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Posted by JMart on Monday, July 12, 2010 6:40 PM

Great GB and it got up in a hurry! Love to see all those old classics... a Calypso?? awesome! You cannot even GET that one anymore, since there is some nasty copyright issues with Revell and Jackes'  estate; the R/M reissue is called somewhere else. Also loved the different type of kits; aaron, always like your fire-fightning related vehicles, different, well built and interesting.

Can i join in? I need to join a Gb that I actually finish on time lol

I have some 1:700 scale modern subs from ARII (do NOT get them! buy the HobbyBoss, better quality and cheaper~!). From past experience they require new (scale-appropriate) scratchbuilt masts (made of stretched sprue and bits), lots of sanding, specially the props. No AMs of course! ;)   The kits also include a 'water base" made of clear thin plastic. I want to use paints to try and me it look like a proper water base, instead of using water-making chemicals and reagents to "make" water.  It wil be either an Alpha or Trafalgar class (the LA classes are spoken for other GBs).

Will this work? cheers, James

 

 

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Posted by Theuns on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:02 AM

Mornin all.

I just started some initial painting of parts on my 1/48 academy F-15E last night.I must say it seems that either the parts are getting smaler and harder to paint, or time is starting to win the race with my peepers!

Will post a pic later.

Theuns

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Posted by Trabi on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:57 AM

JMart

Great GB and it got up in a hurry! Love to see all those old classics... a Calypso?? awesome! You cannot even GET that one anymore,...

 

Sorry, but Revell Germany makes it still, but without Calypso name. Exploration Vessel:

http://www.revell.de/en/products/model_kits/model_kits/products/?id=210&KGKANR=0&KGKOGP=10&KGSCHL=3&L=1&page=1&sort=0&nc=&searchactive=&q=&SWO=&ARMAS4=&PHPSESSID=2848b3c97f6335f47ef9d3bc9f9f0ce0&KZSLPG=&offset=5&cmd=show&ARARTN=05101&sp=1

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Posted by plasticaddict on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 3:13 AM

Hello all,

I've been quite busy at work but still some modelling work is done.

After deciding to join this group build with a Mig3, I've done some research and found a great resource for better accuracy: The VVS site by Massimo Tessitori if you are into Mig's, then you should visit the site.

Anyways, through the site I found this great resource for building Turmpeter Mig3's.

After that it was all downhill until now:

The cockpit framework

Front cockpit floor; supplied floor was somewhat very flat, so it had to be deepened which I did with some copper sheet. The part is also cut to allow leaving the underside of the seat empty (i.e. the framework visible) like in the prototype.

The fuselage side panels are made of copper sheet and 1 mm brass wire.

The back and the bottom of the seat will be attached to the framework seperately. Here's the back:

And the bottom:

Test fitting the seat:

Fuselage side panel is glued in place:

That's all for now.

I know I'm not much fun these days ... but I hope to be in better shape soon Big Smile

Cem.

 

 

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Posted by Theuns on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 3:57 AM

WOW after seeing the stunning quality on this thread, I believe I am WAY out of my leque hereEmbarrassed

Theuns

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Posted by oddmanrush on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:13 PM

Theuns

WOW after seeing the stunning quality on this thread, I believe I am WAY out of my leque hereEmbarrassed

Theuns

No way man! Join up, build, and have fun! My work has been pretty elementary so far compared to what some others have goin' on here.

Considering I'm almost done with the A-4, I was thinking of adding another build (or two) since there is still plenty of time left. I have a detail depleted P-47 and Ki-43-II in the stash that I could do. We'll see.

Jon

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Posted by Railfan 233 on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:22 PM

Go for it, Oddman. I'd love to see what you can do with WWII aircraft, since you said earlier that you do them more than anything else. (Oh, boy! more aircraft on the way. Cool)

  

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Posted by oddmanrush on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:48 PM

Yeah, my only problem is painting right now. I haven't touched my airbrush since December (I'm going through intense withdrawal). I had to pack every thing up early January because we moved to a new house. Well, moving into a new house I lost my work area. So, if you haven't noticed from my pics, I work on my kitchen table. Well, I've been really cautious about starting to airbrush. I used to airbrush in the basement, where no one but myself ventured and therefore were unaffected by fumes. I have no booth. Even if I did, I have no where to put it.

