SEARCH FINESCALE.COM

Enter keywords or a search phrase below:

pearl harbor 2007 thankyou

20040 views
212 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Northern KY
Posted by mucker on Thursday, December 6, 2007 12:47 PM

Very nicely done, Joe. Thank you for that, and for the GB as well. I hope I am able to participate again next year.

 

  • Member since
    September 2011
Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, December 6, 2007 5:54 PM
now as i will be at work tomorow i want to post this.  many thanks to all the members who enter this build.  many thanks to all who contribute in whatever way.  thankyou for making this build special.  for those who are still building i again urge you to finish.  dont let your build hit the unfinished never to finish pile.  

never to be forgotten.




joe

Veterans,

Thank You For Your Sacrifices,

Never To Be Forgotten

Where you can find me:

Workbench on FaceBook  Google Plus  YouTube

gzt
  • Member since
    May 2007
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Friday, December 7, 2007 12:11 AM

Joe:

I tried to get it done tonight but ... enamels need more time to cure Sad [:(]

I will post some pictures tomorrow. My "Miss Kay" is all painted, and tomorrow I will start decals, so hopefully during the Weekend I will put final touch to this kit. I spread this project over four months slowly but surely pushing it forward. A lot of difficult steps for me: first time everything

- scribbing lines

- scratch building

- resin cockpit, UC

- resin modeling 

It was for me a lot of learning during this build and I am glad your GB put me into this challange. 

Making a nice kit out of Monogram/Revell kit is a great experience.

 

Unfortunetely I will post if as GZT1 because my original account is blocked Sign - Oops [#oops] but I am still the same Greg Big Smile [:D]

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

  • Member since
    February 2007
  • From: Casa Grande, Az.
Posted by DesertRat on Friday, December 7, 2007 2:29 AM
Uh Oh! Block? What happened?Shock [:O]

Warmest regards,

Roger

gzt
  • Member since
    May 2007
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Friday, December 7, 2007 8:25 AM

over last few days I am trying to log in and have this kind of problem:

Server Error in '/Customer' Application.


Customer (u: my email address) Guid was blank

Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code.

Exception Details: System.Exception: Customer (u: email) Guid was blank

Source Error:

An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can be identified using the exception stack trace below.


Stack Trace:

 
[Exception: Customer (u: email ) Guid was blank]
   Kalmbach.ECare.Utilities.GetGatewayLoginUrl(String username, String pubCode, String returnUrl) +484
   Kalmbach.ECare.Utilities.GetBackToWebsiteUrl(String pubCode, String returnUrl) +54
 
   Kalmbach.ECare.Utilities.GetBackToWebsiteUrl() +33
   Controls_Header.Page_Load(Object sender, EventArgs e) +54
   System.Web.UI.Control.OnLoad(EventArgs e) +99
 
   System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() +47
   System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() +131
 
   System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() +131
   System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() +131
   System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +1061

 Jon contacted some person at FSM on my behalf, a day after I sent a message  from my new account (gzt1)  and still no resolution. The worst part is: people are sending me PMs and I can not read them Angry [:(!]

I hope it will be resolved or I will have to leave Angry [:(!] this forum  for good,  Since I can not support GB I am responsible for ...

Jug GB

P-40 GB

Hurricane GB

I am just a bit frustrated ....

The bright side is: I did some serious work on my P-40B last night and I hope I will be able to post some picutres here soon Smile [:)]. Today it will be a most difficult part: writing "Miss Kay" on an engine cawling !!  Big Smile [:D]

 

 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

  • Member since
    February 2007
  • From: Casa Grande, Az.
Posted by DesertRat on Friday, December 7, 2007 12:10 PM

Don't blame you for being frustrated. I tell ya, that is a new one for me since i've never seen any problem like that before! The only problems i had had before are sometimes i'll get the "this page cannot be displayed" prompt in times past, but that is just temporary. I'm kinda wondering if the Forum files might have been corrupted or compromised somehow......

   I do hope that they will fix it, and it wont come down to you having to leave.

Warmest regards,

Roger

gzt
  • Member since
    May 2007
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Friday, December 7, 2007 9:37 PM

OK, I am back !

Here is a little update on my P-40B

 

 

 

 

its not finished but pretty close. I hope within next few days it will be done. 

 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Northern KY
Posted by mucker on Friday, December 7, 2007 10:53 PM
Looking great, Greg!

