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Community Build Project - 1/20-1/32 Ferrari
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 2, 2003 10:16 AM
Community Build Project (March 2003)

Subject/Scale:
1/20 - 1/32 Ferrari PLASTIC kit (other than F1)

Tools:
Unlimited - use anything you have access to.

Start Date:
Anytime. Smile [:)]

Deadline:
May 1st, 2003

Other:
Keep cost of kits under $30 US. Straight from the box build, no aftermarket stuff. If it doesn't come in the box, then it doesn't go on the kit.



Discussion for the March Community Build Project. Looks like we'll go with a Ferrari. The scale has yet to be discussed. Post your suggestions here.


For discussions about the Community Build Project - rules, tool lists, etc., please refer to the discussion open challenge to all modelers!.
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Monday, February 3, 2003 7:29 AM
Ok, for this one, I'd propose opening up the CBP to any 1/20 to 1/32 Ferrari PLASTIC kit, other than F1, maybe... This obviously includes the most popular car scales of 1/24 and 1/25.

Restricting ourselves to a particular type could limit the number of people who join the CBP, because of price and/or availability of kits (remember that everyone hasn't got a hobby shop or a WalMart (sigh) next door). After all, most cars are built the same way and even with different models of Ferraris, we will still be able to discuss techniques and other things relevant to car modeling.

Price limit of $30 (or equivalent in local currency) would still apply.

Comments & suggestions welcome.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 9, 2003 7:00 PM
Thought I would dig this one back out and bring it back up for discussion. If you're still interested in doing a Ferrari for the next project, then please post here.

I edited the tool list and made it unlimited.
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Posted by FreedomEagle1953 on Sunday, March 9, 2003 7:13 PM
Hi guys ... hope I can come closer to getting this project done in the agreed time frame. I am still working on my F/A-18's ... the AMT/ERTL 1/48 scale F-18A (the one with the missing cat toy ... err canopy <grin>) and the replacement kit (Monogram's Blue Angels F-18 HORNET - started at a late date in the program) and I am having fun ... which I think is the most important requirement.

Anyway, I for one like the idea of opening up the tool list ... and I also vote to do a 1/20 - 1/32 scale Ferrari plastic kit, other than F1, (perhaps we could do an F1 car at a later date). I have recently picked up a copy of the newish (2002) Revell 1/24 scale Ferrari 360 Modena Spider ... kit no. 85-2365, $14.99 @ my local hobby shop (LaGrange Hobbies). If everyone agrees to do a Ferrari for our next CBP ... this is the kit I shall build. I have opened the box, and no I didn't start or even open the bags ... but, from a short exam ... it looks like a nice kit.

FreedomEagle1953

Chicago, IL area

"keep on building 'em ... but don't glue your fingers together"

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 9, 2003 7:29 PM
Sounds like a plan. I changed the scale guidelines to 1/20-1/32 (other than the F1).

We'll have to pick a starting date at some point, but we can wait on that for awhile. Allow some time for people to finish up the F-18 and take a break, work on other kits for awhile, etc.

I think I'll pick up the same one - the Revell 1/24 (2002). Especially if you've had time to look over it and deem it worthy. Smile [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 9, 2003 9:33 PM
I'm in. I thought I'd get the F-18 done this weekend, but I have some final touch-ups left. It'll be done soon though.

I agree with all prior posts on the subject/tools, etc. There's lots of Ferrari kits out there and I can't imagine any one of them not being 'fun'...

My suggestion is to set a 'completion date' of May 1st. Anytime people would want to start would be OK with me. This would also five people more 'time' to join in as the build goes on (there were a few people in the F-18 CBP that found out or noticed the project late in the game.)

I'm not sure what I'm going to build yet, but I've decided that it's going to be YELLOW!!

M.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 9, 2003 10:28 PM
This sounds like a good start. I will definately be joining in as well. Anyone have a list of available kits that meet the criteria established? How can you paint a Ferrari anything other than red? I don't think Enzo would like thatTongue [:P]. I know mine won't be blue. The last three models I have completed have been blue with a fourth on the way. Maybe yellows' not such a bad ideaWink [;)].

Darren
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Monday, March 10, 2003 2:32 AM
Sounds good! Does anyone want to finish my F-18E...??!?! I already have my Ferrari, it's a 1/24 F40 from Protar. Spent the equivalent of $10 on e-Bay. Pretty good deal. I'm definitely not going for RED. My theory is that if you can afford to buy a Ferrari, you have the money for the colour you want too. So, I'm probably going to go for white or yellow..! Or black??!
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 10, 2003 8:22 AM
This sounds like a great idea. Sorry I just stumbled across this or I might have jumped in on the F-18. As far as the starting date, can someone officially confirm an immediate starting date, or are we still going to set a start date? Either way I'm fine, I'd just like to know if I can start right away or not. I'll see what I can come up with as far as list of available kits.
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Monday, March 10, 2003 8:58 AM
I think things are still being discussed at this stage, Heylonghair, but I'm glad you're joining in. Do not hesitate to voice your comments and ideas.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 8:54 PM
Did a bit of searching and came up with a couple of kits that meet the criteria:

Revell - 1/24 360 Modena Spider #2365
FreedomEagle1953 already mentioned that one. I checked it out too and it does look like a nice kit.

