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Pearl Harbor 2014.....Thank You

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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, April 24, 2014 9:11 AM

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fightnjoe -- 1/72 academy b-17c/d

lewbud -- 1/72 airfix p-40 (maybe a zeke)

taxtp -- maybe

silentbob -- 1/48 tamiya a6m2 

jibber -- maybe

stfd637 -- 1/72 cyberhobby val

               1/72 hasegawa zero

ajd3530 -- hobbycraft p-36c  (maybe something else also)

ww2psycho -- hase zeke

Tal Afar Dave -- Airfix Zero and/or Val

lawdog114 -- P-40 B/C

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Posted by Eagle90 on Thursday, April 24, 2014 9:41 AM

Hey Joe,

You know, I'm involved in 12 GB's now, but this one really popped out to me.  What subjects are you going to have in the GB?  Just might have to do this GB.  

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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, April 24, 2014 12:28 PM

eagle although i will be posting the particulars soon the main idea is anything in hawaii dec 7 1941.  all military and civillian, all subjects, everything.  i also include all ships of the japanese first combined fleet and the uss enterprise.  the big part is whatever you choose has to be from that day in hawaii.

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Posted by Eagle90 on Thursday, April 24, 2014 1:02 PM

A very interesting GB for sure Joe!  

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Posted by fightnjoe on Monday, April 28, 2014 8:54 AM

eagle i hope so.  

going to let this run to see how many chime in.

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, April 28, 2014 12:24 PM

Seeing how you seem to run this Pearl Harbor themed GB every year, why not just make it a long term running GB with no end date? Personally I would love to join this, but like Eagle, my plate is full for pretty much the rest of this year.

 

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Posted by fightnjoe on Monday, May 5, 2014 8:57 AM

eagle, stick, thought about this long and hard.  i would love every one of my group build proposals to be the next hugely successful group build.  sometimes for reasons as you state, they just dont achieve flight.  i can appreciate the full slate you have, i have been kinda following some of the proposals and builds myself.  mine may be poor timing as far as the number that are out there.  i do really appreciate your interest as that is one of the main goals for me each year.  to gather interest and provoke thought to remember the attack.  if this one flies or dies so be it.  it would not be the first time i had a group build idea that i turned out to be the group.  

however for me it is important to have that end date.  it is more to remember the reason for the build.  i will keep this alive and see where it goes.

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, May 5, 2014 11:58 AM

I understand completely. It is such a special date in American history and deserves such commemoration.

 

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Posted by lewbud on Tuesday, May 6, 2014 10:53 PM

I'm in.  Perhaps this will be the year I actually finish something for this build.

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Posted by taxtp on Friday, May 9, 2014 5:16 AM

I'm interested again Joe, but not too sure if I can commit just yet. In fact, I've already bought a kit in anticipation of this GB.

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Posted by silentbob33 on Friday, May 9, 2014 8:07 AM

I'd be in if you are allowing crossovers.  I have a A6M2 Zero I'll be doing in Pearl Harbor markings for the Japanese GB that's going on.

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Posted by Hoggarth on Friday, May 16, 2014 1:48 PM

I would love to join in on this GB Joe. I look forward to more details.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, May 22, 2014 9:11 AM

thank you all for the interest.  

i havent forgotten about this, just trying to focus a bit to complete my current project in time to begin this.  i will have the proper information up soon and will begin a list for entries.  

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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, May 22, 2014 9:12 AM

oh.........forgot.............

crossovers are more than welcome.  as long as they fall in the timeline and the subject i have no issue and welcome them.

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Posted by jibber on Thursday, May 22, 2014 8:28 PM

Joe I especially love your theme, I have a few going but I'd really like to sign up. I'll have to decide on something.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, May 24, 2014 6:32 PM

entry list is started.

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Posted by silentbob33 on Saturday, May 24, 2014 8:13 PM

If you wanted the full info for my kit it's the 1/48 Tamiya A6M2

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, May 24, 2014 9:08 PM

thanks sb.  list is updated.  

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, June 7, 2014 8:36 PM

just a bump.

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Posted by STFD637 on Sunday, June 8, 2014 9:26 AM

well its been a long time since I have done a GB, but I have been wanting to finish my Pearl Harbor Japanese Attack force for a while. So why not? I will join in with a Airfix 1/72 Val and a Hasegawa 1/72 Zero. The start date works good so I ca finish the kit I am working on!

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, June 14, 2014 12:28 PM

travis sorry about such a late reply.  you are added.  i look forward to building with you.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, June 21, 2014 9:44 AM

got to say i am really looking forward to this.  only the second time i have attempted a b-17c/d.  the first was a vacuform conversion for the 1/48 -g model.  

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Posted by lewbud on Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:12 AM
Joe, Put me down for the Airfix 1/72 P-40. Perhaps the Zero as well.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Monday, June 23, 2014 9:09 PM

gotcha (finally) buddy.

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Posted by STFD637 on Monday, June 30, 2014 4:14 PM

Hey Joe,

Just a quick update I am going to be doing the Cyber Hobby Val now in 1/72. I have been eyeballing it for a while and got a great deal on Evilbay! It will be here on the 5th!!! I amy still do the Airfix kit as well not a 100% sure though!.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Monday, June 30, 2014 11:05 PM

and adjusted.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Monday, July 14, 2014 8:59 AM

just under two weeks from the start date.  

two weeks.

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Posted by ajd3530 on Sunday, July 20, 2014 11:51 PM

Hey joe, mark me down, tentatively with a Hobbycraft P-36C.. Although I might just get wild and do something Jap instead.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Wednesday, July 23, 2014 9:38 AM

updated.  welcome to the build.

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Posted by ww2psycho on Wednesday, July 23, 2014 9:37 PM

I have a Hasegawa Zero im doing in pearl harbor markings but the cockpit has been started, would this be ok?

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Posted by fightnjoe on Wednesday, July 23, 2014 9:48 PM

you have the green light.  

folks we are but three days away from the "official" begin date.  if you so choose you have the green light to begin.  

i look forward to viewing your works.

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Posted by ajd3530 on Wednesday, July 23, 2014 10:04 PM

Ww2psycho, so good to see you back on!! I look foward to seeing your work again.