  • Member since
    February 2007
  • From: Casa Grande, Az.
Posted by DesertRat on Friday, December 7, 2007 11:07 PM
Well i commented on the other thread, but she sure is lookin great! I can't say that enough...Cool [8D]

Warmest regards,

Roger

  • Member since
    March 2007
  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Saturday, December 8, 2007 12:45 AM

This is pretty rough and has a ways to go. B-12 attached to the 86th observation group, stationed at Wheeler field. Located at Bellows Field on Sunday morning.

Williams Bros. 1/72 kit. A tribute to the state of technology our armed forces fought from.

I'm afraid we've woken a sleeping giant.

-Admiral Yamamoto

  • Member since
    September 2011
Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, December 8, 2007 8:55 AM

greg and bondoman they both look awesome. 

 

 

 

joe 

Veterans,

Thank You For Your Sacrifices,

Never To Be Forgotten

Where you can find me:

Workbench on FaceBook  Google Plus  YouTube

gzt
  • Member since
    May 2007
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Saturday, December 8, 2007 9:48 AM

Bondoman: it is really nice build. Take your time finishing this one.

I tried to get mine done for Dec 7th but ... it ends up with a bit incorrect brake lines Sad [:(] so, do not rush with yours .... The most important is to finish it well 

Joe: thanks Smile [:)]  

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

  • Member since
    October 2006
  • From: Rochester, NY
Posted by silentmodeler on Sunday, December 9, 2007 1:51 AM

greg and bondoman   superb!!!  what kind of green did you use?  olive drab from model master?  love those color. 

update on my akagi    finally airbrush the deck to white   will be using mask tape to create a lines then will paint it to wood color.  so cross finger.  hopefully i can be done with it before i visit to illinois for xmas. 

bondoman mention:

I'm afraid we've woken a sleeping giant.

-Admiral Yamamoto

im wondering what does he (Yamaoto) mean by awaken the sleeping giant?  Im not very good with qoutes does he mean the american carriers or the mililatry power?  I always thought it mean by the atomic bomb.  let me know thanks smiles.

"Do, do not, theres no try" ~Yoda
  • Member since
    February 2007
  • From: Casa Grande, Az.
Posted by DesertRat on Sunday, December 9, 2007 3:41 AM
 silentmodeler wrote:
  

bondoman mention:

I'm afraid we've woken a sleeping giant.

-Admiral Yamamoto

im wondering what does he (Yamaoto) mean by awaken the sleeping giant?  Im not very good with qoutes does he mean the american carriers or the mililatry power?  I always thought it mean by the atomic bomb.  let me know thanks smiles.

It's a concern about military power. The island country of Japan is volcanic, so therefore they have very limited resources. It was one of the reason Imperial Japan seized control of China and the South Pacific- natural resources. We had all that here, and even during the early 20th century, were pretty industrialized. My thinking (and this is more my viewpoint) is that by attacking Pearl Harbor, Admiral Yamamoto had given Americans the Battle Cry to mobilize the military personnel and resources to a point that would overwhelm Japan. By dragging us into a war, they were correctly concerned that Americans would pose a threat.

   Japan (and most of Americans for that matter) were never aware of the Atomic Bomb until Hirosima. So Yamamoto had no way of knowing.

   If you fancy a bit of readin, i HIGHLY recommend reading Flyboys by James Bradley. I thought it didn't focus on Naval Aviation as much as i would like, but Mr. Bradley goes pretty in depth with the Japanese mentality and state of mind. Gives you a good idea about the intentions and interests of Imperial Japan as well.

   Hope i was able to help you some here. If i made no sense whatsoever, pardon me. It's 1:40 in the AM and i am not quite at 100%

Warmest regards,

Roger

  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Northern KY
Posted by mucker on Sunday, December 9, 2007 12:56 PM
 DesertRat wrote:
 silentmodeler wrote:
  

bondoman mention:

I'm afraid we've woken a sleeping giant.

-Admiral Yamamoto

im wondering what does he (Yamaoto) mean by awaken the sleeping giant?  Im not very good with qoutes does he mean the american carriers or the mililatry power?  I always thought it mean by the atomic bomb.  let me know thanks smiles.

It's a concern about military power. The island country of Japan is volcanic, so therefore they have very limited resources. It was one of the reason Imperial Japan seized control of China and the South Pacific- natural resources. We had all that here, and even during the early 20th century, were pretty industrialized. My thinking (and this is more my viewpoint) is that by attacking Pearl Harbor, Admiral Yamamoto had given Americans the Battle Cry to mobilize the military personnel and resources to a point that would overwhelm Japan. By dragging us into a war, they were correctly concerned that Americans would pose a threat.

