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IDF group build 2019/2020
Posted by Theuns on Sunday, September 1, 2019 10:53 AM

Would there be interest in a GB dedicated to the Israeli Defence force? 

I was thinking any land, sea or air forces incl figures that was or is in use with Israel.

 

Start 01 sept 2019 untill 31 Aug 2020

 

Models started up to say 20% allowed.

Any scale 

OOB or loads of AM bling

WIP please

 

Theuns - 1/35 Academy Magach 7

 

GreySnake - Tamiya 1/35 Merkava

 

German Armour - TBA

 

John 3:16 KJV -  1/35 Monogram M48A2 Patton Tank. 

 

modelcrazy - 1/72 Hasegawa F-16 Sufa

 

Falconmod - 1/48 ESCI Kfir,  or a 1/48 Italeri F-16B

 

Est.1961 - 1/72 AH-1S cobra

 

castlenuovo - 1/35 Tamiya Merkava

 

lewbud - Ezer Weizman's Black 57 Spitfire

 

GMorrison - 1/72 Azur Sud Vautour fighter bomber

 

Mach1 - TBD

 

BrandonK - 1/48 M-51 Super Sherman IDF

 

Badge

 

 

Theuns

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Posted by mrmike on Sunday, September 1, 2019 11:23 PM

Hi Theuns;

Yes I would participate, but unfortunately not until after first of the year. Benchtime has been at a premium since Fall, and the rest of the year looks about the same. Best of luck getting your GB off the ground; there are plenty of unique and interesting subjects.

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Posted by GreySnake on Monday, September 2, 2019 1:11 AM

I’m interested. 

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Posted by German Armour on Monday, September 2, 2019 10:20 AM

Sounds like an interesting idea!

 Never give up, never quit, never stop modelling.Idea

 

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Posted by John 3:16 KJV on Monday, September 2, 2019 10:48 PM

I’ve got a kit that I could enter! Big Smile  

     “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

     For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.”  - John 3:16-17

 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, September 2, 2019 11:25 PM

Sure, I have a 1/72 Hase F-16 Sufa I'd like to get into.

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Posted by Theuns on Tuesday, September 3, 2019 9:20 AM

OK great, I have the front page build roster up and running , for the guys not stating a model yet please let me know what you will be building.

 

This is then basically open now so get cracking.

 

I am open to sugestions for a group badge, if you have one post so we can see please.

 

Theuns

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, September 3, 2019 9:35 AM

Maybe something with this?

Or too much?

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Posted by John 3:16 KJV on Tuesday, September 3, 2019 9:39 AM

Theuns: I can make one or a few for you and submit them, if you’d like. I can try to work with that, modelcrazy. Big Smile

     “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

     For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.”  - John 3:16-17

 

 

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Posted by GreySnake on Tuesday, September 3, 2019 9:51 AM

My build will be the Tamiya 1/35 Merkava. 

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Posted by falconmod on Tuesday, September 3, 2019 9:52 AM

I'd be interested, either a 1/48 ESCI Kfir,  or a 1/48 Italeri F-16B

John

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Posted by John 3:16 KJV on Tuesday, September 3, 2019 12:40 PM

Here are some GB badge options: 

Some images from the internet plus some editing and...

The GB dates aren’t too clearly visible on the last one; if you like that one and want me to redo it, just please let me know.  :)

     “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

     For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.”  - John 3:16-17

 

 

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Posted by Theuns on Tuesday, September 3, 2019 1:24 PM

Thanx for the feedback sofar guys, I like it.

 

Just a heads up, I am in South Africa, about 8 hour or so ahead of US eastern seabord so my responces might seem to be late to you guys, its 20h23 here now ;-)

 

Theuns

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Posted by John 3:16 KJV on Tuesday, September 3, 2019 1:47 PM

No problem! :) Also, my model is the Monogram 1/35 M48A2 Patton Tank. 

     “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

     For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.”  - John 3:16-17

 

 

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Posted by Est.1961 on Tuesday, September 3, 2019 3:22 PM

Hi Theuns,

I have a 1/72 AH-1S cobra that I can come in with thank you. 

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Posted by GreySnake on Tuesday, September 3, 2019 9:57 PM
Had sometime to night so cracked open the Tamiya Merkava. Here is the box.
 