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Posted by ww2psycho on Wednesday, July 23, 2014 10:10 PM

Thanks, we since my work went to 12 hour shifts i've more or less just been browsing the forum and seeing what other people do. Its hard to get motivation to build with hours like this, at least for me anyway.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, July 26, 2014 9:49 AM

well folks, as of about 8 hours ago, we have begun.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, July 26, 2014 10:09 AM

well let me kick off the "build" portion of this thread with a picture of the box art.

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i will be doing one of the birds from the 38th recon that were inbound during the attack. more on this later.


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Posted by silentbob33 on Saturday, July 26, 2014 7:35 PM

I'll be starting mine in the next couple of days, I just have to finish up my HMMWV first.

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Posted by pyrman64 on Saturday, July 26, 2014 10:16 PM
fightnjoe
-subjects include naval, air, army (armor, arty, and soft skinned), civilian, marine, and coast guard.
What armor and artillery was on Oahu?

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, July 26, 2014 10:18 PM

greg there was a company of "stuart" tanks on oahu as well as several mortar batteries and a "disappearing" gun battery.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, July 26, 2014 10:19 PM

silent bob no problem.  wanted to actually start mine today and had a setback.  hopefully tomorow.

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Posted by pyrman64 on Saturday, July 26, 2014 10:26 PM

Was it an Army or Marine tank co? Do you know the specific unit? Which type of M3 Stuart?

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Posted by fightnjoe on Sunday, July 27, 2014 7:44 AM

i have it somewhere.  but it was the honey stuart.  the company was the 11 th tank.

this is the only picture i have of armor from either dec 7 or dec 8.

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Posted by pyrman64 on Monday, July 28, 2014 8:34 AM

Joe: great pic! Now if I can locate the Academy kit I have.....

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Posted by fightnjoe on Monday, July 28, 2014 10:37 AM

Greg somewhere on the net they have some very interesting pictures of both the mortar emplacements and the disappearing gun as well.  the gun was one of two in the us arsenal at the time.  i believe it is now a display piece near Seattle.   the second of the guns was in the Philippines.   there were, if memory serves, seven mortar emplacements around Oahu.  there were two of them at the entrance to the harbor.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Tuesday, July 29, 2014 11:29 PM

Well folks to prove that I am actually working on this.

The instructions call for the cockpit construction first. So that is where I start.

There is some decent detail in this kit.



First thing to notice was the god awful machine marks. They are everywhere. So first out came the putty.




You will notice that I began the painting process by starting on the floor forward of the Instrument Panel bulkhead. I started with Testors little square bottle of Light Tan. When that was tacky I then went over it again only this time trying to leave brush strokes. After that dried I then used Burnt Umber Oil Paint to give it the grain look. Did not turn out quite as I hoped on the floor but wow it sure did on the table. I then brush painted Model Master Euro Green on the parts that required it. I am told this is pretty close to what was actually used in the Fortress. While that dried I started on the other pieces that would make up the cockpit. The seat cushions were first painted Model Master Dark Yellow, in part as my yellow selection is very scarce at this moment. I then painted some of the bits and bobs the same Euro Green as seen in some of my reference pictures. As one set dried I moved to the next. On the whole they came out like this...









And that is where we are tonight. The seats and control stick are not finished. Note also the cockpit floor and the bulkheads received a oil wash to try to bring out a little of the detail.

Next session will be to finish the detail painting and start to put this all together. There will not be much time or effort put into the interior as in this scale not much will be seen. I will not even be installing anything past that rear cockpit bulkhead. 

All comments, critiques, and criticism are encouraged.



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Posted by silentbob33 on Friday, August 1, 2014 11:46 AM

I've started on my Zero.  So far I've painted the engine and assembled the cockpit.  I'm a little disappointed that the instrument panel is just a decal on a flat surface, but it actually doesn't look too bad.

Here's the box art:

The engine:

The cockpit assembly:

And all put together:

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Posted by fightnjoe on Monday, August 4, 2014 10:44 AM

Well shoot.  I thought I had responded to this.  

Looking good for sure.  I am of the same opinion with the decal on the flat surface for the ip.  That part drives me a bit nuts.  Have the same for the fort.  Now considering it is 1/72 and it will not be seen I can deal with but it is one of those things that drives me up the wall.

Now for those with the notion to do so, no badge has been submitted for this build.  I am going to save myself the embarrassment and leave the construction of said badge for another.  

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Posted by silentbob33 on Monday, August 4, 2014 8:20 PM

I'll throw in my two cents with a couple of badges I just put together.  My first time making a badge, hopefully they're not too bad.

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Posted by STFD637 on Tuesday, August 5, 2014 1:26 PM

Here are some WIP for my Zero! I have added a Eduard PE set. Lets just say it is a lot of start and stop so I don't burn my eyes out. This kit has been in the stash for some time (probably from my fear of using PE!!!) I wanted to show the Prepaint pics to give an idea of just how many little bits there are! The Hasegawa kit was pretty bear on detail. The PE set really helped. I have a Squadron Canopy to cap it off when it is all done!

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Posted by ww2psycho on Tuesday, August 5, 2014 3:34 PM

I finished the cockpit, got so excited that I forgot to take pictures before closing it up. I'll see what I can do tonight to get some pictures of it.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Tuesday, August 5, 2014 8:13 PM

Travis that is looking sharp.  

Psycho no problem.  I have done that many times.

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Posted by ww2psycho on Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:02 PM

Well my bad luck turns into your luck,  dog jumped on the bed and broke the cockpit open. No damage just needs to be glued back together. But I did get pictures this time.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Wednesday, August 6, 2014 11:51 PM

Many thanks for tagging along.

Well here we go again.

Here is a brief update to show where I am with this. 

First up is the cockpit. It is together and ready for installation.






Next is to show off something I am pretty proud of. Because of the many pieces of clear that are in the fuselage I had planned to paint the body prior to installing the clear. 

There were several steps here. First is the primer coat. For this I used Rust-Oleum Flat Black. After this dried overnight I then used Model Master Olive Drab (Not handy so I can not tell you which one) and sprayed very cautiously, avoiding the panel lines. This part of the process took approximately two hours. Like I said I was being very careful. After this dried I then added Rust-Oleum Flat White to lighten the paint. I then concentrated on the panel centers. I wanted to get a definite different shade. 