   Japan (and most of Americans for that matter) were never aware of the Atomic Bomb until Hirosima. So Yamamoto had no way of knowing.

   If you fancy a bit of readin, i HIGHLY recommend reading Flyboys by James Bradley. I thought it didn't focus on Naval Aviation as much as i would like, but Mr. Bradley goes pretty in depth with the Japanese mentality and state of mind. Gives you a good idea about the intentions and interests of Imperial Japan as well.

   Hope i was able to help you some here. If i made no sense whatsoever, pardon me. It's 1:40 in the AM and i am not quite at 100%

Adding one small point...Admiral Yamamoto had visited the States and had seen first hand our industrial might. INstead of relying on their divine power as a country, which many Japanese felt, he knew we could produce more ships, tanks, airplanes, etc. in a day than the Japanese could destroy and would win in a long, drawn out War. 

gzt
  • Member since
    May 2007
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Sunday, December 9, 2007 5:18 PM

... and an update on my P-40B

 

 

 

 

 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

  • Member since
    September 2011
Posted by fightnjoe on Sunday, December 9, 2007 6:16 PM

greg it looks good. 

 

let me say this about yamamoto and his statement.  as has been said he was concerned that a japanese/us war would only finish in favor of japan if the us was quickly destroyed.  he felt (knew) that once the industry of the us was moving japan could not hope to win.  he also knew that the population of the us would fight japan to the end.  his comment was definite in that the japanese would have to dictate the peace terms from the steps of the white house.  remember he said the japanese navy would run wild for six months then he could not guarentee anything.

 

 

joe 

Veterans,

Thank You For Your Sacrifices,

Never To Be Forgotten

Where you can find me:

Workbench on FaceBook  Google Plus  YouTube

  • Member since
    March 2007
  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Sunday, December 9, 2007 11:14 PM

The enlistment lines in the morning of December 8, 1941 would /should have made Hitler realize all was lost. American isolationism was over.

My favorite movie about Pearl Harbor, based on one of my all time favorite books, which was much better than the flick, is "From Here to Eternity". Esp. the last 15 minutes. It's really important to realize that we fought back with Lewis guns, pie plate helmets, Springfield 30.06 bolt actions and ... P-36's, B-18's, Vindicators and Martin B-12s.

I look forward to a B-18 model.

 

  • Member since
    October 2006
  • From: Rochester, NY
Posted by silentmodeler on Monday, December 10, 2007 2:01 AM

Outstanding on the P40 greg!  and doesnt it comes in big white number on the fuselage?  or it depend on which airfield they are stationed at?  

thank gangs for clearing it up.  I have no knowledge or familiar of mililarty quotes since i always wanted to join the navy since the movie Tora Tora Tora insired (sp) me when i was little boy, but unforturely i cant since Im deaf. At least i can build model and reading all of history on world war 2. Big Smile [:D] 

I have the book fly boys and havent read it yet   now make me curious abt it and i should rent "from here to eternity"   makes me more curious. 

I did visit Pearl Harbor back in summer of 01 with my bro.  always thought it was a big place but didnt realized how small the harbor was and it was very unbelieveable.  Also wish i can visit the ford island but someone told me it was off the limit to visitors. I dont know why. since I want to see the damages on the ground from the bombs that japanese dropped and some bullet holes on the building.  argh.  also see the other sunken ship (Utah) on other side of the ford island. 

again thank gangs.   

"Do, do not, theres no try" ~Yoda
  • Member since
    February 2007
  • From: Casa Grande, Az.
Posted by DesertRat on Monday, December 10, 2007 2:16 AM

No sweat! I think the only reason i know some of the WW2 history i do has to do with my Dad and my Uncle (his brother)sitting in his study discussing tactics, facts, showing off stuff with the occasional arguement (which is entertaining enough when they start talking about "each others mother"Wink [;)]) when i was a kid.

 

Flyboys is really a great read, i think. I do recommend it for the inquiring mind. A word of caution though- it's not for the feint of heart as far as books go. It does also deal with alot of the brutality in gruesome (and repititious detail). But i just finished it a few nights ago, and I have a new found respect for the Imperial Japanese as well as those from the Greatest Generation!Cool [8D]

Warmest regards,

Roger

  • Member since
    March 2007
  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Monday, December 10, 2007 2:26 AM

Here's a pic of the big white numbers, on a P-40 destroyed at Bellows field.

