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Offical P-40 Group Build 2012

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Offical P-40 Group Build 2012
Posted by the real red baron on Sunday, January 22, 2012 5:25 PM

Well we had enough interest in the feeler to start the offical thread for the P-40 Group build.

Start date: *June 1 2012* --- *June 1 2013*

Rules

1 - Must be a P-40

2 - Any varient, nation are accpetable

3 - "what ifs" may be acceptable, just ask me.

Any ???? just ask.

Some helpful sites:

http://www.p40warhawk.com/

http://www.chuckhawks.com/p40.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtiss_P-40_Warhawk

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/1999/09/stuff_eng_p40.htm - Thanks Gamera.


Here is the official badge - you can take the badge when you please, but if you dont finish you must give it back.

It took my a while to find this but this pic as acutally a WWII poster.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by the real red baron on Sunday, January 22, 2012 5:25 PM

Roster:

The Real Red Baron
- Academy 1:72 P-40E warhawk.

ww2psycho - Academy 1:48 P-40 tomahawk IIb.

dante821 - Monogram 1:48 P-40B tomahawk.

MSgtMJ62 - Trumpetor 1:32 P-40B tomahawk.

DoogsATX - Hasegawa 1:32 P-40M warhawk -- P-40F warhawk conversion.

Kirby70 - Academy 1:48 P-40C tomahawk.

CallSignOWL - Revell 1:32 P-40E warhawk.

Swingr1121 - TBD.

Gamera - Hasegawa 1:48 P-40N warhawk

STFD637 - Academy 1:72 P-40M/N warhawk.

Ninetalis - Academy 1:48 P-40C tomahawk.

Lewbud - TBD

RandyPandy831 -TBD

MJames70 - Airfix P-40b tomahawk - FINISHED



WVP51guy - TBD

Big_Dog - Monogram 1:48 P-40B/C tomahawk

lawdog114 - Hasegawa 1:48 P-40N warhawk - FINISHED (first completed build)

frightful6_7 - TBD

Old Ordie - Hasegawa 1:48 P-40E warhawk

redraider56 - Hasegawa 1:48 P-40E warhawk

DJinFlorida - 1:48 P-40b tomahawk

DJinFlorida's daughter - Academy 1:72 P-40b tomahawk

taxtp - Academy 1:72 P-40M/N warhawk.

Tags: P40

 

 

 

 

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Posted by swingr1121 on Sunday, January 22, 2012 5:31 PM

I'm in

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Posted by Kirby70 on Sunday, January 22, 2012 5:54 PM

Count me in. I will do the Academy 1/48 P-40c...most likely flying tigers version. This is my first group build. I think it will be fun.

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Posted by the real red baron on Sunday, January 22, 2012 6:00 PM

Swingr - What brand, kit and scale?

Kirby70 - I got you down. Group builds are very helpful, you get loads of advice and help. I used to a brush painter. Then a friendly forum member sent me a airbrush.

Welcome aboard and too the forum!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, January 23, 2012 7:54 AM

Baron Von Richtofen:

Please put me down with a 1/48 P-40. Haven't decided what company or P-40 model but I've got some AVG 'Flying Tigers' decals I really itching to use so she'll probably be an early model P-40 and probably from Hasegawa.

BTW: Found this website while looking up which versions served with the AVG:

Modeler's Guide to P-40 Variants

Cliff

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by swingr1121 on Monday, January 23, 2012 8:15 AM

Red Baron, I haven't decided on a kit or scale yet.  I believe that I've got something like 10 different P-40s in multiple scales so we'll see.  I just know that I'll be in on this build.

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Posted by DoogsATX on Monday, January 23, 2012 9:40 AM

Gamera

Baron Von Richtofen:

Please put me down with a 1/48 P-40. Haven't decided what company or P-40 model but I've got some AVG 'Flying Tigers' decals I really itching to use so she'll probably be an early model P-40 and probably from Hasegawa.

BTW: Found this website while looking up which versions served with the AVG:

Modeler's Guide to P-40 Variants

Cliff

The P-40 most associated with the AVG is definitely the P-40B/C (apparently the lend-lease P-40s they got were serialed as Cs, but actually equipped more like Bs...). 

They received P-40Es in the spring of 1942, but I believe that was after they'd been integrated into the USAAF.

Hasegawa makes a sweet P-40E, but if you're after a -B it's the old Revellogram or the newer Trumpeter (which I know the rivet-counters hate because the angle of the rear stabs is off, or something).