I am very happy with the way this turned out. However my plan has a serious flaw. I cannot spray a flat coat over the fuselage without masking off the clear parts. I will have to think on this. I may have to see about finding a liquid masking agent as some of these clear parts may pop off with traditional tape/foil masking.


But there she is so far. Hopefully there will not be major seams to deal with.


All comments, critiques, and criticism are encouraged.


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Posted by silentbob33 on Thursday, August 7, 2014 6:51 AM

That paint job looks great!

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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:10 AM

Many thanks.

Please take a look at the badges that have been presented.  I believe that either will work.

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Posted by silentbob33 on Thursday, August 7, 2014 4:36 PM

Travis, I thought I posted about your cockpit, but I don't see it anywhere.  That's looking fantastic.  Hard to believe it's 1/72!

I finished the major assemblies, primed, and preshaded.  I was also able to paint the engine cowling.  The flash on my phone makes it look more gray than black.  I also added a touch of blue to the black.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, August 7, 2014 4:45 PM

Nice.

Looks very good to me.

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Posted by silentbob33 on Friday, August 8, 2014 6:04 PM

Well, she's painted.  My first time airbrushing Tamiya acrylics and I like it.  Certainly a better smell than enamels.  The paint looks a little too green to me, but it says it's Japanese Navy Gray on the bottle.  But then again, this is my first Japanese plane so I could be wrong.  Unfortunately, I can see where I made some mistakes scribing panel lines.  For some reason this kit had both raised and recessed panels.  The raised lines were lost when I primed it so I figured I would try to scribe them myself.  I probably should have practiced on some scrap first.  Luckily, most of my mistakes will be covered by decals.  Oh well, I'll chalk it up to a learning experience.  I'll use this as a practice kit so I know what I'm doing when I get my hands on a more detailed kit Wink.

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Friday, August 8, 2014 9:29 PM

Thought I'd look in on this year's build.  Last year I did USS New Orleans, but I didn't have anything at hand this year.

Nice looking progress on the Fortress, Joe.  Since I'm a fan of the B-17, I've also built this kit.  It is a good kit, and yours is looking great!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Friday, August 8, 2014 9:34 PM

Nice-looking cockpits, bob and Travis.  What's the interior color for a Zero?  I've never built one.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Friday, August 8, 2014 9:37 PM

The cockpit and exterior paint came out very well, Joe.  Looks good.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by silentbob33 on Friday, August 8, 2014 10:35 PM

checkmateking02

Nice-looking cockpits, bob and Travis.  What's the interior color for a Zero?  I've never built one.

I used zinc chromate green.  Based on all the pictures I saw I couldn't see much of a difference so it's good enough for me.

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Saturday, August 9, 2014 9:38 AM

Thanks, Bob.  That's good to know.  It should look spectacular when you add the red meatballs to the gray paint scheme.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by STFD637 on Tuesday, August 12, 2014 1:27 PM

I use Tamiya IJN Cockpit green. Pretty accurate. Since Gunze Sangyo is so hard to come by Tamiya is prettty good.

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Posted by silentbob33 on Tuesday, August 12, 2014 3:57 PM

The color of the plane just didn't look right to me so I sprayed light gray over it until it did.  I put decals on today.  It always makes me nervous when I put Micro Sol on.  I'm going out of town for the next couple of days, I'll post some pics when I get back.

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Tuesday, August 12, 2014 4:55 PM

I know what you mean about MicroSol, Bob.  It's got to the point where I only put it on sparingly with a 10 0 paint brush.  A little of that stuff goes a long way.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by fightnjoe on Tuesday, August 12, 2014 10:47 PM

Well one step forward and then ten steps backward.

The step forward:
The wings are installed, the fuselage is together, some of the clear parts are installed. 

The ten steps the other direction:
The seams are horrible, I will need to respray 90% of the entire build. Oh well.

So with that said, pictures.








So with all that let me say, I am pretty happy with the progress so far. The steps backward were of my own making. I used stretched sprue when getting the wings aligned. This allowed me to get the angle close (I think) and also gave me a start on filling the horrible gaps that were a product of fixing the angle. 

Thanks you for taking a look. All comments, critiques, and criticism are encouraged.



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Posted by ajd3530 on Tuesday, August 12, 2014 11:47 PM

Ok guys this brings up sonething I have been wondering for a while. When 99% of us build single engine fighters, we usually construct the entire airframe, work out the seems, and then paint. But I've noticed that with most of the large multi-engine bombers built on here, the everything is painted seperate, then put together. I don't understand, it just seems kind of redundant, having to repaint after working out the seems.

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Posted by ajd3530 on Tuesday, August 12, 2014 11:50 PM

And joe, that is NOT a knock on your methods!!! Its just something I've wondered for a while cause it seems everybody works that way. Which means there is probably a very practical reason for doing it, and I just haven't figured it out yet.

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Posted by silentbob33 on Thursday, August 14, 2014 8:24 PM

Sorry to hear that Joe, at least you noticed it now when you can do something about it.  I took a look at my Zero tonight and I noticed a huge mistake on my part.  I forgot to sand the panel lines I scribed, so my decals look horrible sitting on those lines.  I could strip the decals off, sand the lines down and repaint.  The downside to that is I won't have markings for a Pearl Harbor Zero.  I'd also have to make masks to paint the national insignia.  I did make a couple of black and white copies of my decal sheet so I could scan it, edit it some colors and try to print more decals.  Or, I could just carry on and leave this as a learning experience.  I'll have to think about what I want to do.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Friday, August 15, 2014 12:02 AM

Let me say that the experiment had mixed results.  I love the look.  I do not like the clean up of the seams after.  

Ok, this will be a two part update.

First will be the initial stage of painting of the fuselage. Setting the stage. The build was primed with Rust-Oleum Flat Black, I then thinned Model Master Olive Drab. I then sprayed the paint on the model, being careful to avoid as many panel lines as I could. This process was a bit time consuming.






Second stage is a mixture of the Model Master Olive Drab and Rust-Oleum Flat White in approximately a 50/50 mix. I sprayed this concentrating on the center of the panels. I also kept my focus on the upper sections of the fuselage and the wings.







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Posted by fightnjoe on Friday, August 15, 2014 12:03 AM

Part two.

For the third stage of the painting I mixed in more of the Model Master Olive Drab in approximately a 50/50 mix and then thinned to the consistency of fat free milk. I then sprayed a misting over the entire upper surface, I was being very careful to not spray too heavy. I did however make a mistake as I finished with some pebbly surfaces. I then used a very fine sandpaper to beat down the pebbles and then sprayed to fix any blemishes caused by the sanding.

