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Posted by Hercmech on Friday, September 16, 2011 10:13 AM

Gamera

Herc: I checked my reference material last night but wasn't able to find many photos of the Ki-46 other than some grainy b&w ones.

Best I could find:

http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab85/Tempest977/Rising%20Sun%20Group%20Build/DSCN0029.jpg

The restored plane may or may not be accurate of course. The decal instructions are from Empire City and should be pretty close though.

Thanks Brother Turtle.

That was exactly what I was looking for. FS30140 looks about right for what I am trying to cover. Now to find a paint that matches. I am lucky that I have the FS fandeck so it may mean a trip to Hobby Lobby to buy some craft paint to match.


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Posted by Gamera on Friday, September 16, 2011 10:17 AM

Great! I was worried it might not be readable. And I forgot to grab the kit instuctions when I headed out to work this morning.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by bsyamato on Friday, September 16, 2011 10:34 AM

Another great one started Trey Yes

gamera i'll put on the badge.

The little icm ki-27 arrived with other supplies !!!!!!! finally i can start, i just had few minuted to take a speedy look on the new kits arrived , asap i'll post pictures but a thing is sure: the kit looks nice and ....is reeeaally a little plane Tongue Tied

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, September 16, 2011 10:39 AM

Bsyamato: Very cool! Looking forward to seeing her.

BTW: Finally got around to taking a shot of the box art for my kit. Still working on the cockpit, taking me a little longer than normal since I have to do the internal bomb bay at the same time.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by tigerman on Friday, September 16, 2011 1:35 PM

Did you see this Hercmech?

*edit* I misread your post. I thought you were looking for a different color, but I now see you found one.

Cliff, love the Judy. I did hear that this kit is not a shake-and-bake, so I'll be interested to see how it builds up. So far, no other choices in 1/48. 

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, September 16, 2011 1:40 PM

tigerman

Did you see this Cliff?

http://www.hsgalleries.com/gallery04/images/ki46rdk_9.jpg

Wow, Eric that's awesome. Is that faded IJA brown?

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by carsanab on Friday, September 16, 2011 1:44 PM

Gamera

Bsyamato: Very cool! Looking forward to seeing her.

BTW: Finally got around to taking a shot of the box art for my kit. Still working on the cockpit, taking me a little longer than normal since I have to do the internal bomb bay at the same time.

http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab85/Tempest977/Rising%20Sun%20Group%20Build/DSCN0022.jpg

G....got this on my Ebay watch list.....how is it??? would like to see a pic of its innards....Z

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Posted by Hercmech on Friday, September 16, 2011 1:57 PM

tigerman

Did you see this Hercmech?

*edit* I misread your post. I thought you were looking for a different color, but I now see you found one.

Cliff, love the Judy. I did hear that this kit is not a shake-and-bake, so I'll be interested to see how it builds up. So far, no other choices in 1/48. 

http://www.hsgalleries.com/gallery04/images/ki46rdk_9.jpg

That is the color I am after. What did you use?

Don't happen to have a spare control column do you?Wink


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Posted by Gamera on Friday, September 16, 2011 2:30 PM

Eric & Big-Z: Well, I cut most of the parts off the sprue on this one but I've got the night fighter version and the radial engine as well. I'll post photos of one or the other this weekend.

Overall on a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being perfect I'll give the kit a 7. Fit and detail are good but not really Tamiya or Hasegawa quality- I'd compare it to an Academy or older '80s era Hasegawa kit. Several sinkholes and injection pin holes need to be filled.

Don't think I'm bashing the kit, it's a solid model - it just requires a little more TLC than newer ones. I'd recommend it to anyone that wants a Suisei. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by tigerman on Friday, September 16, 2011 2:52 PM

I wish this were my build! LOL

I pulled this up off of Hyperscale. Isn't it kind of a faded red-brown? I'm not sure. I'll see if I can find more info. there is a good site to check out. 

http://www.j-aircraft.com/ 

There was a great article from Harvey Low in an FSM some years ago and it gave a paint breakdown. I'll see if I can locate it.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by Hercmech on Friday, September 16, 2011 3:12 PM

tigerman

I wish this were my build! LOL

I pulled this up off of Hyperscale. Isn't it kind of a faded red-brown? I'm not sure. I'll see if I can find more info. there is a good site to check out. 

http://www.j-aircraft.com/ 

There was a great article from Harvey Low in an FSM some years ago and it gave a paint breakdown. I'll see if I can locate it.