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, January 23, 2012 10:24 AM

Doogs:

Thanks! I was leaning toward the P-40E but I need to look at the decal sheet to see which version I need. I'll give the Revell or Trumpy kit a look if it says P-40B or C.

Edit: The AVG decal sheet doesn't say which version but yeah I'm assuming either a B or C. I'm going to have to do some more research.

Have a second sheet from Zotz with some really nice nose art for a P-40N.

I'll make up my mind one way or the other by June. Big Smile

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Big_Dog on Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:54 PM

The AVG received its fist P-40E models on 22 March 1942. These were in the standard US Army Dark Olive Drab 41 over Neutral Gray 43. The fuselage stars were painted over with dark green paint and Chinese roundels were applied directly over the US stars on the wings. The US ARMY was left on the bottom of the wings. These did get Sharks mouths and some got the Disney decals of the tiger. Most did not receive the squadron bands, pilot names or kill marks with at least one exception to that. They also did not receive CAF tail numbers either. Numbers from 101 to 134 have been verified from period photos.

 

For what it is worth the Revel P40B Flying Tigers decals are sort of a mix of two planes piloted by R. T. Smith. The Angel and kill marks are from #77. The tail number is from #47 that latter became the 23rd FG #14. The wheel decals and fuselage band are also wrong. The yellow should be blue on the wheels and the band should be red. Also the spinner should be either the brown or green of the camo scheme most were brown.

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, January 28, 2012 6:00 PM

Big_Dog:

Thanks! My decal sheet didn't say which model so I'm going to have to do some more research. As Doogs said I think the aircraft is a C model but these were intended for export to the UK as Tomahawk Mk II and were built with some features from the B model. I'm still a bit confused.

Leaning now toward building a N model but we'll see.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Big_Dog on Saturday, January 28, 2012 6:42 PM

They should be for a B/C model unless the number is 101 or up. I am not sure the exact differences between the model manufactures B/C models so I do not know if decals for one will fit well on another.

 

Doogs is correct that these were C models that got some B stuff. All of the differences are internal except that C models could carry a drop tank and the AVG models could not.

 

I would recommend the book "American Volunteer Group Colours and Markings" from the Osprey Aircraft of the Aces  series. There was a good deal of variations on the AVG aircraft so if you want to get accurate period photos are a must have here. Also if using the Revel P40B the wings need to be sanded down and re-scribed. The rivets and panel lines are for a E or latter model. The early P-40s were flush riveted and the panel lines were slightly different. The IP is also for an E model on this as well since the ends of the two nose 50s protruded into the cockpit. The windscreen also is not framed but the AVG did have reflector gun sights added and this looks like framing.

 

Here are some links to some pages with period pics.

http://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Hawk-81A/Hawk-81A-23FG3PS-W77-P-8173-Smith.html

http://flyingtigersus.ning.com/photo

 

 

 

 

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Saturday, January 28, 2012 7:28 PM

whoops, getting the notifications now.

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Now that I'm here, where am I??

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, January 28, 2012 8:35 PM

Big_Dog: Thanks!

I was thinking that if I go with the AVG version of picking up the Academy P-40C/Tomahawk II model which I understand is the old Hobbycraft kit. I've heard it has it own problems but it's cheaper than the Trumpeter kit and I don't have to replace a bunch of raised detail after I sand it off like the Revell kit. I'm hoping the C won't be too far off the mark if I leave off the mounts for the drop tank/bombs and putty over the holes.

I'll give the Osprey book a look, love their stuff.

Six months to go- I'll have something figured out by then Wink

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Posted by STFD637 on Sunday, January 29, 2012 2:14 PM

What the heck!!! I don't see and M/N models yet so count me in with Academy's 1/72 P-40M/N.

 

"If a lie is told often, and long enough, it becomes reality!"

Travis/STFD637

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Posted by DoogsATX on Sunday, January 29, 2012 3:25 PM

STFD637

What the heck!!! I don't see and M/N models yet so count me in with Academy's 1/72 P-40M/N.

 

Just scored Hasegawa's 1/48 P-40N on eBay (Kittyhawk IV boxing) so I may put it in play. 

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by the real red baron on Sunday, January 29, 2012 4:15 PM

Doogs -  Ive been searching for that kit Indifferent, is there another on there?

STFD637 - Welcome aboard! My Academy 1:72 P-40E comes with the optional N/M parts but there is not way to fit them? Whats the point?