The result.







And there you have it. 

Next up for me on this will be to spray a gloss on the fuselage to prep for decals. 


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Posted by fightnjoe on Friday, August 15, 2014 12:06 AM

AJD I wanted to give this a shot.   Like I said, mixed results.  It definitely has a place in the tool box but I am not sure I will go this route again.

Silentbob use it as a learning experience.  You never know it just might turn out ok.

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Posted by ww2psycho on Friday, August 15, 2014 3:32 PM

To prove I'm actually doing something, where is everything I have done so far.

This was my first time trying preshading. Not sure if I should go over it some more with the base coat or not, I remember people saying that the aircraft are Pearl Harbor were new so they wouldn't have too much weathering to them.

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Posted by ww2psycho on Friday, August 15, 2014 3:35 PM

Some showed up as images the others didn't I don't know why, I used the same link on all of them.

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Posted by silentbob33 on Friday, August 15, 2014 5:14 PM

Thanks Joe, that's what I'm going to do.  Your B-17 is looking great so far.  ww2psycho your cockpit looks amazing!  What scale is it?  I put another layer of MicroSol on the decals before going to bed last night, thinking that might help.  When I looked this morning the decals weren't perfect, but they looked good enough.  So I'll keep on trucking where I am right now.  Here's a pic with the decals on.  

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Posted by ww2psycho on Friday, August 15, 2014 6:29 PM

It's the Hasegawa 1:48 kit. I used Eduard PE seat belts but other than that everything came with the kit. The IP was 5 different decals I believe.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Friday, August 15, 2014 11:32 PM

Silentbob that looks awesome to me.  Love the way the preshade turned out.

ww2psycho your pit looks incredible.  Very crisp and clean.  Very nice.

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Posted by silentbob33 on Saturday, August 16, 2014 8:51 PM

Thanks Joe.  I have the house to myself this weekend so I'm hoping to finish the Zero soon.  I'm working on getting the landing gear assembly together and painted the aotake in the gearbays and for the struts. 

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Posted by silentbob33 on Sunday, August 17, 2014 3:15 PM

Well, I'm done!  The markings are for Lieutenant Commander Shigeru Itaya, leader of the fighters of the carrier Akagi during the attack on Pearl Harbor.  I read somewhere that the planes that were used in the attack were new, so I didn't weather it too much.  Thanks for hosting Joe!

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Posted by pyrman64 on Sunday, August 17, 2014 9:02 PM

Nice job on the Zero, SB!

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Posted by silentbob33 on Sunday, August 17, 2014 9:55 PM

Thanks!

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Posted by fightnjoe on Monday, August 18, 2014 8:32 AM

The Zeke looks very good.  Nicely done.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:09 AM

Update:

Decals are on and she is ready for some subtle weathering.








And the way the engines look right now.




Next up will be oils. 


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Posted by silentbob33 on Wednesday, August 20, 2014 7:17 AM

Looking good Joe!

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Posted by fightnjoe on Sunday, August 24, 2014 7:28 AM

Silentbob many thanks.  Last of the summer commitments is done as of today and that means I can get back to this.

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Posted by STFD637 on Monday, August 25, 2014 6:41 PM
Joe that b-17 looks great! I love the shading. Bob very nice zero! I must confess the coloring for the zero is difficult. My decal source shows a color closer to the original color you had. I have to do some research but I wouldn't be surprised of the IJN used different greys for there a/c. Pretty much like the Luftwaffe colors that are so hard to match.

On another note. I have been working a lot with only short trips to the bench when I can sneak it in. The open cowling on my zero has been giving me fits, but I think I got it. Hope to post some pics later this week. Happy building.

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Posted by ww2psycho on Thursday, August 28, 2014 5:37 PM

I decided to do some more of the base coat, it looks too dirty for a Zero from Pearl. I added a few drops of white do try that scale color effect. It does lighten it up quite a bit and looks more grey white than a green grey. I'm going to paint the blue stripe on the back instead of using the decals. I'll try to get up what I have done tomorrow morning.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, August 28, 2014 8:35 PM

Well the end is near for this one. 

This update is for the little fiddly bits that needed to be installed and painted prior to a final flat coat. It will also show the subtle weathering and staining on the aircraft. 










So there we are. Almost. Almost done. 

All that is left is the wheels and a flat coat to seal it all in. 


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Posted by silentbob33 on Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:13 PM

Looks good Joe!  I really like your paint fading and weathering

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Posted by STFD637 on Friday, August 29, 2014 12:20 PM

Well here are some update pics. Finally got the cowling issue fixed. Had to take the pics with the old iPhone so sorry for the fuzziness.

Bob and Joe. Your builds are look great!

 

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, August 30, 2014 10:16 AM

Many thanks for the kind words.

Travis you are moving right along.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, August 30, 2014 1:49 PM

And she is finished. 

Some stuff at the end was not pleasing. You will see it in the pictures. 

But in the end.

The aircraft
B-17C/40-2049 

Landed at Bellows Field where she was determined to be repairable but she was later used for spare parts and not repaired.

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1st Lt. Robert H. Richards, 2D Lt. Leonard S. Humiston, Avn Cdt William F. B. Morris, Avn Cdt George E. Gammans, SSgt Joseph S. Angelini, SSgt Erwin B. Casebolt, SSgt Melvin D. Zajic, SSgt Lawrence B Velarde, and Pvt Vernon D. Tomlinson.

And the pictures.













Thank you for tagging along. I appreciate the very kind words.

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Posted by ww2psycho on Monday, September 8, 2014 1:28 PM

Here's where I'm at. None of this is a decal yet. I have put them on since taking these but the canopy paint came off when I took the masks off so it will have to be redone. not much I can do until I get new masks.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Wednesday, September 10, 2014 7:29 AM

That looks awesome.  Really nice work.

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Posted by Tal Afar Dave on Saturday, September 13, 2014 9:07 PM

Hey Joe,  are you still signing up recruits for this Pearl Harbor GB??  If so, I'd like to join up with the 1/72nd scale Airfix Zero and/or Val.  Both actually come with markings for Pearl Harbor attackers.  Most likely, they will be OOB.  I've been away for so long, I need to start back in with a basic build or two.  This will be a crossover project from the Pacific Carrier GB.  What do you think??