So, I'm thinking of limiting the length of my sessions. If I paint within a large, clear plastic tote, that will limit over spray. Also, if I spray at night, when the kids and wife are in bed, that will certainly limit their exposure to the fumes. I have a respirator so no real issue for me. I'm still real wary about this though.

Any thoughts?

I'm not going to purchase material to make a booth, because like I said before, I'm cheap Whistling and I simply don't have room for it, let alone a place to run any kind of duct work. I'm pretty confident my idea is sound but I can't get over the hump...

Jon

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Posted by vetteman42 on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 5:13 PM

jmabx

Hey Randy... I'm hoping the teaser is the paint scheme on your pretty little Spit applied all over that monster F-16! Stick out tongue  Haha... that would be cool!!!

  Of course, If I could scratch build like that Fermis fella, I would never spend a dime on extra goodies!  Wink

Jmabx actually I hadnt even thought of a color scheme yet, but I think you may have a great idea there and will give it some very serious thought.Thanks for the idea Yes Oh and I have to agree with you about the plastic surgeon Doc Fermis if I have even half his skill I would be a happy camper I am tellin ya.

Jmart by all means you are most welcome in our humble group Welcome Sign Just let me know what you will be building so I can offically list you on the front page.

 

Plasticaddict what ???? WOW!!!!!!! I have been working on ICM's MiG-3 and that truss gave me nightmares, so small and delicate. Now you go and make one with brass and solder it all up then add all the other details to it ?? This is just over the top man, beautiful stunning work you have done there. Sorry about gushing over it like a school girl but I am very impressed indeed. Hey and thanks for the Trumpeter build link too, it will come in handy as I have a second ICM kit in the stash.

Theuns hey come on man no one is outta their league in this group. We all learn improve and have a blast so dont be afraid to jump in and build we all want to see your work. I for one really wanna see your F-15 Eagle.  And you wont believe how being in one of these groups will improve you skills and how fast it will happen.


Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Railfan 233 on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 6:02 PM

I have an idea,Oddman, which I personaly do whenever I use my airbrush or spray-cans:

Take your work out side, along with your airbrush/ spray cans, and paint out there. If the wether is bad, and if you have a garage, leave the door open, and do your painting in there ( with a fan on a low setting to provide air circulation)

If you need a spray booth, use a large, empty box (if you are like me, you probably have a few hundred laying around from the move) if it's too dark inside, then cut out a large square or rectangular opening in the designated "top" side, and cover the opening with clear packing tape (Or, just leave it open)

One more idea from me, for building a "DIY cheep spray booth" ventalation system, is to buy an old (really old, and cheep) computer tower from a yardsale,  and salvage a cooling fan from it (Afterwards, you can sell some of the good components like a CD/DVD drive to make some money, or you can smash it to releave stressSmile) For a power source, it'll depend on your fan, but I find that a simple circut with some batteries, a resistor, and a switch works good. Just point it out an open window, or garage door, and it'll be good.

I hope this helps.

  

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Posted by Theuns on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:16 AM

Here is my effort sofar of the Academy 1/48 F-15E

The office is basically completed,I had to scrach build (as per rules) the safety harnases, red ejection safetypin straps and the O2 connection pipes.

Hope the rest of the build is so easy, I have heard that the nose section on this model doesn't line up that wellSad

Theuns

F-15001.jpg Academy 1/48 F-15E cockpit picture by lmc001

F-15003.jpg Academy 1/48 F-15E cockpit picture by lmc001

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Posted by oddmanrush on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:27 AM

Theuns comin' along nicely! I certainly wish you luck if indeed the nose section doesn't line up. One of the biggest pains, in my opinion, is when fuselage halves don't align! Bang Head

Rail thanks for the idea but really I don't have the space to get complex. I'm probably just going to test it out on the dining room table and see what happens. If worse comes to worse, I'll have to take it on to the back deck.