I thought that aircraft looked familar, I saw it eairler this week and knew that was the color I wanted to paint mine. I just figured you did it and posted it over there and got all excited that you had the secret decoder ring for the color. Big Smile


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Posted by TREYZX10R on Friday, September 16, 2011 3:15 PM

Hercmech thanks ,yea hope to score another ace badge here lol. Do'nt feel bad my building will slow way down soon ,the cool riding months are fast approaching and I'll be kneedraggin' more than building. Got beat to the punch on the color ref thats the same as the one I found for your Ki27

Nathan thanks, do'nt expect too much its gonna be a closed canopy gear up 'in flight ' build

Gamera looking forward to seeing some pics of your build, I was thinking it should be bigger than the Zeke heres what dimensions I found

Zeke span 39'4.5"                                                        Ki84 span 36'10.5"

          length 29'9"                                                                   length 32'1.25"

           empty weight 3,920lbs                                            empty weight 5,864lbs

heres a couple of comparison pics

the Ki kit has a actual span of 9.25" and length is 8" if I did my math right this would put the span at about 37' and the length 32' so it's not too out of sorts

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Posted by bsyamato on Friday, September 16, 2011 4:35 PM

great piece gamera Yes want to see how judy grow up

Herchmech i tried to find something about the ki-46 colour but only founded bw pictures and scale drwings sorry Sad

then the kits arrived today, a seabfat for another gb , the precious ki-27 , other suppies and .. no breguet 693 Crying

so, this is the kit

high detailed is this kit Geeked good options have, as the whole good reproduced engine with all opened option (sure i leave it opened) 

details are (unfortunately for me) as the real , not all recessed or positive panel lines, lots of micro extruded maintenace panels and so on. On the secont picture you can see the under cockpit wing part Indifferent

ip , seats , rear engine bulkeads, all detailed at good level, finally i can say (at least before to start) to bild an oob!

the under wing to show the detail type

and an istant dry fit , not perfect but after builded an amodel kit nothing can fear me Alien (only the airfix sm-79)

soon some progress, i just starting the plane now and probably i'll upload some wip pictures with the saturday rising sun Cool

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Posted by tigerman on Friday, September 16, 2011 6:57 PM

Hercmech

 

 tigerman:

 

I wish this were my build! LOL

I pulled this up off of Hyperscale. Isn't it kind of a faded red-brown? I'm not sure. I'll see if I can find more info. there is a good site to check out. 

http://www.j-aircraft.com/ 

There was a great article from Harvey Low in an FSM some years ago and it gave a paint breakdown. I'll see if I can locate it.

 

 

I thought that aircraft looked familar, I saw it eairler this week and knew that was the color I wanted to paint mine. I just figured you did it and posted it over there and got all excited that you had the secret decoder ring for the color. Big Smile

LOL.

I'm working on my first real aircraft build, not just a throw together Monogram kit that I built when I was 8. I never painted them either. LOL

I once painted a Tony with a brush. Actually it wasn't that bad and the green swirls do look brushed on, at least on the box they did. However, this will be all AB'd.

I'll look later for that color, but brown is starting to ring a bell. 

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by tigerman on Friday, September 16, 2011 11:08 PM

This may not help. I found the paint guide in the December 1998 FSM. The color could be described as a khaki-drab brown, I guess. Closest match might be Gunze H72, Polly Scale 505252, and Testors model master enamel 1702. I could be wrong about all this. It looks more red-brown to me.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by Hercmech on Saturday, September 17, 2011 9:38 AM

Thank you for all of the help Tigerman. That is why i love the forums couldnt imagine how i would have figured it out


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Posted by bsyamato on Saturday, September 17, 2011 12:56 PM

some nate update

i glued and painted some piece

flashe actually removed

the cockpit engineering is a little complicated 

the whole glued structure (with machine gun, not yet gklued,  that fire through the engine cylinder Indifferent)

need to be glued after the fuselage assembly. 

breaked a V structure piece for the engine castle i scratched the remaining too, and painted the cockpit walls with silver .The cockpit color is wrong on the instruction (really strange Hmm all the kits report even the right colors ..) 

after i paint it with dark blue/gray as finded on some reference site, and try to remove simulating chipping.

First thinned black on the engine

tht's all for now, returning this night to work on


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Posted by TREYZX10R on Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:51 PM

Great looking progress Bsyamato and nice fix sratching the engine frame work!

