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75th Anniversary of 1941 Group Build (World at War)

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  • From: AandF in the Badger State
Posted by checkmateking02 on Friday, October 05, 2018 5:26 PM

Great looking ship, Scott!  Thanks for your participation in the GB.  It's always a pleasure to see your ship building skills.

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Posted by scottrc on Thursday, October 04, 2018 4:53 PM

Well Check,  here are the finished pictures of my Prinz Eugen pseudo 1941.

Use this picture for the front cover

Now the rest of the details

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Posted by taxtp on Wednesday, September 12, 2018 11:49 PM

Looking really good Steve.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:13 PM

Great start, Steve.  Thanks for the background information, too.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 8:35 PM

You bet Check, thanks for allowing me. Here's what I've got so far.

The box with all the AM. Eduard Big Ed set, Hunter wood deck, brass barrels and coat of arms for the display.

I am going to put it on a seabase depicting a scene where the POW is dodging the air launched torpedoes just prior to the crippling hit on the port screw.
I plan to show her, so I wrote a timeline which will go with the display.

The loss of the Prince of Wales

On Dec 8th, 1941 (Dec 7th Hawaii time) Force Z consisting of HMS Prince of Wales, HMS Repulse and accompanied by the destroyers Electra, Express, Vampire and Tenedos, sortied from Singapore to attack a reported Japanese landing force north at Kota Bharu on Dec 10th. Force Z was shadowed by Japanese observation planes during the late afternoon of Dec 9th and since surprise seemed impossible, Force Z turned to return to Singapore around 2000 hours. Unaware, Force Z was also spotted by a Japanese Submarine that day and as a result the Japanese transports had been moved north to safety. Shortly before midnight, Force Z received another report of a Japanese landing at Kuantan, which is on the Malayan coast nearer Singapore, and set course for there. Upon arriving off Kuantan on the morning of Dec 10th, the British fleet did not find a Japanese landing force. After investigating a tug towing several barges nearby, Force Z set course for Singapore once again. Shortly afterward, Force Z was sighted and attacked by a force of Japanese twin engine G3M1 Nell and G4M1 Betty Bombers armed with bombs and torpedoes. 
1113 hours, HMS Repulse was the first to be attacked               with eight 250-Kg bombs, one striking and exploding amidships.
1141 hours, another attack commenced on the port side of the HMS Price of Wales with nine bombers carrying type 91 aerial torpedoes. The aircraft made their initial approach at a speed of 150 to 180kts at an altitude of around 180 feet (55 meters). The torpedoes were set to a depth of 12 to 20 feet (4 to 6 meters). Eight of these planes attacked the Prince of Wales while one peeled off to attack the Repulse. The Prince of Wales began a slow turn to port while at a speed of 25kts to comb the wakes, but before the maneuver could be completed, eight torpedoes were released at a height of 100 to 115 feet (30 to 5 meters) and at a distance of 1970 to 4920 feet (600 to 1500 meters) from the ship.
1144 hours the Prince of Wales avoided seven torpedoes however one impacted port aft, severally damaging and bending the port propeller shaft, breaking the shaft struts while debris from the impact severally damaged the port center propeller blade. The bent port shaft failed and broke at several flanges due to severe vibration. This took several minutes as Lt Wildish, in command of boiler room B, which drove the port shaft, did not have any idea to the extent of the damage due to the loss of communications caused by the torpedo explosion. Because of the forward speed of 25kts, the shaft began to windmill despite the efforts of Lt Wildish to slow the shaft which put immense strain on the flange bolts. Eventually, vibration caused by the damaged shaft, caused failures at several flanges which also critically damaged the stern shaft tube and several bulkheads allowing thousands of gallons of sea water to fill the engine room’s bilges. Emergency pumps were started, and the space was abandoned, and watertight doors were sealed.
The loss of the port side shaft and center propeller severely limited the maneuverability of the ship which left her vulnerable to additional attacks.
1223 hours two torpedoes struck the starboard side. One at the bow and another stern further damaging the shafts and bending the outer shaft so far, the propeller wedged under the center starboard shaft.
1223 1/2 hours the last torpedo struck the starboard side under the compass platform. At this point the Prince of Wales was in serious trouble.
1241 hours she fell under attack again from eight high level bombers approaching from the port side. One 500Kg bomb hit the ship, six miss and one bomber failed to drop its bomb.
1243 hours Lights out.
1245 hours HMS Prince of Wales is listing 3 degrees to port and increasing the angle,
1250 hours HMS Prince of Wales radios Singapore for tug assistance.
1300 hours destroyer Express comes along side to evacuate personal and receive the wounded.
1310 hours all shafts stop and the order to abandon ship was given.
1324 hours HMS Prince of Wales capsizes and sinks.
327 sailors were loston the Prince of Wales, 513 off the Repulse. Nearly 1000 survivors were rescued from both ships.
On Dec 11th Lt Haruki Iki flew to the site of the battle, dropping two wreaths of flowers into the sea to honor combatants from both sides who had died in the battle. One was for the fellow members of his Kanoya Air Group, while the other was for the British sailors whose display of bravery in defense of the ships had gained them the utmost admiration from all pilots in his squadron.
The Prince of Wales rests upside down at the bottom of the South China Sea at a depth of 232 feet (68 meters) about 75 miles (120 kilometers) off the coast of Kuantan
 

