Moto GP group build '05

Hi everyone. FSM have moved the new Moto GP / GP build to the group build forum. Hopefully now we can get going, thanks for the suggestion Joel. Will start to create the build list once I am settled back home.

Happy modelling

I think you can ask one of the moderators to move it to the GB section.

As for the Ducatis it has been very slow the last couple of months. I'm back working office hours until April and that slows me down as much of the spare time is spent together with the family.

I've done half of the PE chain (what a terrible work...) and finished the decalling of the cowls. I'm doing the CF work right now.

/Joel

Damn I made a big mistake, instead of setting it up under group builds I have set it in:

Forums > Modelling subjects > autos

Sorry guys and hope you can find it now

Bushpig,

where is this new forum?....

Hi Joel

I have set up a new forum, there has been a few views and replies, seems it will take a bit of time to gain momentum. Great that you will support it. How are the Ducatis coming on, your pics on the website don't seem to have changed for a long time?

I'm in! I think we should start on a new thread though, but perhaps that was what you ment...?

/Joel

Racer the idea is not to shut it down but to start the new year with a fresh build. This build was oroginally started with a view to completing a moto gp bike before the end of 2005 so it's way past it's sell by date.

I also love this forum and have learnt so much from it, I am suggesting that the new build would focus a bit more on sharing our builds, tips and techniques. It's also a nice way for "like minded" individuals to hang out regardless of where we are in the world. It seems the consensus is that we give it a go, lets see how it develops.

come on! now that I found motogp fans and modeler you guys want to stop doing this?

Count me in and can somebody tell me why does this forum have to have a deadline or an end? It's a great place that should be available to anyone at anytime...I learned a lot from you and I'd like to know that I can continue to learn so I can pass it on when the time comes...

It's been a great inspiration to me, I hope you don't decide to shut it down,

Sincerely

Marcelo Cento - racer155

Was thinking about that myself , but having it open like no end date that way anyone can join at anytime and without a time limit to finnish the build which would help with some of us slower builders

Shayne 

Bushpig, I for one won't mind the idea. Just to get a dedicated build going. Busy with a Spiderman bike at this stage, say about... 75% done. I'll give a GB a go after that if you'll have me.

Yamahafreak, the sealer is just a sealer to prevent the buffinf metalizers basically giving off to touch after you've "polished" them beautifully. To seal in the look and prevent contamination. So I'm pretty sure (if by now you haven't tried it on seperate sprue) that it should work. But by allmeans test it first! I have used it (Future) over non-buffing metalizers.

Hi All, happy new year to everyone.

This group build seems to be breathing it's last breaths which is a pity as I have enjoyed being part of it of late and have benefitted from the tips and advice so freely given by all contributors. Considering it was supposed to end at the end of 2005 I think it has done very well, well done to Pintang who started it all off way back when.

Maybe it's time to get the enthusiasm going again and bring it up to date and start a new Moto GP / GP bike build that will continue the theme of sharing our builds and imparting knowledge / information along the way? I will not be able to resume building till at least end March and can't wait to get going again.

Throwing the idea out to everyone, should we start up a 2007 group build??? It would be nice if some of the older contributors got involved again.

Does anybody use the Tamiya polishing compound to finish their paint jobs? what's the Tamiya part # for it?

thank you.

Racer155

Can't help you on this one, I only use either tamiya chrome or tungsten or Alclad chrome. I also find once I have added the heat staining / weathering very little of the base chrome shade is left so I don't wory too much about geting a perfect chrome finish.

I found the decaling on this NSR was not the easiest, especially to get the stripe decals to conform to the rear fender. I ordered 2 replacement decal sheets before I sort of got it right. One tip on the rear fender which I found worked a bit beter was to trim the decal down and apply it then carefully masked it off and sprayed tamiya x10 on to the top area to give the grey finish. This minimised the curves the decal had to bend around. I still want to re-do mine now that I have a spare set of fairings and decals after purchasing kits to go with the Rennaisance NSR transkits.