The kit first came out thirty five years ago! It’s interesting to note in the instructions on the history of the vehicle it’s stated that the Merkava did well against T-72s in the recent Lebanon conflict. Makes you realize how long ago this kit came out.
 
Here are the sprues. Not a lot going on with this kit when compared to kits nowadays. I believe this is a pretty recent reissue of the molds appear to be in pretty good shape still.
Like most pre 1990’s Tamiya tank models there are holes in the lower hull for a motor that will need filled. I’ve just glued some styrene on the inside and will fill the holes with some putty. Put tape around where the putty goes, no point making a mess and causing myself extra work.
 
The hull is lacking sponsons so you can see underneath the tank. Normally I’d fix this with styrene, however I’m using the side skirts and with the tracks installed it will hardly be noticeable if at all. I’ll make a final decision after doing a little improving on the upper and lower hull.
 
Did a little test fit on the turret and the kit is showing its age somewhat, nothing that can’t be fixed with a little effort.
Now from reading the Tamiya kit supposedly represents the prototype Merkava and not the MK. I and because Tamiya didn’t get full access to the tank some parts is wrong or just not there to begin with. A lot the then new MBT’s Tamiya made back then suffered the same problem.  So I’m going to have some scratch building ahead of me. I’m going to see what I can do with what I have on hand versus using aftermarket.  I could go crazy buying aftermarket for the kit and at that point might as well buy the more accurate Takom kit.
 
 I can’t find it now but did come across on my online travels that supposedly Merkava prototypes did see action in Lebanon. At the very least I am going to see what I can do to make it look like a MK. I. 
 
 

 

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Posted by castelnuovo on Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:02 PM

I am also in with Tamiya's Merkava in 1/35. Bought it a while ago, just waited for an excuse to open it as my motivation for building has been in a doldrums lately.

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Posted by Theuns on Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:29 PM

Cool, seems we are off to a good start here :-)

 

Nice work sofar on that Merkava Greysnake, I have also looked at a few of the Tamiya 1/35 armour kits and might get one in the future, armour is not really my thng, I just want to try a few new weathering stuff I saw.

 

My build moejoe for this year has also been as low as can be but I made a start on my academy Maghac and sofar it is progressing well. I have assembled the road and drive wheels to see the track fit.

It seems the tracks are a few mm to short enev with the reat drive wheel axle moved as far forward as it can go...will have to think about this one for a bit.

The turret has the up armoured plates installed on the one side sofar, I had to wrangle it into place but I am sure it must be something I did wrong somewhere.

I had a look at some of the weathering powders and washes that one can buy but here in SA they are very expensive so I will play with oil paints and chalk pastels for now.

 

Academy's Merkava is also a very tempting subject, I may lool at getting one next year to compliment the one I am doing now.

 

Gues here in SA we sometimes have breaks in the internet so if I am offlin for a few days please continue, I will be back ;-)

 

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Posted by lewbud on Wednesday, September 4, 2019 3:03 AM

I'd like to join up with Ezer Weizman's Black 57 Spitfire. Scale will be 1/72, don't know which kit yet.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, September 4, 2019 3:18 AM

Oh goodness, or Oy Vay!

I've got quite a few, mostly aircraft.

Vautour probably my first choice,

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, September 4, 2019 10:31 AM

Here's a pic of mine. I'll start as soon as I get the paint together.

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Posted by Theuns on Wednesday, September 4, 2019 11:16 AM

Build roster updated

 

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Posted by John 3:16 KJV on Wednesday, September 4, 2019 3:53 PM

Mine, to be done in Israeli markings of courseBig Smile

Installment 1 - General

 

 

 

     “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

     For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.”  - John 3:16-17

 

 

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Posted by GreySnake on Wednesday, September 4, 2019 6:55 PM
Progress was made on the Merkava today, I keep finding little things that need fixed. One thing to be aware of is the Mk. I a lot of upgrades during its service life so looking at reference photos can be tricky. The Mk. I’s were upgraded to hybrid versions later in service using parts from the Mk. II so you have to be careful not to add the incorrect part unless you are making a hybrid. The good thing about building a very early MK. I is the anti-skid coating can be skipped along with the annoying ball and chain setup on the back of the turret. Both of those were starting to show up during 1982 but not all Merkava’s had them at the time.
 
The putty work on the bottom of the hull came out fine.
 
A couple vents need to be filled with sheet styrene as can be seen. Otherwise you'll see into an empty hull.
 