Jon

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Posted by Railfan 233 on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:47 PM

I'm sorry my idea won't work for you, Oddman. If you test it out on your dining room table, please don't forget to lay plenty of newspaper down to catch overspray (Your wife will refuse to support you if she finds paint on the table).Big Smile

Good luck with the testing

  

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Posted by oddmanrush on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:08 PM

Rail you airbrush outside? How does that work out for you? I don't want the climate or weather to play adverse effects on my paint.

Either way, I'm probably just gonna have to stop worrying about it, eat it, and do the best I can under the circumstances.

Jon

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Posted by Railfan 233 on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:53 PM

Well, technically, I airbrush in my garage, but I leave the door and windows open for ventalation (and there are gaps in the wetherstripping around the door) so I am essentially airbrushing outside. I've had no adverse effects due to the climate, and the paint has been curing at normal rates, as if I was inside (with the exception of during a huricane or in the middle of a Noreaster making the curing time extra long)

But, the only problem I see with airbrushing outside is if you live in a climate with freak wether changes (like if it goes from sunny skies with no clouds to a tourrential downpour in 5 secconds flat) What I normally do is I buy a used baking sheet (like a pizza sheet or a cookie sheet) from a yardsale or at the local Salvation Army (or other thrift store) and just place the items to be airbrushed on it. I then take it out and airbrush it, and then I just leave it out in the garage ( I leave a fan going to help with the fumes, but I normally close the door after a minute, to prevent an easy target for a robber)

With my idea of the cardboard box I mentioned earlier, that is something I plan on doing in the future (I'm a cheep modeler, too) but, I'm happy with taking the $0.50 cookie sheet out to the garage for airbrushing.

 

Here's the first update of my seccond kit for this group build, the Dodge Monaco police car from Hazzard County. I plan on doing it out of the box, but I have scratch-built some extra goodies for it's detail:

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Here's the engine. Nothing to show except for a custom (technically scratch-built?) paint color for Dodge Orange on the engine block. You will see what the pins in the background are used for next.

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Here's the next photo, with the interior. It's kind of comical with it, because the interior looks too small (as if it was compressed during the design process) It also included an arsinal of firepower that would rival a batalion of soldiers (including a Tompson SMG, 2 or 3 shotguns, an M-16, and a Ruger Mini-14) I've seen the Dukes of Hazzard TV show re-runs enough to know that the Hazzard County Sheriff's office didn't stock the cars with wepons like that, so I left them and the gunrack out.

I scratch-built the wires going to the CB radio and police scanner with some more of that lamp-cord I used earlier to scratch-build brake lines on my M-35 truck earlier. I basically just wound it aound a pin, like what could be seen in the first photo. After that, I just painted it and super-glued it to the handset and the radios. The handsets themselves were glued to the dashboard.

That's just about it. I've still got some more scratch-building to come for the car, but not much. Even though I like nearing the end of the build, so I can start to see what I've been building will look like finnished, it leaves me with verry little to multi-task on (like working on both the engine and the interior at the same time). I guess it comes with the territory. I just got to paint the car body, and then do the final assembly, where the last scrattch-built details will come into play.

  

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Posted by oddmanrush on Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:54 AM

Railfan looks good. Fine job on the radio equipment. If i were you, I would have definitely included the firepower Big Smile But that's me.

Looks like I'm going to join you with multiple builds for this thread. I was going to start painting the Scooter last night but I stepped outside to thisStorm and some of this Lightning so I poured myself on of these Beer and began working on this......

Its an older kit. I purchased it at the same time I bought the A-4. Another cheap, show bought item, went for $7. Can't beat that. Except the port side fuselage half is slightly bowed, but I don't think it'll be a problem for a little super glue and clamp.