I saw this one a couple of days ago, have a look at that crazy clutch cover! And the swan looking rear fender...

I could have a go at this one when T releases it (cause they sure will)

Racer155; I think you shall do like you just did. Just look so that the primer doesn't have any larger particles in it, then spray the color. That the primer looks flat is just telling you it does its job as it is shall give the paint job something to bite to.

/Joel

Not sure if this is the livery Nicky has chosen for next year, this new Honda will take some getting used to!!!

Racer. Thanks for the link and I will give the method a try sometime, looks a bit fiddly but the result is great. The modeller is obviously a very serious guy, his work is absolutley superb.

 Glad the paint work came out good for you, it's small victories like this that keep us interested!

WOW!!! I've just sprayed the 1st coat of TS51 and just can't believe how good the paint is, how good it looks on the plastic, how all my fears have been "painted away".

I know it won't be a top notch paint job like the ones I've seen in this forum but it just gave me a lot of confidence.

I'll keep you posted.

Racer155

Bushpig,

Here's a link that might help...I can't understand a word but I do get the idea, I'm sure you will too !

http://koumodeling.fc2web.com/frame/index.html

Go to "HOW TO" and click on the first link....I recommend navigating the entire site, crazy stuff!

Later!

Bushpig,

 I tried light coats and it comes out really grainy, I tried different distances and doesnt get any better...

I'm thinking the primer straight from the can combined with my lack of experience is not the best for such small pieces.

I've done my real race bike with caned primer and paint and it turned out awesome, by this I mean I know how to spray but it's not working with my model.

I'll keep doing it until I get better.

I'm ready to spray the TS51, I'll let you know how it turns out.

Racer155

Wolfpac,

I just did the frame and swingarm, wheels and fairings. Everything else just painted.

Racer

Reading your descripition one thing that may be happening is that you are putting the coats on too thick, maybe it's bubbles forming etc. If this is the problem try decanting the primer into your airbrush bottle and spraying lighter coats.

Or possibly you may be just spraying too far from the piece so the paint is drying a bit in the air and you get a powdery build up, this is easily brushed away once the under layer is dry.  I use normal wet paper from the hardware store, 1200 grit and when I sand I am hardly touching the surface, just lightly back and forth to get a dull / flat look not actually grinding away.

Hi Shayne

Thanks for the compliment and I agree with you on the screws. Even though I stuck the PE bolt tops onto the screw head it still has that out of scale look. Is there a replacement bolt set out there somewhere?

 How is your 2005 test bike coming on?

Bushpig wrote:

I had the same problem with the old boxes when moving, I cut the top off each box of a complete kit (why do we keep them anyway???) to end up with a stack of box art, beats throwing the whole lot away and the Tamiya box art is superb. Don't know what I am going to do with them but at least I still have them.

 Had the same here so put mine on wall , small hobby room so not all of them are up.

Bushpig-Rossi M1's are simply stunning top one could almost pass for real bike if it wasn't for the screws in front wheel.

Shayne 

On the primer topic:

 Do you guys primer every single part (Frame, motor, rotors, wheels)?

Joel,

It's hard to explain what it looks like but I guess I'm on the right track because it does look flat with small crannies.

What's the curing time for primer? the Tamiya can says it can be sanded after 2 hours but when I do, it balls up on my sandpaper....For me it kind of works after a couple of days, making it a long process...

I tried the thin layer and then the wet one and it seems to work fine. What kind of sandpaper do you use? I have the Testors' pack, red, brown, gray, black, etc....Could the finest automotive paper work? like a 2000 grit wet sand paper?

Thank you.

Hi Joel

I am following your progress on the Ducs on your website, good stuff.

I had the same problem with the old boxes when moving, I cut the top off each box of a complete kit (why do we keep them anyway???) to end up with a stack of box art, beats throwing the whole lot away and the Tamiya box art is superb. Don't know what I am going to do with them but at least I still have them.