding must be on the model.

3) No purpose bought aftermarket for your model.

4) WIP pics are highly recommended especially of the scratchbuilt add-ons.

5) Descriptions of how you did a particular scratchbuilt item would be helpful too so we can learn new techniques.

6) Have fun the scratchbuilt parts dont have to be in the league of Chukw.

 

The start date is going to be 01 July 2010 until 01 July 2011 if I get enough interest. I would like to have a few more people commit before I  make it official.

Also if anyone wants to design a badge I would greatly appreciate it as I am un-skilled in designing something that would be appropriate. Thanks in advance.

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Posted by RBaer on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 2:41 PM

I like the idea, might be in if I can wrap up a couple of things in progress. I've got enough of a stash to pull something out......

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Posted by Racedriver on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:17 PM

Well thats one possible.If everyone is too busy to start another group build, but are interested in this group build give me an idea of a good start time. I was planning on the end date being 1 year from start date, mainly because i realize scratchbuilding can take considerable time. So any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Posted by bbrowniii on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 6:43 PM

When are you thinking of running this?  It has been awhile since I got into a GB and might be interested.

One question - you mentioned specifically not allowing PE.  I assume you mean, specifically, aftermarket PE, since so much comes in kits already it would be hard to 'ban' it altogether...

And would the scratch work be required or simply encouraged.

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Posted by Racedriver on Thursday, May 27, 2010 11:08 AM

Yes - No aftermarket pe, if its included in the kit it is acceptable. Honestly I would rather that no one used a kit with pe included but that is hard to justify. The actual thought in this group build was to break out those old Revellogram, Airfix, Heller etc... kits with sparse details and instead of buying the avaliable aftermarket to detail it  use some of our ingenuity and scraps laying around and scratchbuild to the detail level you desired. So with that in mind  i would have to say yes some form of scratchbuilding is required.

As far as a start date I am open to suggestions because so many are in the middle of numerous other group builds, and assuming some of them are interested in this group build I dont want to overload them with projects. If I had to take a stab I would say a start date of July or August 1st would hopefully allow others to finish what they have going. My intention is for the group build to run 1 year from start date.

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Posted by Trabi on Thursday, May 27, 2010 4:19 PM

oooo!!! Love the idea! I like to make my own "aftermarket parts". Like in good old days back in 70:s - 80:s. More wood, putty and scrab parts etc! I have to finish my former group build(s) first Embarrassed http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/3913/img0527dx.jpg

I know just perfect model for this...

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Posted by Racedriver on Friday, May 28, 2010 7:50 AM

Well Trabi it looks like you wont have any problems with the scratchbuilding if your current project is any indication.

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Posted by Konigwolf13 on Friday, May 28, 2010 8:10 AM

Racedriver I have a few GB's I need to nail down first and then I'll be in like flynn. I'll either do a  WAH-1 Apache or a CH-53GS (Both 1/48 and RoG Kits)

Andrew

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Posted by Racedriver on Friday, May 28, 2010 3:49 PM

Andrew- sounds good I am gonna make the start date 1 July 2010 to allow people interested to finish their current projects.

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Posted by RBaer on Tuesday, June 8, 2010 10:50 AM

I'm leaning towards this one as well. What about kit-bashing? I really like to pull decent tracks out of other kits for a "favored" build, and do a lot of kit bashing as a matter of course anyway.

I'm in the same boat as others, other GBs going, but I always seem to have two or three concurrent projects going on. It's an illness.

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Posted by Racedriver on Wednesday, June 9, 2010 11:41 PM

Kitbashing is fine with me.

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Posted by RBaer on Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:33 PM

Racedriver

Kitbashing is fine with me.

 

Sweet. I think I could do this one. Have to pick something out of the stash....

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Posted by Racedriver on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 1:19 PM

Due to lack of interest and because my work schedule has just doubled for the forseeable future, I will have to cancel this group build. I may participate in a group build or two, but I know I will not be able to monitor this group build properly. So for any who were interested sorry, but if you want  you can host the group build.