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, September 13, 2014 9:52 PM

And you are in.  

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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, September 13, 2014 10:07 PM

Hey Joe, I'm about to splice the Academy and Monogram P-40B/C into a Pearl Harbor version, perhaps Welch's mount.  Can I join in?

 

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, September 13, 2014 10:25 PM

You are in as well.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Wednesday, September 17, 2014 11:14 PM

Hello all.  I just got caught up on the work in here...its spectacular.  I'm ready to jump in.  I intent to build one of the two P-40's that got airborne at Pearl Harbor and scored kills on the morning of December 7th 1941.

In my opinion the 1/48 P-40 B/C, the Tomahawk Model 81, is without a doubt the most under-represented subject in 1/48 scale, perhaps in any scale.  How could such an important plane go so unrecognized?  Let's see, the Monogram kit has been around since the Beatles invasion and the Hobbycraft (now Academy) version is rather "basic" and has glaring detail and inaccuracy issues.  I built the Trumpeter kit recently and it was mediocre at best, with a crumby cockpit and mad rivets, more like potholes, everywhere.  There's other stuff but they escape me at the moment.  

It is generally accepted that the Monogram P-40 is the most "accurate" in outline.  The Hobbycraft has recessed panel lines and is easier to build.  Armed with this logic, I decided to try to create reasonably accurate P-40 B by splicing the two. 

The most noticeable problem with the Academy kit is the belly, which is too flat and is more appropriate for later P-40 variants (Monogram in olive drab plastic).

To improve this area, I then endeavored to "graft" the Monogram belly onto the Academy kit.  This would have been a piece of cake if I were to procure a Dremel tool, but I still I tend gravitate towards the hard way to do things....some day I'll learn.  I first chopped off the belly of the Monogram kit with a #11 Exacto.  It was easy because the Monogram plastic is soft and flimsy.  I used the same blade and carved out a section of the Academy belly.  I also thinned out the inside of the Monogram belly so it would be easier to manipulate into place.

Here you can see how it should look...huge difference.

Some super glue, trimming and hefty sanding was in order, but I eventually got to this point.  Some putty was needed as well

A quick test fit revealed more sanding and forming was needed but we're getting there.....More putty too...

Once I thought it looked about right, I hit the area with primer to reveal any areas that needed more attention.  I think this looks about right.  Its not perfect but it will pass. 

As I said before, the kit has other issues, such as a too narrow wing root fillets and inaccurate tail planes, but I can live with these.  The belly modification should go a long way in improving things.  I also hit up Sprue Brothers for a True Details cockpit and Eduard flaps which should further enhance the kit. 

More to come soon.    

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Posted by silentbob33 on Thursday, September 18, 2014 9:21 AM

Cool work so far Joe.  I've always been afraid of splicing kits together like that, just not enough confidence in my abilities yet.  I'm looking forward to seeing this come together.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, September 18, 2014 9:56 AM

Joe,

Are you planning on doing another for 2015? I have some stuff I could do but it's too late for this year and I have too many irons in the fire already.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Friday, September 19, 2014 6:13 PM

Joe beautiful work so far.  Looks fantastic.

ModelCrazy provided I am allowed to stay on this site and provided others will want to join in, yes I will host this again next year.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Monday, September 22, 2014 9:09 PM

Thanks Bob and Joe.  I need a project once in a while to keep me honestBig Smile.   With all this talk about Dremel tools, fate would have me in the tool isle at Wal-Mart this weekend. Knowing I would be doing much more sanding in this project.  I broke down and bought one. 

It was $40.00  well spent.  Since I would be adding a True Details pit, the kit side wall detail needed to be removed.  On the "Low" setting, with a sanding drum bit, this took maybe minute.  I experienced no melting of the plastic.  The trick is to use light pressure and keep the tool moving.  I also cut out the closed radiator flaps with the cutting bit.  It was a piece of cake.  I can't believe I waiting this long to buy one. 

I turned my attention to the TD pit.  It's and ex- KMC mold that was supposed to be designed for this kit. Its beautifully detailed and relatively cheap, but the instructions are horrible.    The hardest  part was removing the resin block from the floor.  I started with a razor saw (to keep the unhealthy resin dust down) but this was taking forever and the piece kept slipping out of my hand. I eventually whipped out the Dremel and sliced it off. 

I then started working on the pit.  I concocted my own Curtiss Bronze Green with one part XF-81 RAF Green, one part XF-5 Flat Green, and two parts XF-8 Flat Blue.  If you would like to see how do my cockpits, see the tutorial in my Dauntless build here:

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I'm not crazy about the TD instrument panel.  The dials are too deep and impossible to drybrush.  I decided to add 5 minute clear epoxy to simulate glass dials. I may paint up the kit part and compare the two.  I just didn't feel like buying a PE set along with a resin pit, nor should one have to. 

Hope to get this installed soon..

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Posted by silentbob33 on Monday, September 22, 2014 9:20 PM

Great work Joe! I agree, those dials do look a bit deep to me too.  And Dremels are the way to go!

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, September 26, 2014 9:00 PM

Thanks folks.  I spent last night putting it all together, to include installing the Eduard flaps.  All I can say is the Academcraft P-40B is an absolute pig and I now yearn for the Trumpeter version.  Now I know why I only paid 11 bones for it.  For starters, The panel lines are soft and I dont even know if they will hold a wash later. Perhaps the mold is too old.  Also, the Monogram kit has more surface detail and its 50 years old.  I even had to scribe panel lines into the horzontal stabilizers which they forgot Huh?.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't there be some ammo doors and such on the top of wings? 

I started my session by carving up the flap area thinning things out with the Dremel.  This made the PE wing detail sit better.  This was a nice set and should improve the area considerably, like putting lipstick on a pig.

I installed the pit, sealed up the fuselage then added the wings. At least the fit of everything was fairly painless, even with the flap detail.  I needed a smidge of putty on the port wing root.  I think the seat brace looks overscale and inaccurate. I may paint it green so it doesn't stick out so much. 

I made new radiator flaps out of styrene.  Of course I had issues with the fit of the chin (intake), which was sightly to narrow for the fuselage.  I used styrene to spread it out to reduce the sanding.