I started on the deck and painted the hull first. This way I won't break stuff off trying to paint at the end.
She got pretty beat up from England to Singapore and I doubt the crew had much time to repaint before heading back out.

I sprayed the light gray, masked that off and added increasingly darker shades, pulled the tape off and voila! I think I got it close enough.

Now that I'm caught up, next I'll weather it and spray it with flat top coat to protect it.

Steve

ON THE BENCH

1/48 Tamiya Mk.1 Swordfish
1/350 Tamiya Prince of Wales
1/200 AMT Man in Space Rocket Collection

In Que

1/700 Tamiya King George V

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 8:09 AM

Sounds good, Steve.  I'll add it to the build roster.  Thanks for another entry!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, September 10, 2018 6:23 PM

Check,
I started the 1/350 Tamiya Prince of Wales last week and just have the wood deck on and am painting the hull camo. I want to get that done at the very first so I don't break stuff off painting it later. Is it too late to enter it in the GB? As you know, she was sunk in Dec 41.
I have all my WIP pics (what there is of them) up to now.

Steve

ON THE BENCH

1/48 Tamiya Mk.1 Swordfish
1/350 Tamiya Prince of Wales
1/200 AMT Man in Space Rocket Collection

In Que

1/700 Tamiya King George V

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Monday, September 10, 2018 5:50 PM

Great!  Anxious to see it.

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Posted by scottrc on Monday, September 10, 2018 3:48 PM

Thanks Steve and Check.

The Prinz is done, now I just need to set up my picture stand and take some decent pictures.

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Friday, September 07, 2018 2:33 PM

That is good information to have, Scott.

I've built New Orleans and North Carolina from Trumpeter, and didn't notice those issues, but your experience is a warning to be careful with future builds.  I have Lexington waiting around, so it's good to know these difficulties ahead of time.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, September 07, 2018 10:21 AM

The Prinz is looking great Scott. Yes

Steve

ON THE BENCH

1/48 Tamiya Mk.1 Swordfish
1/350 Tamiya Prince of Wales
1/200 AMT Man in Space Rocket Collection

In Que

1/700 Tamiya King George V

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Posted by scottrc on Friday, September 07, 2018 9:22 AM

A couple of years ago, I remember seeing on the forums complaints about fit and how it was due to the scaling down from 1/350.  This is the second Trumpeter build I have done.  The first was the Lexington and there was fit/scale issues with the sponsons on the hull and then the fit between the hull, flightdeck, and island.

I always thought its part of modelbuilding.  Usually, if there are placement holes, I either drill them out or cut off the nubs and don't use them.

One issue I am dealing with this morning is the distance between placement holes for the lifeboat racks are about 1mm shorter than they should be.  I had seen this with just about all the placement holes on this kit.  So I just cut the nubs off, center the part, and glue it down.

A couple of parts I did not do this, such as the hydraphones, so they are at a slight angle and not perfectly verticle.  They are glued too well to try to remove and reposition, so I will need to display the ship in a way that I can't notice it and drive me nuts, since I'm OCD.

