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  • From: Fort Worth, TX
Posted by flippersdad on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 10:11 AM

Sorry to all as my contribution for this GB will be late in being presented.

Merry Christmas to all and may ya'll have a blessed New Year.

Cheers Make a Toast [#toast],

Eric

A great lie - "I'm from the FAA and I'm here to help." Politics - Many blood sucking insects. Flying - Long periods of boredom puncuated by moments of stark terror.
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  • From: Redmond, WA
Posted by bwr1 on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 7:58 AM
For the BV 238, I had hoped to have more to report by the middle of December (I had hoped to finish by the end of December), but I've discovered that it's hard to do much modeling by candelight. I live in Redmond, WA and we've been without power since 10pm last Thursday, and we also lost power for 9 hours on Wednesday the day before. The house and garage are about 45 degrees - too cold for modeling. I tried to do some work by candelight one afternoon (my bench is in the darkest corner of the garage when the lights are out), but the next thing I needed to do was make some details for the wings, and I couldn't see what I was doing.

Fortunately we do have power where I work.

Oh well, here's where things stand with the Bv 238 (no pictures - maybe later once we get power back on - could be as late as this coming weekend - Puget Sound Energy just sucks at giving you repair estimates).

1. The wings and empennage are complete except for a couple of minor details. Once those details are made and attached, the wings and empennage will get primed.

2. I have formed an epoxy putty master for either vac forming or smash casting a new canopy structure (the one provided was just way, way wrong in terms of shape and window placement). I still have to do some finish sanding to form the window flats on the master, and then I'll have to experiment since I haven't done this type of forming before. No idea how well it will work out.

3. I've started scratchbuilding the interior flight deck structures. I've worked out a really nice way to make consoles with levers. I've also tried making instruments but I'm not too happy with that - I have some more ideas on how to make that better - the instruments are hard to make a uniform square shape in 1/72, so I think I need to make some jigs to help with that.

Bruce

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  • From: houston,texas
Posted by ghettochild on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:44 PM
Thanks guys. its was painted vallejo gunmetal grey, with silver drybrushing. I hope to be decaling it soon
-Josh
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  • From: Connecticut, USA
Posted by Aurora-7 on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 9:42 AM
The colors of the engine look great.  How did you do it?

 

 

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Posted by bwr1 on Monday, September 11, 2006 5:22 PM

Nice stuff there.  What colors did you use on the engine?

Bruce

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Posted by ghettochild on Sunday, September 10, 2006 10:40 PM

Hi all, finally getting around to posting some pics.

Ive closed and painted everything just wait to put on decals

-Josh
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  • From: A Computer in Adrian, (SE) Michigan.
Posted by Lucien Harpress on Wednesday, August 9, 2006 7:29 PM
Very nice work, Bruce.  It was even harder with the H-4 Flying Boat.  Many things that I knew were innaccurate I was powerless to correct.  The rounded planing bottom is a good example.  Oh, well.  You can only do so much.  Nice job.  I wish you luck.

As for the H-4, work has slowed down, due to my running out of putty.  I'll work on the elevators and rudder until then, and it gives me time to finish some other unfinished (smaller) kits.  Elevators are pretty much done, and I'm sanding the rudder to the final shape.  Little things.
That which does not kill you makes you stranger...
-The Joker
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  • From: Connecticut, USA
Posted by Aurora-7 on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 11:29 AM
Bruce,

As long as you'r having fun with it.Wink [;)]

Ignorance is bliss for a modeler. Once you find out an inaccuracy, it haunts you. It should all be worth it, though once this behemoth is done.

Joe, and GA, sorry to see you go but if you change your mind, we'll be right here.

My work on the Sa.21 does not give it much of a different look from my last picture. I'm getting ready to paint it, with some trepidation using a new airbrush and compressor.

 

 

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  • From: Redmond, WA
Posted by bwr1 on Saturday, August 5, 2006 5:12 PM

Update in the Bv.238 progress.  I finally got the German-languge reference book - it has a lot more photos than I was able to find online.  This is good and bad - now I can tell all the areas of the kit that are inaccurate - I was blissfully ignorant before. It's been helpful in making progress on some details.

What I've gotten done:

Fixed the window locations and shapes - based on the photos I had to fill in some previously cut out windows.

Started reworking the nose shape - it's all wrong.  Filled the interior of the nose with epoxy putty and then sanded the plastic (and into the epoxy) to a better approximate shape.  Still more sanding and shaping to be done.

The float shape is wrong - the kit part is angled funny and has a pretty narrow taper at the bottom.  I think the structure is fairly complicated but I can't tell for sure from the photos so all I did was correct the gross shape errors with epoxy putty.  Wish I had before and after photos, but I forgot to take the before photos.

The engine shape is way off - too thin and wrong shape.  I can fix the thinness (sort of) but can't fix overall shape without a complete scratchbuild so I'll do what I can with the kit parts.  I've cast some details for the engines, and assembled one of them.  I used MicroMark's starter kit for mold material and resin.  This was my first time casting something, and it worked out much better than I expected.