I'm not sure I'm going to waste my good Pearl Harbor Defender decals on this turkey.  We'll see how it looks when painted up. 

On a side note, I got the Trumpeter kit cheap off ebay last week.  Depending how this goes, I may be trading out.    

Is it over yet????

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Posted by ajd3530 on Friday, September 26, 2014 10:56 PM

I need some help guys. I'm doing Lt. Harry Brown's P-36A. All P-36s had the two .50 cals in the nose. Some -A models only had one .30 cal in each wing, but later production -A models had two .30s in each wings, plus under wing pods to hold ammo. Now alot of people think since Rasmussen's ship only had the two .30s, it was the same with Brown's. But i recently read that the particular plane Brown flew was actually on loan from another squadron. So, two .30 cals, or four? Thanks!

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Posted by ajd3530 on Friday, September 26, 2014 11:05 PM

Evern more so, It seems even earlier Hawks had only the two .50 cals in the nose, and then original Hawks only had a .30 and a .50 in the nose.. I am so lost now..

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, September 27, 2014 9:21 AM

Joe you are doing great buddy.  It looks great to me.

Now for the questions.  And please understand I have just finished up recently a rather indepth build of the "B".  Yes there are ammunition bay openings on the top of the wings.  They extend out from the gun mounts in a narrow rectangle across two frame sections.  The guns mount from below so that access door is below and swings forward.  The seat framing, honestly, is wrong yes.  It should be round tubing with a brace just over the top of the seat.  The framing is approximately two thirds of the width of the seat and centered.  

Now with that being said, what you have works for the purpose.  To be honest there are a number of things I found when doing my research that would make you pull your hair out.  To take the time to try to fix the majority of the issues with the injection molded kits would take you several months and in that scale would be tedious at best.  There are few of us that would notice the ammo bay doors or the seat frame.  Your work to this point has been fantastic and I, as a huge fan of anything P-40 like, love what you have done so far.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, September 27, 2014 10:25 PM

Thanks Joe.  Do you happen to have a picture or a drawing of the top of the wing? Specifically where the ammo doors are?.  I'm going to try to scribe them in.  

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, September 27, 2014 10:40 PM

The best I can do at the moment is this.

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Arming_76_Squadron_RAAF_P-40_Strauss_NT_Jan_1943_AWM_NWA0006.jpg

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Posted by STFD637 on Wednesday, October 1, 2014 12:11 PM

 Well, work has been slow between work and other things. I had some issues with the cowl flaps fitting right and staying put! Here som WIP. I had to add some sprue to the trailing edge of the flap area as the pics I have show "ribs" to the edge and the PE only went so far. getting ready to do some preshading next. Then on to the paint.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Thursday, October 2, 2014 12:09 AM

Thanks Joe.  I decided to just leave well enough alone on the wings.  I'm in for an update.  I sat down and got some quailty bench time in last night.  I fixed a few things here and there, to include cleaning up the leading edge wing roots which were a mess.  I added some semi-circular-shaped styrene stock and poked rivets in them with a sewing needle to leave the illusion they're supposed to be there.  Probably not "correct" but it worked and looks passible to me.  Here's the area primered and ready for paint. It's starting to look like a Hawk 81...

I preshaded all panel lines XF-1 Flat Black.  I then sprayed the inner flaps, wheel wells and gear bays XF-4 Yellow Green, the perfect zinc chromate.  After these were taped off, the bottom got XF-53 Neutral Grey.  This was then cut with XF-2 Flat White and condensation streaks were added.  I then added more XF-2 and lightened the control sufaces.  After a post shade of diluted XF-69 and XF-64, here's where I'm at.  Perhaps it could use more... 

She was flipped over and Blue Tac was used to mask off the demarcation lines thusly...

Since the Academy P-40 is so lacking in the detail department, I needed to be creative with the paint.  started off with straight Gunze Aqueous Olive Drab 1.  This is the perfect USAAC drab to my eye.  Nice and brown.  Too bad its so hard to get nowdays.

Xf-57 Buff was added and condensation streaks were added.  More XF-57 was added for the control surfaces.  I then added the postshade to highlight the areas that were detailed, such as the engine area and control surfaces.  I also added some minor exhaust streaks with diluted XF-1 then XF-53 over it to simulate heat. 

I will add some minor chipping here and there, especially at the wing root, then a gloss coat.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, October 2, 2014 1:49 PM

Beautiful work both of you.  Just Beautiful.

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Posted by STFD637 on Saturday, October 4, 2014 9:22 AM

Joe, great looking P-40!! I have one in the stash that I was toying with throwing into this build. we will see if I can get some more progress done on the zero and start the Val! My hope is the Val will be an easier build than the Zero with all the PE! I will keep you posted.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Monday, October 6, 2014 7:27 PM

Thanks guys.  Last night I got it decaled.  I went wiith Welch's "160" machine. These were some of the best decals I've ever worked  with.   No issues whatsoever.  I was worried about the "160" but they snuggles right down under Micro Sol. 

The prop blades with this kit are comical.  They are flat and mishaped, so I raided my spare parts box for replacements.  I found some left over P-38 props which looked close.  Not too bad eh?  Probably not correct, but acceptable for this turkey.   I also drilled out the exhaust stubs. 

I'm getting close with this one.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, October 9, 2014 9:21 AM

It looks great from here.  Really like the coloring.  

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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, October 11, 2014 12:30 AM

I'm gonna go with done here. To recap, it's in the markings of 15th Pursuit Group 47th Fighter Squadron 2nd Lt. George Welch at Wheeler Field on December 7, 1941.  Welch and another pilot,  2nd Lt. Kenneth Taylor, both still clad in tuxedos from an event the previous evening, got airborne and scores kills on the invading Japanese.  Welch initially took off with only 30 cal ammo in the wing guns and claimed two Val dive bombers. After reloading, he got another Val and a Zero fighter.   Both men would be awarded the Distinguished flying Cross for their heroism.

Now onto the kit.  How much time do you got?....Tongue Tied  To sum it up, if your looking for something simplistic that resembles a P-40, its fine.  The best way to describe this kit is "generic", from the cockpit to the landing gear.  If you want a bit more, like a replica of the real Hawk 81, get ready for surgery or perhaps look elsewhere.  On this one, I grafted the Monogram belly onto the kit and made new radiator flaps out of styrene stock. I replaced the cockpit, wheels, wing guns and the flaps to spruce it up.  I also replaced the prop blades with those from the Hasegawa P-38.  Other additions were a bulletproof windscreen out of clear stock and I used a spare Eduard Sptifire tail wheel which is much better than the kit example.   I used Starfighter Decals which were some of the best I've ever used.    