On both the right and left sides of the hull there should be exhaust pipes that aren’t included and just leave a giant opening. I used some sprue and drilled it out to make a couple exhaust pipes. I then had to make a little setup using more styrene so they’d fit correctly. The pipes don’t need to be fancy as the area is going to be painted black.
 
The turret on the Tamiya kit sits way too high and depending how the model is held you can see daylight. I started off by sanding the bottom of the turret ring.  There’s a small spot on the hull that can be sanded down lightly as well where the pencil is pointing. After doing that the turret sits much better. I couldn’t get a good angle to show the difference with a camera so now before and after shots.
 
 
While working on the turret some styrene was added to two little openings on the inside of the turret. I’m going to add a commander so with the hatch open some daylight can poke through the openings. With the hatches buttoned up this step can be disregarded.
 
In the end I did decide to close up some of the sponsons. The way the side skirts on the Merkava are you can see through some parts directly into the empty inside hull. Other parts you can’t so I’ve left those open for now. Really don’t need to be perfect just close off the hull, with the tracks and side skirts added you won’t be able to see much in the end.  I may or may not cover the entire area but at this point I might as well. Just realized I didn’t take a finished photo of the filled in sponsons. I’ll take one tomorrow. 
 
 
I “think” all the big fixes on the model are more or less done at this point. I’ll probably add some casting numbers to the turret. The tow hooks need the recesses cut out along with casting texture, rivets for the front mud flaps, towing shackles added to the turret and a few other fixes. So there’s still some work ahead of me.   
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Posted by falconmod on Thursday, September 5, 2019 12:28 PM

Here's the Kfir I'm working with.  the cockpit was short shot so I needed to add to that. The triangular intake on top needs to be remade cause it's way too wide, all panel lines will need to be etched as they are the raised type.

John

 

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Posted by Theuns on Thursday, September 5, 2019 11:43 PM

Ah man I remeber thos Esci kits from way bask in the 80's :-)

 

For interest sake, here is the new italeri 1/32 Mirage I did last year.

 Italeri 1/32 Mirage 3 cj by Theunis van Vuuren, on Flickr

 Italeri 1/32 Mirage 3 cj by Theunis van Vuuren, on Flickr

 

As for the tank, this is what I got done sofar, there are loafds of little brackets and things to put on.

 IMG_20190904_063114 by Theunis van Vuuren, on Flickr

1/2 of the turret armout installed

 IMG_20190904_063056 by Theunis van Vuuren, on Flickr

 IMG_20190904_065719 by Theunis van Vuuren, on Flickr

 

Theuns

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, September 5, 2019 11:58 PM

Israel acquired 31 Sud Vautour fighter bombers starting in 1958. While Israel was unable to obtain weapons from most countries following the Suez Crisis, France was a main supplier of armor and aircraft as well as small arms.

Early Israeli jets such as the Ouragon, the Mystere and the Vautour provided the basis of the IDF following the very ad hoc procurement of Avias, Spitfires, B-17s,C-47s, Dragons and so forth. Mirages came later.

The Vautour was initially developed as a small sized nuclear weapon delivery system for the AdeA, but was inadequate as a bomber because it did not carry any radar.

With 4 30mm cannon however, it replaced the Mosquitoes in IDF use and was a counter to the IL-28 Egypt was operating.

Vautours provided a main part of the Israeli ground attacks that precipitated the Six Day War. They shot up Egyptian, Jordanian, Iraqi and Syrian air bases, with some losses and one A 2 A kill.

It's kind of an unusual design, having the same bicycle landing gear as the earlier B-47 and the later Harrier.

My entry, Air Marshall.

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Posted by Theuns on Friday, September 6, 2019 6:25 AM

That is an interesting entry, looking forward to see it done.

The Magach is starting to look like a modern MBT now...loads of little things to glue on !

 IMG_20190906_130742 by Theunis van Vuuren, on Flickr

 IMG_20190906_130840 by Theunis van Vuuren, on Flickr

 

Theuns

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Posted by John 3:16 KJV on Friday, September 6, 2019 11:35 PM

Installment Two - Some Assembly

Below: Can anyone see the defect?- Ah, what to do?....Tongue TiedWink

 

 

     “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

     For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.”  - John 3:16-17

 

 

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Posted by Mach1 on Sunday, September 8, 2019 1:14 PM

Would you put me down as a TBD please? I'll need to do some digging to see what I have.

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