Also, a reminder for this great link:

http://www.airfields-freeman.com/HI/Airfields_HI_Oahu_S.htm

gzt
  • Member since
    May 2007
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Monday, December 10, 2007 9:20 AM

I do not know the number for Miss Kay. Simply could not find any references so I did not put any markings there. If such information comes up, I will definetely place it on this aircraft.

On the other hand I thought that large numbers on both sides of the fuselage were removed sometimes before the war. Also when you look into the picutre of Gabby sitting on this aircraft's wing it does not look as any number is placed there

 

 The number should be visible around his foot area but there is no sign of any ... I think.

I was not sure about the rudder paint, should be there red/white stripes or not? I left it as it is due to other reference I found here:

 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

  • Member since
    September 2011
Posted by fightnjoe on Monday, December 10, 2007 7:03 PM

i am not aware of the number for miss kay.  however the numbers were being changed from on tail black to inline (large fuse) white.  this was in transition at the point of the attack.  only one group (44th i believe) had made the change.  the red and white stripes on the tail had also gone away although some of the bombers still had them. 

 

 

joe 

Veterans,

Thank You For Your Sacrifices,

Never To Be Forgotten

Where you can find me:

Workbench on FaceBook  Google Plus  YouTube

  • Member since
    October 2006
  • From: Rochester, NY
Posted by silentmodeler on Saturday, December 15, 2007 2:33 AM

gtz

i believe there that the red and white stripes on the rudder was removed later in the war but mostly was still there in the early 40s, maybe very late 30s too, (no idea if any of it was on at Pearl Harbor but it had it on the SBDs and TDBs at battle of coral sea i think)  also it do concered as prewar color   such as yellow wings aircrafts. if im wrong   my bad since im too exhausted right now smiles.

Havent start on my carrier yet   too many stuffs to do  prolly wont be done after new year.  but will try my best to complete it.  

"Do, do not, theres no try" ~Yoda
  • Member since
    October 2006
  • From: Rochester, NY
Posted by silentmodeler on Monday, January 21, 2008 1:06 AM

hey gangs

sorry for delaying too long   im almost finish with my akaji carrier.  Ill post up the pictures soon as i can okay??  boy doing the flight deck is the most challange for me since there is no details for it so have to paint it out like i mention it last month.  so bear with me  thanks

"Do, do not, theres no try" ~Yoda
  • Member since
    October 2006
  • From: Rochester, NY
Posted by silentmodeler on Sunday, February 10, 2008 2:09 PM

Hey all

about time!!  heres my pictures of IJN Akaji  but no planes yet  still working on it  almost done cuz 1/700 scale planes are very difficult to paint.  will post the final picutures soon.  sorry took abt two months to compete it.

 

"Do, do not, theres no try" ~Yoda
  • Member since
    October 2006
  • From: Rochester, NY
Posted by silentmodeler on Sunday, February 10, 2008 2:14 PM

oops   hit post by accident

again will post the final pictures soon  

feel free for any comment or feedback

"Do, do not, theres no try" ~Yoda
  • Member since
    September 2011
Posted by fightnjoe on Sunday, February 10, 2008 5:07 PM

looks very sharp joe.  very sharp.

 

 

 

 

joe 

Veterans,

Thank You For Your Sacrifices,

Never To Be Forgotten

Where you can find me:

Workbench on FaceBook  Google Plus  YouTube

  • Member since
    October 2006
  • From: Rochester, NY
Posted by silentmodeler on Saturday, March 1, 2008 3:16 PM

Its finished!   Make a Toast [#toast]  sorry took long since i had to put the computer to hosptial for new drive to be installed (dvd writer)  also had to move pictures from photobucket to new folders since im still new to photobucket.  so here is my finished pictures   enjoy  and feel free for feedback/comments

Joe,   Im glad to join this group build even tho i didnt meet the deadline. 

"Do, do not, theres no try" ~Yoda
  • Member since
    September 2011
Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, March 1, 2008 4:11 PM

by the deadline or not it is a very nice build.  very nice.

 

 

 

 

 

joe 

Veterans,

Thank You For Your Sacrifices,

Never To Be Forgotten

Where you can find me:

Workbench on FaceBook  Google Plus  YouTube

JOIN OUR COMMUNITY!

Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.

SEARCH FORUMS
FREE NEWSLETTER
By signing up you may also receive reader surveys and occasional special offers. We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. View our Privacy Policy.