On the finished model, I added smoke colored invisible thread radio wires to finish it off.  As I sat there looking at the finished model, something just didn't seem right.  It seems to me that either the landing gear is too compresed (short stance?) or the prop is too big in diameter.  I suppose thats the story of this build....Bang Head

On conclusion, any future Hawk 81 builds will be done with the Trumpeter kit, until the elusive state of the art kit is offered.    I'm sure we'll see another 109 first though...

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Posted by silentbob33 on Saturday, October 11, 2014 7:17 AM

Great work as usual Joe! I always enjoy watching your builds come together

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Posted by Tal Afar Dave on Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:55 AM

Joe,

Outstanding work on your Warhawk!  Love the plane and the story behind it.  Reminds me of the movie "Tora, Tora, Tora!!"  What a gutsy pair of guys taking on the entire Japanese Navy air arm!!!

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, October 11, 2014 9:19 AM

Outstanding.  Absolutely outstanding.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, October 11, 2014 9:30 PM

Thanks for the compliments, and thanks for having me..

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Posted by fightnjoe on Sunday, October 12, 2014 5:22 PM

Thank you for joining in.  

For those who have finished I will be updating the front page this week.  Sorry for the lateness of it.

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Posted by Tal Afar Dave on Sunday, October 19, 2014 10:08 AM

Hi guys,

A little late getting off the ground with my Airfix Val. It's a cool little kit, very basic from the 1980s (I think). Got the landing gear built and wings assembled.  Hopefully, I'll get a few pics up during my next break from work.

Thanks for you inspiring work fellas!!

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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, October 30, 2014 2:24 PM

We have gotten very quiet.  

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Posted by ww2psycho on Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:01 PM

I finally reordered masks for the zero so hopefully I'll jump back on it next month.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:36 PM

So very quiet.  

For those who have joined we have but four weeks left till the "official" end date.

There will be no new entries from this point.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, November 13, 2014 10:00 PM

Joe,

I guess your going to have to start Pearl 2015 now.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Friday, November 14, 2014 5:51 PM

Got to finish this one first.  

Then we can look at the next.

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Posted by STFD637 on Friday, November 21, 2014 3:17 PM

Well, I had to hold off on work for a couple of weeks as I lost my work room to my daughter! I did pull out my stuff today and plan on gettting some work done in the next few days though!!!! The Zero is about 85% finished, I have to admit all the PE was a little more than I barganed for.Embarrassed I am hoping the Val will be a little more straight forward since is will be OTB and looks like it will fall together nicely! Hope to have some WIP tomorrow. I should be able to get the paint on tonight or tomorrow. Hope to see more finished build on here....Great inspiration!!!

 

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Posted by Tal Afar Dave on Friday, November 21, 2014 4:39 PM

I had hoped to put a bit of extra detailing into my Val, but I got sick with the flu, close to pneumonia this past week.  So, this will be  a pretty basic build.  closed up the fuselage today and for the life of me couldn't get the fuse halves to line up.  I think one of the halves had a slight inward warp on the bottom edge.  Tried to bow the sunken bottom outwards but didn't have too much luck.  Will be busy with putty and sanding for a bit.....

Keep at it guys, let's beat this deadline!!

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Posted by ww2psycho on Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:11 AM

My Zero is done, I wont be home all weekend so pictures will wait till next weekend.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Sunday, November 23, 2014 8:01 AM

Just two weeks till the "end date", but all of you know how I feel about them.  I look forward to the finishes folks.  Some really cool work in this thread.

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Posted by ajd3530 on Tuesday, December 2, 2014 11:34 PM
Ok, with the move finally finished, I can resume work on the P-36. With only 5 days left, getting her finished on time will be a heck of a stretch. But lets see how close I can get. Just pulled her back out of the box, and here is progress so far:

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Posted by ajd3530 on Wednesday, December 3, 2014 12:31 PM
Cockpit before I close up the fuselage.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, December 6, 2014 7:32 PM

Both look great from here.  Very nice.

dec 7, 1941

7:40 am 183 japanese fighters, dive bombers, level bombers, and torpedo bombers from the first wave form up after what was termed the best launch yet north of kakhuku point.

7::49 the commander of the attack cmdr fuchida signals "to" meaning charge to the other aircraft. the flight breaks up to begin attack runs.

7:53 to 8:00 aircraft from the six carriers begin attacks on nas pearl harbor (ford island), hickam field, ewa marine air corps station, bellows field, wheeler field, kaneohe naval air station, and naval vessels and stations located in pearl harbor.

8:00 to 9:00 b-17c's and b-17e"s arrive from the us mainland and are attacked while trying to land at various fields.

9:00 2 p-40"s piloted by 2lt whiteman and lt bishop are shot down after getting airborne.

9:05 four p-36"s led by 1lt sanders take flight, moments later another p-36 piloted by 2lt moore takes off. he joins up with 2lt brown from haleiwa field

these are but a few of the aircraft that got airborne. i have it written down but cant seem to find the estimated total sorties flown that morning.

11:00 cmdr fuchida makes his final flight over the destruction. he leaves the area when he confirms he is the last plane to leave.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, December 6, 2014 9:23 PM

Thank you all for joining me on this build.  The work is outstanding.  

For those that will not finish by the "end date", I encourage you, please finish.  Do not let your build end up on the shelf of doom, never to be finished.  The spirit of this build is to remember, to honor those who died without knowing that they were at war.

I will be at work tomorrow and will be unable to post until afternoon.  With that in mind here is the last bit of "History".

December 7 1941, A day which will live in infamy.

The "attack" begins at approximately 7:51. At approximately 11:00 the last plane landed on the Japanese carriers. The time between is filled with death and destruction and the end of paradise. Six carriers.   Approximately 350 aircraft.  A plan designed to be just a distraction for the main thrust into the South Pacific by Japanese naval and army units. just a distraction, one designed to cripple the United States Navy so that the Japanese could move freely through the pacific.