I made master parts for casting.  The prop spinner is basswood carved to rough shape and then chucked in my dremel and sanded to final shape. The exhausts are kit parts from a Hasegawa Bf109G kit:

Here's the mold:

I made 6 castings.  One set is already on the assembled engine:

The assmbled engine (right) next to the original kit parts (left) for comparison:

Next up - making prop blades and finishing all six engines.  The first one needs some rescribing, an access window cut out, and final filling with Mr. Surfacer.  After that, I'll probably start on scratchbuilding the cockpit.  I have Revell's Bv.222 kit, so I think I'll use that as a starting point for the Bv.238 cockpit since I can't find any really useful reference photos.

Thanks,

Bruce

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  • From: Ontario, Canada
Posted by rudy_102 on Saturday, July 29, 2006 7:07 PM
I'll enter with an An-2V modified for the 1000 years 3rd Reich GB.
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  • From: savannah ga.
Posted by GA.modelmaker on Saturday, July 29, 2006 5:12 PM
hey aueroa-7 i have to drop this gb i see no way that i can either start it or finish it. thier is just not enough time for me to even think about getting this one done in time. not wih the ga deer seson fast approaching .
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  • From: Virginia
Posted by JoeRugby on Thursday, July 20, 2006 11:55 AM

Well Gents,

It is with certainly mixed emotions that I need to back out of this build.  Disapponting...but also exciting.  I have been asked to build my subject matter as a "commission".  I am not getting paid so I will keep my most certainly deserved amatuer status...

Check out the WW I Special Interest Group @ http://swannysmodels.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=WW1SIG
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  • From: Connecticut, USA
Posted by Aurora-7 on Tuesday, July 4, 2006 10:28 PM
Hope you mend soon, Chris. The Vicks look pretty good.

Here's a test fit of some of the major sub assemblies to my Savioa 21.



 

 

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  • From: Salisbury Massachucetts USA
Posted by PanzerWulff on Monday, July 3, 2006 11:06 PM
sorry for my lack of progress guys I was busy finishing up some builds. but it looks modeling is off my list of things to do for a bit. I had a bit of a spill and banged myself up a bit mostly cuts and scrapes and a couple of bruised ribs so sitting up hurts like heck the only pic I have to post is my twin Vickers K-guns as you can see theyre pretty tiny I converted them from the twin brownings in the kit enjoy
ACE??? you were NEVER an ace AN ace HOLE maybe! (Lister to Rimmer on BBC's RED DWARF) Chris"Hey GRAVITY still works"Gray
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  • From: A Computer in Adrian, (SE) Michigan.
Posted by Lucien Harpress on Monday, July 3, 2006 2:02 PM
Okay, time for another update:

It's been a while (in part because I've been away on vactaion for the last week up by Mackiaw City), but I've made some progress on my H-4.  I took care of a large seam on the botton of the planing hull by gluing a strip of styrene stock to cover it.  It was present on the real thing, so for once accuracy actually helped me.

I've begun work on the other tailplane, and hopefully soon I'll be able to get both of the tailplanes attached to the fuselage.  Then I can begin work on the rudder.

And, as always, the never-ending "putty, sand, prime, repeat" process goes on.

I'll get some more pics up as soon I make some major visible progress.
That which does not kill you makes you stranger...
-The Joker
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Posted by Aurora-7 on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 4:35 PM
Steady, Rik! Though that is a lot of distractions you just picked up.

 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 6:22 AM

Hi everyone,

Good news, the previous owner has found the instruction sheet for the emily and mailed in to me.  Hopefully today's shopping expedition, that includes an icm mig-31, bf-109e trop, hasegawa spitfire mk9, airfix spitfire mk5b and itaeri a-4 skyhawk with rnzaf low vis, wont distract me!

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 16, 2006 8:01 AM

Hi buddy,

Thanks for the effort, how could you lose a kit that big?  Mind you I bought an airfix blenheim and only realised later I already had one!  I hope someone else has got one out there.

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  • From: Connecticut, USA
Posted by Aurora-7 on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 10:11 PM
Rik,

I'm sorry but I just can't find it. It wasn't in the box of kits I brought up from the basement. I just spent an hour rumaging through my storage and I can not find my Emily kit -which worries me, now!  Sad [:(]

 

 

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  • From: Salisbury Massachucetts USA
Posted by PanzerWulff on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 6:25 PM

Another Japanese flying boat I like is the Shinmiwa (I think i spelled that rightConfused [%-)]) it has nice clean lines to it. Sort of reminds me of the post WWII Martin flying boatsBig Smile [:D]

ACE??? you were NEVER an ace AN ace HOLE maybe! (Lister to Rimmer on BBC's RED DWARF) Chris"Hey GRAVITY still works"Gray
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  • From: Redmond, WA
Posted by bwr1 on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 1:14 PM
 dontsellourskyhawks wrote:

Has anyone built the emily and got pics.  I cant really believe how big it is,  I think a couple were shot down by RNZAF P-40's Im not surprised!

