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Posted by Nathan T on Sunday, April 13, 2014 10:46 AM

Nice saw job Mustang. What is that an oil tank or something?

 

 

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Posted by P mitch on Sunday, April 13, 2014 2:14 PM

Just to update everyone on my build I have been working on the cockpit in the last 10 days but this weekend had been taken up with the harness for the pilot by HGW Models

There are 28 pieces there and like HGW say its workable, but if anyone tries I will kill them!! I also think I may be going blind now Cool

Phil

"If anybody ever tells you anything about an aeroplane which is so bloody complicated you can't understand it, take it from me: it's all balls." R J Mitchell


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Posted by Bish on Sunday, April 13, 2014 2:26 PM

Phil, hang on. Did you say 28. I know they look good, but Holy ....

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On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by P mitch on Sunday, April 13, 2014 3:16 PM

Bish

Yep 28 I counted them after, if I'd done it before I wouldn't have started. I need to do the gunners seat next and that's weaved!!

Phil

"If anybody ever tells you anything about an aeroplane which is so bloody complicated you can't understand it, take it from me: it's all balls." R J Mitchell


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Posted by Bish on Sunday, April 13, 2014 3:21 PM

Bloody hell. I have one of those to order for my G, I hadn't realised it would be that much work.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by P mitch on Sunday, April 13, 2014 3:48 PM

Its not hard to do and it you don't want it to work you should be able to finish one in an hour or so. Getting it to work takes longer but either way your need a good magnifier, good forceps and a steady hand

The other tip is trim more then they say otherwise the straps are hard to get through the buckles

Phil  

"If anybody ever tells you anything about an aeroplane which is so bloody complicated you can't understand it, take it from me: it's all balls." R J Mitchell


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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, April 13, 2014 4:33 PM

Joe: That's some great looking stuff!

Phil: Those belts look fantastic!

Bish: I love HGW belts. They look very complex, but really aren't that hard to build. I have much less trouble assembling those tiny straps and buckles than trying to get PE belts to look acceptable. I can assemble one of their USAAF sets without using a magnifier in half the time it takes me to get one of Eduard's PE sets attached to a seat properly...

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, April 13, 2014 6:37 PM

I will defiantly not be put off Phil. I already have one set for a 190D. To be honest, I can't see the point of having them workable, its not as if they are going to be played with, not if anyone values there hands anyway.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Rigidrider on Sunday, April 13, 2014 8:18 PM

Alright friends, I finally got some pictures uploaded... not alot done this weekend but atleast I got to start...

Heres the kit... mostly OOB with an Eduard cockpit PE kit.

I guess I just cant see well enough to do detail by myself and a brush anymore, LOL...

I still need to make a gun folcrum for the gunner, I hate it when the gun is left hanging in the window. A few left over parts and some plastistruct will do just fine.

Well thats about all for now... More I hope later this week.Take care all...

Doug 

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Posted by mustang1989 on Sunday, April 13, 2014 9:07 PM

Dude that IP looks friggin' SWELL! Not that the rest doesn't but you sure know how to make an IP shine with detail!!!

                   

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Monday, April 14, 2014 2:32 AM

Phil, I understand very well what you mean re the harness. I did an etched harness for a big FW 190 and it was a job that nigh burned me out for a bit. Magnifying specs are an absolute necessity...

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Posted by Bish on Monday, April 14, 2014 2:35 AM

Doug, great start.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, April 14, 2014 4:13 AM

Looking very nice indeed, Doug!

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Posted by Rigidrider on Monday, April 14, 2014 4:32 AM

Thanks Guys...So far not a bad kit, not sure who did this moulding for Monogram, but it looks and fits very well.

And Phil... Man, Those belts and harnesses... WOW!

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Posted by snapdragonxxx on Monday, April 14, 2014 2:16 PM

Here we go with an update.

I have progressed quickly. I want this build out of my way now. It seems to me that Trumpeter didn't do much research on this at all, and it probably reflects down the entire 1/32 stuka line that they will produce. I think they looked at other kits on the market and copied elements. I am not saying that this is a shoddy kit, far from it as some of the detail is very well done and crafted. I just think that this was a Friday afternoon project. Some of the fitting of the parts is not too well engineered compared to previous and recent offerings and I don't think that their top designers were on this project. I know that they have a 1/24 stuka due at some point, and I may get it but it depends on if they spend more time getting it correct. I will miss on the rest of the 1/32 stukas from Trumpeter.

The way they have designed the wings is really good and reflects on how the original aircrafts structure was in reguard to the sing shape but putting the elements together showed up gaps along the fitting joints that need thin styrene strips to fill in.

To give an overall impression of the size The paper sheets are A3.

The engine is only painted where it could be seen. as it is hidden behind the cowling I didn't see the point in spending time and paint on something that is not going to be seen. there are also fit issues with the cowling as well as the wings.

As I am on the verge of painting this I have decided not to get the airbrush out, but to just use my normal paint brushes. If I had to write a report for trumpeter on this I would point out the following

Incorrect armament for variant.