In the end 2388 military and civilian dead. 2107 Navy and Marine as well as 233 army and 48 civilians. 1109 military and civilian wounded. 710 Navy and Marine as well as 364 Army and 35 civilians. 44 states represented, as well as the District of Columbia, Guam,  the Phillipines, and Hawaii. 16 congressional medal of honor  given as well as 51 Navy crosses, 53 silver stars, four Navy and Marine Corps medals, one Distinguished Service medal, and three bronze stars. 8 battleships sunk or heavily damaged, one minelayer sunk, two auxilliaries sunk or capsized and one heavily damaged. 169 aircraft lost, 92 Navy and 77 Army. 150 damaged, 31 Navy and 128 Army.   All this in 110 minutes of combat.

For this amount of damage the Japanese lost nine fighters, 15 dive bombers, and five torpedo planes.  One I-class submarine was lost as well as the five midget subs. the casualties; 55 airmen, 121 submarine crewmen, and nine midget sub crewmen.

These facts taken from several sources.

The attack was so quick, so sudden, many of those killed didn’t even know they were at war. even after the bombs and bullets started falling people didn’t believe that they were being attacked. one report of a young man hunting with a cousin didn’t believe there was an attack even after his cousin was killed.  After that day the Hawaiian Islands were torn from being a territory governed by a few families to becoming a true part of the United States becoming a state not long after the war.  The US Navy was forced to change from a navy of battleship groups to a Navy centered on the carrier.

Today it is said that the Arizona still weeps for her crew.

December 7 1941. Never To Be Forgotten.

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Posted by ww2psycho on Sunday, December 7, 2014 8:42 AM

Is there a plan for a 2015 GB? I still have 3 planes to make.

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Posted by lewbud on Sunday, December 7, 2014 11:59 AM

Not quite over yet Joe.  Building my P-40 as part of Wave 2 in the Weekend GB.  Ready for primer now, should be done this evening.  Thanks for hosting this build every year.

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Posted by Tal Afar Dave on Sunday, December 7, 2014 3:31 PM

Hey Psycho,

Great job on your Zero!  Really love the pre-shading on your panel lines; pretty sweet!!

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Posted by Tal Afar Dave on Sunday, December 7, 2014 3:35 PM

Hey Joe,

Thanks for hosting this important GB.  Unfortunately, I didn't finish my Val on time.  Still battling a terrible fuselage seam that wouldn't cooperate.  I will finish it though hopefully in the next two days or so, and will stick a picture on here if I can.

Here's to the next Pearl Harbor GB!!

TAD

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Thank you all for joining me on this build.  The work is outstanding.  

For those that will not finish by the "end date", I encourage you, please finish.  Do not let your build end up on the shelf of doom, never to be finished.  The spirit of this build is to remember, to honor those who died without knowing that they were at war.

I will be at work tomorrow and will be unable to post until afternoon.  With that in mind here is the last bit of "History".

December 7 1941, A day which will live in infamy.

The "attack" begins at approximately 7:51. At approximately 11:00 the last plane landed on the Japanese carriers. The time between is filled with death and destruction and the end of paradise. Six carriers.   Approximately 350 aircraft.  A plan designed to be just a distraction for the main thrust into the South Pacific by Japanese naval and army units. just a distraction, one designed to cripple the United States Navy so that the Japanese could move freely through the pacific.

In the end 2388 military and civilian dead. 2107 Navy and Marine as well as 233 army and 48 civilians. 1109 military and civilian wounded. 710 Navy and Marine as well as 364 Army and 35 civilians. 44 states represented, as well as the District of Columbia, Guam,  the Phillipines, and Hawaii. 16 congressional medal of honor  given as well as 51 Navy crosses, 53 silver stars, four Navy and Marine Corps medals, one Distinguished Service medal, and three bronze stars. 8 battleships sunk or heavily damaged, one minelayer sunk, two auxilliaries sunk or capsized and one heavily damaged. 169 aircraft lost, 92 Navy and 77 Army. 150 damaged, 31 Navy and 128 Army.   All this in 110 minutes of combat.

For this amount of damage the Japanese lost nine fighters, 15 dive bombers, and five torpedo planes.  One I-class submarine was lost as well as the five midget subs. the casualties; 55 airmen, 121 submarine crewmen, and nine midget sub crewmen.

These facts taken from several sources.

The attack was so quick, so sudden, many of those killed didn’t even know they were at war. even after the bombs and bullets started falling people didn’t believe that they were being attacked. one report of a young man hunting with a cousin didn’t believe there was an attack even after his cousin was killed.  After that day the Hawaiian Islands were torn from being a territory governed by a few families to becoming a true part of the United States becoming a state not long after the war.  The US Navy was forced to change from a navy of battleship groups to a Navy centered on the carrier.

Today it is said that the Arizona still weeps for her crew.

December 7 1941. Never To Be Forgotten.

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Posted by silentbob33 on Sunday, December 7, 2014 6:44 PM

Thanks for hosting Joe!  I was debating what markings to use for my Zero when I saw your post for this GB, and it made my decision easier.  Some day I'll make it out to Pearl Harbor to pay my respects.

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Posted by lewbud on Monday, December 8, 2014 8:46 PM

I finished my P-40 at around 0130 this morning.  Will post pics when I can get to a computer tomorrow.  Thanks again Joe for hosting this build.

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Posted by lewbud on Tuesday, December 9, 2014 7:02 PM

Here are pics of my finished build.  Hope y'all like them.

The P-40 came from Airfix's Pearl Harbor Dogfight Duo.  The other kit was their Zero, both new tools.  This is a pretty simple kit and was finished in about 42 hours (time includes work, sleep and a Christmas party).  Looks like the Zero will be next year's build.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Tuesday, December 9, 2014 7:05 PM

Looks pretty sharp my friend.  Nicely done in such a short amount of time.

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Posted by STFD637 on Monday, December 15, 2014 9:17 AM

Well i didn't finish on time, but I did finish!! The zero turned out pretty good. It looks great next to my Kate. Guess the Val will have to wait until next years build!

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Posted by STFD637 on Monday, December 15, 2014 9:22 AM

dont know what happened. pics didn't show up in the last post, but they are on the post when I am typing. Hope this works.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Monday, December 15, 2014 10:46 AM

Way too cool.  Nice work.  

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Posted by lewbud on Monday, December 15, 2014 4:15 PM

Nice job Travis.Yes

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