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Posted by vetteman42 on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 4:22 PM

Bummer I have an old Revell 1/32 F-16 that would have been perfect for this group as there is no AM out there for it. And the time frame would have been good too.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by fermis on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 5:45 PM

vetteman42

Bummer I have an old Revell 1/32 F-16 that would have been perfect for this group as there is no AM out there for it. And the time frame would have been good too.

Don't let it bum you out.....just grab the reins and run with it. I'd jump in.

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Posted by plasticaddict on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:16 AM

Hi everyone,

I think this will be my first GB ...

Cem.

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Posted by eatthis on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:38 AM

would a 1/72 vulcan be eligable? iv started building it iv never scratchbuilt anything does 15kg of filler count as scratchbuilding?

if so im in :)

 

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Posted by oddmanrush on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:16 AM

Count me in for this one!

Jon

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Posted by vetteman42 on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:09 PM

fermis

 

 vetteman42:

 

Bummer I have an old Revell 1/32 F-16 that would have been perfect for this group as there is no AM out there for it. And the time frame would have been good too.

 

 

Don't let it bum you out.....just grab the reins and run with it. I'd jump in.

I would Fermis if Racedriver would allow it, but I am hosting 2 group builds as it is.

Idea how about you Fermis you would be a great host Big Smile And I would jump in in a New York Minute I would.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by plasticaddict on Thursday, June 24, 2010 1:42 AM

Hi,

I decided to join the GB with a 1/32nd scale Trumpeter Mig3. Reason I chose this one is that it comes with no PE. The model require a complete cockpit rework, so there's a lot of scratch-build involved. Other than cockpit, there are some modifications required here and there but no major stuff.

I already got the model out the closet and started to plan the build Cool

Cem.

 

 

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Posted by Racedriver on Thursday, June 24, 2010 8:35 AM

Anyone is more than welcome to take the reigns on this group build. It seems the interest is picking up so I would hate to see it not continue, but as I stated earlier  I will not be able to give the project  the needed attention due to work conflicts and as we all know with the economy the way it is I have to take the added work while I can. So someone take the reigns and have fun. I think vetteman42 would be an awesome host if he can fit it in.

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Posted by 68GT on Friday, June 25, 2010 4:08 PM

I'm interested in joining in but haven't chimed in till now.  Just putting a bow on one group build and  another is almost ready for paint.  I have another one just looking at me for another build but I like the time line on this build along with the no aftermarket rule.

Unfortunately I don't have the time to host this build.

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Posted by sin4u on Saturday, June 26, 2010 4:12 PM

yay so my big bro got me here and now yall stuck with me haha so my kit is the revell ju52 para transport in 1:48 scale can't wait

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Posted by vetteman42 on Saturday, June 26, 2010 4:57 PM

Guys I just cant see letting this group die and its ok with Racedriver, so I will host the group if its ok with you guys. I would like to start a new front page and will use the rules set forth by Racedriver, I will try and have it up I hope tomorrow evening.  As for my build I will be doing the 1/32 Revell F-16C Fighting Falcon, it will be my first 1/32 scale build should be fun and my second fast mover.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Railfan 233 on Sunday, June 27, 2010 2:42 PM

I've never been able to afford aftermarket parts, so what you describe is essentially what I do on a regular basis. I'm not the best scratch-builder, but I can come-up with something. Not to mention, I have a fairly large stash of left-over parts from other kits I can use.

I guess you can count me in. I'll let you know when I got a kit for the build

  

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Posted by sin4u on Sunday, June 27, 2010 3:52 PM

yay come on badges to earn planes to build i guess this means more time at your place yay man cave rules

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Posted by Racedriver on Sunday, June 27, 2010 11:00 PM

Vetteman42 : you are more than welcome to host this group build. I am glad a veteran of these boards is taking over it should be a great group build and alot of fun. I will peak in from time to time to see how it goes. Thanks again for keeping it alive.

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Posted by vetteman42 on Monday, June 28, 2010 12:25 PM

Racedriver thanks for allowing me to host the group, I just couldn't let such a good idea die. I hope you dont mind I started a new thread so I could post finished pictures on the front page.I do hope you can join in the build when time allows you to and that you like my hosting style.

Guys heres the link to the new page

/forums/t/129395.aspx

 

 

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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