Tamiya - 1/24 360 Modena Spider #24228
Tamiya - 1/24 Enzo Ferrari #24260

This is by no means an exhaustive list and if anyone else has any others to add please feel free to do so.

There would also be the Revell Testarossa kit from a few years ago that would fit the bill as well. I know I have a couple of them packed up somewhere...waiting.

Just a thought that came to me regarding the price cap. Is the price limit MSRP or is it the actual price we pay for it. Just wondering because in the latest Scale Auto they have the Enzo Ferrari kit listed as $24.00 MSRP but up here in Canada it is a $65.00 kit. I know conversion doesn't account for all of that so I don't know where the rest of the increase comes from but...what's the concensus?

Anyway, I'm really looking forward to this new CBP.

Ray
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 14, 2003 11:34 AM
Ray, you are right about the $. I went down to the hobby shop yesterday to pick one up and the Tamiya kits are through the roof!! I know they're expensive, but this particular one is big $. I've read the reviews and I know it's a nice kit, but I'm not ready to dish out for it yet.

We've got some time, so I'm gonna see if I can find something for a little less $. If I find something I'll let you know.

M.
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Friday, March 14, 2003 4:19 PM
When you guys say no F1 cars, do you mean no racing cars at all or just no Formula 1 cars? I have a Testors boxing of the old Union Ferrari 512S that was run in the World Championship of Makes back in the late 60's.

Fade to Black...
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 14, 2003 8:25 PM
blackwolfscd, I don't know what the general concensus is but to me that means just F1 cars. I would say that your model would be a go. I guess we'll just have to see what everyone else thinks tho.

Ray
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Saturday, March 15, 2003 12:48 AM
The reason I proposed 'no F1' is actualy two-fold. One, the 'favorite' F1 scale is not 1/24 but larger kits such as 1/12, and second, they usualy ae much more complicated kits (and more expensive), and I thought this could reduce the number of people who would try the CBP 2, or join the first few CBP 1 volunteers...

Building a car kit need not be complicated. Many kits will be just great even if you do not build the engine bits or omit bits from the suspension for instance. F1 kits come with visible engines, therefore making them that much more complicated, and the decalling calls for some 'not so basic' techniques. Ferraris are normaly red, and have little in the way of added decorations. I just thought it would make things easier. But if other peolpe feel F1 kits should be included, so be it... I have a few F1 from the Ferrari stable I wanted to try anyway..!
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 15, 2003 1:12 PM
djmodels1999, I can definitely see your point. On the other hand, as long as the kits conform to the other criteria (price, scale, and subject) I think we should let them in. As has been mentioned, this is not a contest, so if someone wants to tackle a kit like that, we could probably all learn something from that. Also, I would think that most people would have a relatively good idea about their ability level and would not tackle a kit like that for the first time in a situation like this.
Maybe we could just put a suggestion in with the criteria suggesting that participants consider the difficulty of kits like that before they commit to building one.

To make a long story short...My take is if it meets all the criteria and you feel comfortable building one, go for it. I myself have never built one but I would love to have some feedback and direction for when I do decide to tackle one.

Ray
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Saturday, March 15, 2003 1:42 PM
Actually, the most popular scale for F1 cars is 1/20th. At least that's been my experience! Tongue [:P] They can be relatively expensive, however. Dead [xx(]

I thought that maybe your reasoning was that F1 cars are open wheel racers and the one's you fellas are talking about are mostly full body/fendered street cars. The Ferrari I have is a 24th and it's a full body car that competed against Porsche 917's and the like. I'm planning on building it anway. Matter of fact, I'm building it as a part of a common kit bet like the ones I mentioned in an earlier post. (different thread)

I'm also planning on doing it in the "curbside" tradition. I'll put the engine and other structure into it, but only as the support for the body work. It won't be readily visible.

In our common kit bets that we have here in Buffalo, we usually leave it wide open as to the level of effort or other expenditures that any participant is willing to put forth or invest. But seeing as ya'll are dealing with a potentially international community (as opposed to a half-dozen good friends) as well as a wider range of skill levels and different capacity wallets, (Tongue [:P]) I can see the points on price of kit and complexity of subject.