Rik

Here's a build report that might be useful:

http://modelingmadness.com/reviews/axis/j/spahremily.htm

Bruce

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  • From: Redmond, WA
Posted by bwr1 on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 10:30 AM

 Aurora-7 wrote:

Bruce,

Looks like you've got your work cut out for you. It'll look magnificent when it's done, though. What kind of adhesive are you using?

Yup - lots of work but it'll be fun.  For adhesive, the reinforcement strips are glued with testor's tube glue, and the main joints and reinforcement buttresses are testor's thin cement.  I'll probably run a line of superglue on the back side of the wing and fuselage half joints next for further reinforcement - I'm super paranoid about these joints since the plastic is so thin ( I don't like superglue as a main glue for vac kits since it's brittle and can break if the joint flexes).  Epoxy should do for the spar attachment through the fuselage and to the wings, but that'll be a ways off.

Made a little further progress - I had to cut out insert points for horizontal stabilizers in the vertical stabilizer, and after a test fit decided I needed a spar for the horizontal stabilizers as well.  Made that by trimming a square chopstick - it fits perfectly.

I'm inspired by Mike's elevator work on the H-4 so I'm going to cut out the rudder and elevators - I think it'll wind up looking much better.  I think I'll still be able to use the kit parts, so I won't have to do as much work as he did for his.

Bruce

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  • From: Connecticut, USA
Posted by Aurora-7 on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:43 AM
Still have not forgotten. I just did not get to it last night. Sorry it's taking so long but I'll get to it tonight for sure.

Bruce,

Looks like you've got your work cut out for you. It'll look magnificent when it's done, though. What kind of adhesive are you using?

 

 

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  • From: Connecticut, USA
Posted by Aurora-7 on Monday, June 12, 2006 11:05 AM
Hadn't forgotten. Just found the Emily kit this morning. I'll makes scans of the instructions late tonight.

 dontsellourskyhawks wrote:

Thanks for that.  Much appreciated.

Has anyone built the emily and got pics.  I cant really believe how big it is,  I think a couple were shot down by RNZAF P-40's Im not surprised!

Rik

 

 

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Posted by Lucien Harpress on Sunday, June 11, 2006 7:59 PM
Bruce:  I have got so say, that's some of the coolest work I've seen in a while.  The Bv 238 is one of my more favorite German aircraft, and I'm really eager to see it finished.  You look like you've made some awesome progress.

As for me, I hope no one cares, but it's been a long day, and I'm a bit tired.  So instead of retyping another post, here's a link to my progress on my H-4 Hughes Flying Boat.  Enjoy it HERE.
That which does not kill you makes you stranger...
-The Joker
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 9, 2006 6:54 AM

Thanks for that.  Much appreciated.

Has anyone built the emily and got pics.  I cant really believe how big it is,  I think a couple were shot down by RNZAF P-40's Im not surprised!

Rik

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  • From: Connecticut, USA
Posted by Aurora-7 on Thursday, June 8, 2006 11:04 AM
Rik,

I've got one. I'll try to get it to you by this weekend.

 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 8, 2006 5:45 AM

Hi from New Zealand,

Im wondering if anyone has the Hasegawa 1/72 Kawanishi Emily?  Ive just got one second hand and there is no instruction sheets, I would appreciate it if someone could email me a copy.

Many thanks

Rik

 

 

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  • From: Redmond, WA
Posted by bwr1 on Saturday, June 3, 2006 11:27 PM

lerxst1031 - love the pictures of the Beavers.  I live in Seattle, and we get them flying around a lot - there are several companies that run regular service to the islands in Puget Sound.

Update on the Bv238:

I found a book on the Bv238 (in German) a couple of weeks ago - I've ordered a copy and am waiting on working on the engines and float bays until I get that since the reference pictures I've found online aren't very good.  I'm also hoping it'll have pictures of the cockpit.

I've attached the wing tip pieces to the main wing, put the fuselage half halfs (quarters?) together, punched out all the windows, reinforced all of the flimsy parts,  and started the long journey of puttying.

The wings (one wing has its float bay cut out):

The interior of the wing with reinforcing strips made from leftovers when cutting out the parts:

The fuselage halfs.  I'm well on my way to using a gallon of putty - I was in a hurry when I put these together - I screwed up a bit when I made one of the attachments.  You can see the putty required to correct that error.  Must learn to be more patient.

The interior of one fuselage half, with reinforcing strips and flying buttresses to try to fix the sag in the fuselage roof:

And finally, the wing spar cut from balsa.  The picture doesn't show it very well (it's a bit out of focus), but I made a photocopy of the three-view, glued it to a large piece of balsa, and then cut out a spar - the three-view is still attached to the cutout piece.  First time I had tried that, and it worked out pretty well.

Next up until the book arrives is working on the elevators and rudder, and maybe just for the fun of it I'll put on some more putty.

Bruce

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