 

 

 

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Sunday, January 29, 2012 4:27 PM

the real red baron

Doogs -  Ive been searching for that kit Indifferent, is there another on there?

I just saw the one...but if it's the markings with that boxing you're after (versus just any P-40N) I'd be happy to send along the decal sheet. I'm thinking of going with the Zotz markings. Maybe the NMF one...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by Ninetalis on Sunday, January 29, 2012 4:42 PM

I like P-40's,

And I have this P-40C Flying Tiger from Academy in my stash!

Only one 'problem', I allready started with it, I have build it as far as this







I still have to sand it, paint it, make the wheels, wheel wells and the landing gear, decals (offcourse), that sort of stuff.
I really would like to join in, so is that okay with you guys?

Regards Ninetalis.

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Posted by the real red baron on Sunday, January 29, 2012 4:57 PM

Ninetalis - Sure, you haven't been past the sanding. So welcome aboard!

Can you wait until June, to resume?

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Ninetalis on Sunday, January 29, 2012 5:32 PM

the real red baron

Ninetalis - Sure, you haven't been past the sanding. So welcome aboard!



Oh yey, thanks guys!

the real red baron

Can you wait until June, to resume?

No problem mate, It's been waiting here forever,
and I have a lot of unfinished planes waiting till I get hold of my decent airbrush.

So I will wait, not a problem Wink

Regards Ninetalis.

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Posted by lewbud on Sunday, January 29, 2012 8:13 PM

Put me down for something in 1/72.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by randypandy831 on Sunday, January 29, 2012 8:34 PM

hase N model is sweet. built one awhile back. im so tempted to join. raf markings are calling my name. 

tamiya 1/48 P-47D $25 + shipping

tamiya 1/48 mosquito $20+ shipping

hobby boss 1/48 F-105G. wings and fuselage cut from sprue. $40+ shipping. 

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Posted by STFD637 on Monday, January 30, 2012 3:09 PM

RRB: Yeah, I have the actual M/N kit. It comes with a choice of 2 bulkheads. The assembly seems pretty straight forward. I still haven't decided what scheme to go with, but I am leaning in the direction of a US fighter out of New Guenea. I might even make it into a vinette. I figure by June I should be caught up with the other buidls I have signed on for.

"If a lie is told often, and long enough, it becomes reality!"

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Posted by the real red baron on Monday, January 30, 2012 3:27 PM

STFD637

RRB: Yeah, I have the actual M/N kit. It comes with a choice of 2 bulkheads. The assembly seems pretty straight forward. I still haven't decided what scheme to go with, but I am leaning in the direction of a US fighter out of New Guenea. I might even make it into a vinette. I figure by June I should be caught up with the other buidls I have signed on for.

Mines the Academy E model and it comes with the bulkheads for M or N. but it's already got the E bulkheads attached in the body halves. I don't know why they included them.

Lewbud & randy pandy - welcome aboard

 

 

 

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Friday, February 3, 2012 11:31 AM

Got my Kittyhawk IV the other day. It definitely looks the sweet kit! 

I was just going to go after it as a USAAF P-40N...until I saw the second livery option in the box. RAF 112 Squadron, GA-? (yes, actually a question mark). 

The Middlestone/Dark Earth/Azure scheme is quite possibly my favorite of the war (challenged only by the blue/blue camo the 63rd(?) FS used on their P-47Ms), and yeah...excited for this one!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by the real red baron on Friday, February 3, 2012 1:41 PM

Nice doogs, I've seen the one with the ? before.

Ill be using academy's decals for the Aleutian tiger markings. I've heard bad things about academy decals though…

 

 

 

 

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Posted by MJames70 on Saturday, February 4, 2012 11:22 PM

Never participated in a group build or anything like it anywhere, but have to start some time! I see no one has volunteered one of the new Airfix 1/72 P-40s yet.....I'll go for that. Just not sure which one - the standard Flying Tiger boxing, the RAF version in the starter set, or the Pearl Harbor one in the Dogfight Doubles set....got'em all. Maybe more than one?

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Posted by the real red baron on Sunday, February 5, 2012 3:02 AM

I'm building the new tooling airfix kit myself right now. Wonderful so far… the only real seams are in the wing roots.

I'll add you to the roster for TBD, welcome aboard!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by MJames70 on Sunday, February 5, 2012 11:06 AM

Good to know about the wing seams in advance. I had a few glitches with the new 1/72 Spitfire Mk.Ia as well, but it came out alright in the end. 

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