I'm moving along with the Hayate,nice touch are the supplied gear up doors thanks Tamiya!

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Posted by Hercmech on Saturday, September 17, 2011 5:55 PM

Nice progress fellows.


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Posted by TREYZX10R on Saturday, September 17, 2011 11:36 PM

Thanks Hercmech, got some silver base on it tonight

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Posted by tigerman on Saturday, September 17, 2011 11:45 PM

Hercmech, don't trust me, i could be wrong. I would eyeball it and see what you think.

Trey, I probably asked this before, but what are you using for the NMF?

 

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, September 18, 2011 11:02 AM

Bsyamato: Great work, as you said though after the A-Model kit this one should be easy! Looks like a very detailed kit, amazing to me the detail you can pack into 1/72nd scale.

Trey: Wow, you're almost halfway to finishing off your second model! And she looks good!

 

Here are some pre-shrunk badges:

 

 

BTW: Was thinking of adding a rank to the badges for those like Trey who complete more than one build:

1 build - no rank

2 builds- Samurai

3 builds- Hatamoto

4 builds- Daimyo

5 builds- Shogun

As before if you guys think it sounds goofy I'll drop it.

 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, September 18, 2011 11:14 AM

Ok, the other two Suisei kits by FineMolds. I thought the radial engine D4Y4 was rare but picked it up a show for $25.00 bucks- I consider myself lucky on that.

Parts layout, like a dummy I forgot the sprue with the seats and cockpit parts- it's only a small one though.

The nightfighter version comes with three white metal parts for the 'Jazz Music' gun mounted at a 45% angle in the rear gunner's position. It was designed to 'park' the aircraft in the blind spot under an Allied bomber and fire up into it's belly. Oddly the kit shows the bomb being mounted in the kit but I can't see one being carried for shooting down bombers on home defense Hmm . The radial engine D4Y4 has a different sprue for the larger cowling and a much larger bomb which barely fits the bomb bay (the doors had to be left off).

 

Anyway my cockpit is mostly done other than a few clear pieces I'll attach later and adding a little gloss clear to the instrument faces. Lost my control stick too and used a small wire with the insulation left on the top for the grip- I still need to paint the fire button with a dab of silver.Other than that she's outta-the-box but for the Eduard pre-painted seat-belts.

White blob on the oxygen cylinders where I glued it to a sprue for painting, it will be turned toward the fuselage wall and not visible. 

 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by bsyamato on Sunday, September 18, 2011 11:59 AM

Want to be able on nmf finish with brushes Crying nice on your Trey Yes

edit

thanx Gamera ,i'm really surprised from this kit, not expected so. Also the kit include the parts to do the other ki-27 variant, earlier than this, with uncovered wheels. Good for the unused pieces magazine.

the radial judy looks really nice too ...even if  till now not see ugly ww2 jap planes Confused and the finihed cockpit reaaly great Yes

Ii'm about to put the navy blue humbrol 77, is the nearest color i have to match the ki-27 ,asap put more updates ..

ps: failed!!! never put the 11 humbrol silver as first color Bang Head removed at least from cockpit walls Crying

 

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Posted by tigerman on Sunday, September 18, 2011 1:02 PM

Nice pit there Cliff.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by Hercmech on Sunday, September 18, 2011 1:36 PM

Trey, nice looking silver coat. Gamera, loving the pit you have going on


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Posted by jay12472 on Sunday, September 18, 2011 7:10 PM

nice work going on here

I finally got started on my jack.

I also have a frank that i was planning on have done before all the rain hit and was wondering if I could enter that to I  just hit it with the silver coat

Jason

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, September 18, 2011 7:51 PM

Thanks guys, I hope it looks worthy of the two weeks I put into it, don't think I've ever spent that much time detailing a cockpit- and the kit comes with a solid canopy so unless I work up the guts to cut it open you probably won't see that much of it Confused

Jason: Sure! I'll go ahead and put you down - what company and scale? I'm guessing 1/72nd?

 

 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:13 PM

Eric thanks I use tamiya ts30 silver leaf

Gamera nice score  great you got the in line and radial version. That office looks freakin awesome Dude,nicely done!!!!

I decided to go with the over all grey scheme and undercoated the fuse with some different shades to give it some depth

Then 3 coats of  thinned down Imperial grey

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Posted by jay12472 on Monday, September 19, 2011 6:43 AM

There both 72 scale. older  hasegawa kits

Jason

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