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Thursday, September 06, 2018 2:51 PM

Very nice, Scott.  You've done a great job with it, despite the fit problems. 

Interesting about their scaled down kits.  I've only build two Trumpeter ships, but I don't know if they were scaled down.  I've got some more, so I'll have to be watchful.

Anyway--good work!

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Posted by scottrc on Thursday, September 06, 2018 10:32 AM

I had a good night of building and am now at the final chapter of this build.  All I have left is to put on the boats and then do some touching up and a final dull coat.

I had to admit, this kit was a pain as far as fit went.  I learned that 1/700 Trumpeter kits that derived from 1/350 scale really need a lot of test fitting and trimming.  I noticed after I secured parts that they didn't look right because of holes did not line up or worse, the raised flanges that guide the superstructure was off.  I don't hold that against Trumpter, and that for future builds, the old addage of measure twice, cut or glue once, needs to be practiced.

Starting the rigging.  I am trying some new techniques, so its going to look a little juvenile.

Final shot from last night.

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Wednesday, September 05, 2018 4:09 PM

A wise and discerning philosophy!

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Posted by scottrc on Wednesday, September 05, 2018 10:43 AM

An old modeling friend of mine used to say that cats and little kids were blessings for the modeler who liked to build but had limited space and didn't have a close attachement to his final creations.

I'm one of those types.  

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Tuesday, September 04, 2018 4:13 PM

Those cats!  Sorry to hear about the kitty disaster, because I know exactly what you experienced.  One of ours sank my USS New Orleans years ago, and I have to keep a constant vigil to protect current projects from their inquiries.  They carry off paint brushes; q-tips; pipettes; knock paint bottles off the table; and get their feet stuck on masking tape.  I suspect one of them of carrying off a pair of small scissors I use for decal-cutting.  Fortunately, they've never stuck their nose on a pool of superglue.  A cat is mayhem on four feet.

Still--they're cute, despite their destructive tendences.

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Posted by scottrc on Tuesday, September 04, 2018 10:59 AM

Man, its been over a month and no progress. You see, I got a new cat and well, he got into the basement and ran his tail across the top of the PE dismasting it.

With so much going on, I havn't had the chance to get back to it.  

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Wednesday, July 11, 2018 7:20 PM

Nice work, Scott.  That's a great-looking ship!

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Posted by scottrc on Wednesday, July 11, 2018 1:04 PM

A small update today, doesn't look like much has been accomplished, but it has.

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Posted by SMJmodeler on Tuesday, July 03, 2018 7:44 AM

taxtp: 1:76 scale...did I read that right?  That's one sweet little build and you knocked it out quickly!YesYes   

Any chance you could add another photo with a penny dropped in the shot for scale?

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Monday, July 02, 2018 8:00 PM

Front page updated with the photo, Tony.  Thanks again for participating in the build.  

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Posted by taxtp on Monday, July 02, 2018 6:30 PM

Thanks everyone.

Please use the first photo CMK.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by scottrc on Sunday, July 01, 2018 12:58 PM

That looked like a fun build Tony,  good job!

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Sunday, July 01, 2018 12:34 PM

Excellent, Tony!  That certainly turned out well.  Nice sense of action to it.

Which photo do you like for the finish build?

Thanks for being part of the GB.  Looking forward to seeing more of your work in the future!

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Posted by jgeratic on Sunday, July 01, 2018 10:08 AM

Hi Tony, great looking build and vignette! Yes

Same here, I have this matchbox kit built some time ago, good times.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by taxtp on Saturday, June 30, 2018 8:17 PM

..and here it is, this was a fun build. More builds to come I think.

Cheers

Tony

Regards

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Friday, June 29, 2018 10:07 AM

Looks good, Tony.  Has that dry and arid desert appearance.

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Posted by taxtp on Friday, June 29, 2018 5:22 AM

Thanks CMK. Here's a couple of photos of te base. I've had some trouble with my photography/lightning here, the ground has come out darker than it really is. I've added some extra debris for realism, and filled out the wall that was one sided, but other than that it's true to the base that Matchbox originally gave us.

Cheers

Tony

 

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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