This kit has ZERO detail. The office floor is flat. No pedals. No side walls. NO FLIGHT STICK Hmm Really? A model with no flight stick?? I kid you not. Any way, here is my start.....

The seat back didn't have the correct shape, so I made it look more correct. Sorry for the poor quality photos. If the digi cam isn't handy at the moment, which it wasn't, I use my cell phone. When I get more detail, I'll get the digi cam out. Any way, I completed the scratch building of the interior and pics will come soon.

On a final note about scratch building.....I don't aim for spot on accuracy. I'll admit it, I'm not a stickler for detail. So what you see later on may not be exact. I simply want to create a representation of what should be there. When you look into the interior of an aircraft, there should be something there, a radio, a throttle box, harnesses, what ever. And that is what I try to do. Put something visualyl attractive, a decent representation there. It may not pass to an expert, but that's fine. Most people that see my models are no experts.

I'll carry on later.

Jon

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Posted by Railfan 233 on Thursday, July 15, 2010 1:54 PM

It's looking good, Oddman. Sorry about the airbrushing outside not working out for you (you must live in an area with freak showers, like what's happening to me right now)

I'm also doing an airplane of myself, that I might as well include. It's the old Airfix 1/72 scale F-4 Phantom. Originaly, I just wanted to do an OOB build to kill some down-time on my bench, but Lo and behold, the same story for the cocpit in Oddman's Thunderbolt. just a plain floor (with a joystick for the front pilot) 2 plain seats, and the pilot and RO. So, I've started scratch-building details for the interior, and Poof!, I got me another build to enter (scratch-building with styrene is addictiveBig Smile Mabe too much so.....) As known, I'm a fan of any jet loaded to the teeth with iron, so I'm including a full load-out on the thing.

Oh, by the way, I like the firepower in the police car, too, but with the compression of the interior, I decided agenst it (the bad guys need legroom,tooSmile) Never fear, as I plan to get a model of an A-TEAM van, in which I'll place the guns.

  

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Posted by oddmanrush on Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:12 PM

Well, I looked out the window today and I can see clearly now, the rain is gone. Look all around, there is nothing but blue sky. Look straight ahead! Nothin' but blue skyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.

Sorry, couldn't resist. Looks like I'll be able to paint tonight!!

Jon

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Posted by Railfan 233 on Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:44 PM

I don't remember hearing any lyrics like that. Which song does it go to?

I can't wait to see the finished productYes

  

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Posted by oddmanrush on Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:46 PM

Jon

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Posted by Railfan 233 on Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:52 PM

Thanks for the link, but I can't hear the song (my "smart" computer has been having toubbles with the soundcard.

I swear, computers are only fun if you have a high-powered machine gunSmileDevil

  

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Posted by oddmanrush on Friday, July 16, 2010 12:13 AM

Any body home?

I've made some progress on the A-4 and the P-47. As of right now, the Scooter is pre-shaded. That was quite a task, long story short, I need a moisture trap.

As for the P-47, have a look see.This is the pit, everything is scratch build except for the seat...

Here are the fuselage side walls. I added extra bits and pieces. Like I said before, maybe not totally accurate, but stuff is there....

And this is the finished pit...

Let me know what you think. Thanks!

 

Jon

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Posted by vetteman42 on Friday, July 16, 2010 12:27 AM

Oddmanrush tis late but I am home Smile

I build that kit a few years ago and let me tell ya thats a great improvement you made on the cockpit. I really like what you did with the sidewalls and the pit floor. The rudder peddles are very nice too are they metal or plastic ? I cant tell from the pictures.  Very well done YesYes

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Railfan 233 on Friday, July 16, 2010 8:18 AM

That cocpit looks great, Oddman.