Incorrect cowling and fit issues

Incorrect wheel spats

Fit issues with wings

Incorrect fuselage bomb release

Incorrect upper wing national insignia decals

Incorrect lower wing national insignia decals and placement

Nicely detailed engine

Nicely detailed cockpit

nice undercarriage detailing (hidden inside spats)

Dive brakes too far out from wings (mounts should be not as deep)

Wing control attatchments too small (they don't fit into the holes for them)

Trumpeter - you can do much better than this - and you have done!!!

I am glad that I didn't buy any aftermarket parts for this, because to make it a good model you would have to spend at least 4 times what the kit costs!

 

James

 

 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, April 14, 2014 2:25 PM

O, seems there more wrong with this than I had expected, getting pretty glad I haven't got this. O dear. But you are defiantly making nice progress, and I bet even with al the problems, its going to be a cracking build.

What the error in the armaments, is it the wing guns or rear gun.

I believe their 24th kit is a D, we shall wait with baited breath.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, April 14, 2014 3:16 PM

James: You are doing a great job on your Stuka despite all the issues with the kit.

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Posted by snapdragonxxx on Monday, April 14, 2014 4:26 PM

The entire of the exterior armaments sprue is incorrect apart from 2 SC50 bombs.

The rest of the exterior armament sprues are for the D onwards variant

 

Even the exterior mounts are for the D onwards variant.

The Machine guns in the wings are not complete with just muzzles in glue on ports (I will photograph those and post them tomorrow), with the breech in a compartment that fits in the wing.

I will admit that the canopy sections are crystal clear and you can see the entire cockpit with the canopy fully closed up.

Overall it is not a bad build at all, it just has more hiccups than I am used to from Trumpeter. Look at their stunning ME-262's!

I suppose that I have been spoiled with ZM's kits.

I will say though, for those who wish to get this kit and then spend money and throw all the AM parts from Eduard, get the nose and spat correction set, different decals. (looking at the National insignia they could be for a D variant) replace the wing MG's and do a little  mod on the wings where the barrel would go through etc, etc I would say that a stunning B2 Variant could be built, but with lots of stuff coming onto the market I want later this year I am unwilling to spend lots of money, so this will be just an OOB build.

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, April 14, 2014 4:49 PM

Regarding all that AM stuff: That's exactly what I'm planning to do with my kit:

  • Correction set for the nose and spats
  • Eagle Cals decals for a B-2 in winter camo
  • Eduard Brassin bombs
  • Master gun barrels
  • Some eduard PE bits that should be left over from the Big-Ed set I have for Hasegawa's G-2 (I have a resin cockpit for that one)

I got the kit at a local model show for 40€ instead of the 70-80€ retail price, so the correction set is affordable for the money I saved on the kit itself. That's actually the only reason I bought it. All the other stuff (except the bombs) is my usual treatment for 1/32 kits...

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Posted by mikeymize on Monday, April 14, 2014 8:16 PM

James, great info. I have yet to build anything as large as that but personally I'll steer clear of that one. I understand that one can get AM stuff and/or fabricate as required but it truly bugs me when I spend what some models cost and have to fill gaps and realign things. I have neither the time nor inclination to scratch build that much when it's just the result of poor engineering. Sorry for going off on a rant but.........

"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time".


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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, April 14, 2014 8:34 PM

All kits have their quirks. Some have extensive work to pull a good build off, some have no detail, some are over engineered and some are perfect to build with good detail but have noticeable inaccuracies. Alot of folks can overlook any of these and some choose to punch through and fix the "quirks". Either way its all modeling my brutha! Wink

                   

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Posted by Rigidrider on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 10:59 AM

You got that right my friend!

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Posted by mikeymize on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 5:28 PM

A couple pics of my project. As I mentioned in another post, there was a pretty bad gap along the trailing edge of the wing just forward of the flaperons as well as wing to fuselage join.The pictures speak for themselves; they're definitely ugly and in need of help.Cleanup with denatured alcohol and then the sanding fun starts!

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Posted by mustang1989 on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 6:32 PM

Dude! You're moving right along with this one!! Can't wait to see more progress MM!!

                   

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 6:43 PM

Looks like you have got to grips with that gap. Certainly coming along quickly. I hate the sanding bit, good luck with that.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Nathan T on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 11:41 PM

Wow, thats a fair amount of putty. I'm gonna have those same issues on my wing trailing edges too. Good work so far Mikey.

 

 

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Posted by mikeymize on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:34 PM

Yes it is Nathan and I dread having to get it smooth enough for paint but it's all part of the build. I found the pics I think you had before and am going with the red tipped machine. It shows it bombed up on the wings but I also saw it with tanks listed as an R model. That's conflicting with what I had previously thought and saw on the instructions along with the wide yellow band which I really dislike. I want to include fuel tanks as opposed to bombs so may take artistic license given the pics I've seen.

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:46 PM

mikey, if you have seen the same aircraft with drop tanks, then it is indeed an R. There's no way to tell and R from a B when its carrying bombs and I would wager many aircraft labelled as B's may well be R's. So I wouldn't worry to much.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:56 PM

I wouldn't worry about it either mikey. A person can run themselves ragged over the "correct" details I have found. Your scheme looks killer BTW.

                   

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Posted by Reasoned on Thursday, April 17, 2014 2:31 PM

Oh, okay Bish, put me down for the Revellogram Ju 87D.  Always wanted to build the Stuka.

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