Well, I hope I'm in! I'd like to see how it goes compared to the local version.

My only problem is the decals, they're utterly unusable. Off to the Cady website...

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Posted by djmodels1999 on Saturday, March 15, 2003 5:18 PM
I'm OK with all that, guys. No problem... Happy modeling!
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 15, 2003 10:05 PM
Have we decided on a start date yet?
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Monday, March 17, 2003 12:58 AM
Did we say 1st of April???
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 17, 2003 11:52 AM
I'm going to throw this out and hope that I don't get in too much trouble:

Personal opinion is that we should set a 'finish' date and if someone wants to start today, that would be OK with me. Some of us need a 'break', but other may be itching to get going. I'm not sure what the real purpose of a 'start-date' is so my recommendatoin is that if we set the completion date and then release it to the masses!

I won't be starting for a couple of weeks, but it might be a little 'motivation' to hear of the progress other people are making.

I'm easy either way. Open to feedback.

M.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 17, 2003 4:04 PM
I agree with mkish. Let's just set the finish date and leave the start date open.

So we've nixed the tool list and the start date.

The important thing is getting together and building a kit of a similiar subject and having fun. Finishing is optional. Wink [;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 17, 2003 4:25 PM
OK,i'm new here, so i dont really understand how this community build works??? Can some one please explain??? Does everyone meet somewhere???

Ron
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 17, 2003 4:32 PM
What is the goal,if there is one???? or is this a jam season????

Sounds like fun!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 17, 2003 5:30 PM
littlemoe:
The "meeting" is right here on the forum posting progress updates and discussing techniques. The goal is to have fun and learn from, or laugh at each other's experiances.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 17, 2003 5:40 PM
Ooops, forgot some things
#1 Use MSRP, as actual cost will vary greatly.
#2 May 1st deadline with no start date would be good.
#3 1/20-1/32 scale.
#4 Kit parts only.
#5 Allow F1 as long as other criteria are met.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 17, 2003 9:13 PM
The CBP 'started' as an innocent challenge to build a kit with very few basic tools. The thought was that we often get sidelined by the technicalities of using our specialty tools. A few of us recalled the 'good old days' when we were kids and the excitement of putting a kit together. We didn't have special tools then and it really was alot of fun! It started with a group of us challenging each other to build a common kit with only the most basic tools. We agreed that we would 'discuss' the project as we went along and send pictures as we progressed.
Well, we all learned something and I personally realized that I *liked* using the special tools and it was part of the fun for me. However, I think we all enjoyed building a common kit together. It was a good opportunity to share the different features of the various kits available, and to get advise from each other as we ran into problems.
So, onto kit #2 where we're hoping to adjust the parameters based on what we learned from kit #1. It's pretty simple really... it's kinda like a *theme* month. We collectively pick a subject, then build it and share/compare the results. No competition, just fun. We have some basic guidelines/rules meant to keep the whole thing light and fun, rather than turn it into a competition.
So find a Ferrari kit, get building, and share some of your thoughts as you go along. If you have a digital camera, then take some pics as you go so we can see how it's going. Who knows, there may be a stage of the kit that reminds you of a really funny story totally unrelated to the kit. That's what the forum is for... sharing and having fun with whatever happens as you build the kit. Who knows, there might even be some technical discussion specifically related to the kits...

Dariencharlie offered up some webspace for the prior CBP and I have quite a bit of space and a high-speed connection available as well. If dariencharlie is unable to assist us, I'll be glad to help out and post the progress pics that are available. I'll await thoughts from dariencharlie and the group before posting an email address...

Enjoy!!

M.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 18, 2003 2:52 PM
Hey littlemoe, Welcome aboard. I'm relatively new here myself, but so far this has been a great site!!

So, has anyone else picked a kit yet? I picked up the Ferrari 360 Modena Spider kit but I'm still debating whether I want to build that one or one of my Testarossa kits. Has anyone built one of those Testarossa kits before? I don't even know the kit # offhand (it's all packed away right now) but it was a Revell (or it might still have been Monogram). Or maybe I'll just jump in and try and build both. :-) (WHAT am I saying, these "forum fumes" must be getting to me.) :-)
No matter, I am looking forward to this project!

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 18, 2003 4:42 PM
ok guys and gals, i'm hooked...... I'mlooking for a kit on ebay as I type!!! So when do we start building??? Can i start as soon as I get the kit????

Yes I do have a digital camera.... As matter of fact, i havn't used a film camera in almost a year!!! That is my other hobbie, digital cameras!!!

Ron
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 18, 2003 4:47 PM
Hey littlemoe.

You can start anytime and definitely post some pictures. We'd love to see some in-progress ones as well as the final product.

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