 I wasn't here at 1 AM when you posted, but it sure did take my computer almost a whole hour to load (it said the page was 100%loaded, but the screen remained blank)

 I can't wait to see the A-4, as well as the completed Thunderbolt

  

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Posted by oddmanrush on Friday, July 16, 2010 9:26 AM

Vetteman late night for both of us. You build this kit eh? What a mess. Would you agree? Took me a ton of super glue to get the fuse halves together, then a ton of masking tape to hold it all together. Its a really quick build though, not many pieces....well its quick if you're not trying to scratch build every thing Big Smile Thanks for the kind words! The rudder peddles are made from this metal. To be precise, its bits of the pull off top you would remove from a can of baby formula, or coffee. Its sturdy but easy to cut and bend. Thanks again.

Railfan I work for a technology company so I know how frustrating computers can be! Thanks for the comments. The A-4 is going to come along slowly until I get my act together with the airbrush. This group build lasts for a year.....hope you can wait that long, you may just have to Wink! I kid, probably not. Its pre-shaded, I just need to purchase a moisture trap so I can spray paint, rather than power wash my model Angry

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Posted by Railfan 233 on Friday, July 16, 2010 12:25 PM

you work for a technology company, Oddman? How many times have you thought about throwing a computer over a cliff? (I personally would just carry a gun in, and shoot the computer when it crashedDevil)

Technology, one of the necissary evils that ain't so much necissary, but more evil

Good luck with finding the moisture trap. Check with the Harbor Freaght Tool Co. I think they may have one. If all else fails, you can get a new compressor from there. I got mine (a 1/8HP Central Pneumatics) for $60.00. I think they may have  moisture traps for the compressors.

I still can't get the immage of pressure-washing out of my head. Did it look something like this?:

 

  

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Posted by oddmanrush on Friday, July 16, 2010 12:59 PM

Railfan 233

I still can't get the immage of pressure-washing out of my head. Did it look something like this?:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/196/486150469_30054e2cd6.jpg

 

Yeah, that's about right! Big Smile Harbor Freight, that's a good idea...hadn't thought to go there and its not far from my neighborhood. I was just going to order one online, specifically for my 1/8hp Paasche D500 I use from the Paasche website. They run about $35 and come with a regulator (which I don't have - remember? I'm cheap...) So the addition should help a great deal.

Jon

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Posted by vetteman42 on Friday, July 16, 2010 1:37 PM

oddmanrush

 

 Railfan 233:

 

I still can't get the immage of pressure-washing out of my head. Did it look something like this?:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/196/486150469_30054e2cd6.jpg

 

 

 

Yeah, that's about right! Big Smile Harbor Freight, that's a good idea...hadn't thought to go there and its not far from my neighborhood. I was just going to order one online, specifically for my 1/8hp Paasche D500 I use from the Paasche website. They run about $35 and come with a regulator (which I don't have - remember? I'm cheap...) So the addition should help a great deal.

WOW!!!!!!!!!! I have a Harbor Freight compressor and Deluxe airbrush, maybe I should consider getting one of those Paasche compressors if they will pressure wash that well, mine wont even come close to that. Stick out tongue

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by oddmanrush on Friday, July 16, 2010 1:51 PM

vetteman42

 

 

 

WOW!!!!!!!!!! I have a Harbor Freight compressor and Deluxe airbrush, maybe I should consider getting one of those Paasche compressors if they will pressure wash that well, mine wont even come close to that. Stick out tongue

I was just looking at that set online. How do they work for you? The compressor I saw looked almost exactly the same as the Paasche. It was a package deal, AB and Compressor plus accessories for about $80. Pretty nice.

But in all seriousness, no, it isn't that bad but it is very annoying. Trying to get stuff done and the thing is spittin' all over the place...

Jon

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, July 16, 2010 2:01 PM

Dayum, 8 pages and just seeing this now?  I gotta come in here more often...

All these works look great so far..

Any chance I can still get in?  This's EXACTLY my kind of build..

I just cracked open an ancient 1/48th Fujimi D3A Val dive bomber on Wednesday, a great "Old School" kit.... Started the 'pit already (it was an Ebay kit, missing the pilot's seat so I already started scratchin' that) and the wings came already glued together (lucky for me, they were glued nicely) ... I've also started adding the interior framing to the fuselage sides as well...

If it's too late, I'll just keep on it anyway...

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