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The Official P-61 Group Build Thread

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Posted by Gigatron on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 12:33 PM

Sorry to hear about your back, Ross.  I know exactly what you're going through.  I completely destroyed my back a few years ago in a game of paintball.  Hasn't been the same since.  It goes out of whack every now and then for no reason and all it takes is a wrong turn to lay me up for a few days.

-Fred

 

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Posted by Triarius on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 12:46 PM

Fred, for me it's anything from a few days (no biggie) to a few weeks. This is going to happen periodically for the rest of my life. From the sound of it, you too. Grumpy [|(]

Just remember: Pain is the universe telling you that you're not dead yet!  Thumbs Up [tup]

Ross Martinek A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink

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Posted by Gigatron on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 1:59 PM

Yup, the back is one of those things that never fully heals.  All you can do is be careful and learn what an oncoming spasm feels like to hopefully avert it.

Pain may be the universe's way of telling you you're not dead, but it's also it's way of sometimes making you wish you were.

I've had back spasms that felt like a dull pain to a kick in the jewels to full-on vomit inducing.  It's bad when a back spasm can make you lose your lunch.

-Fred

 

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Posted by bostonbruins34 on Sunday, April 6, 2008 8:39 PM
Is it too late to jump in?? I have a P-61 that I was about 75% finished but dismantled it because I wasn't happy with the scheme I chose (black instead of olive drab) so I was going to start with a teardown and repaint. I have it torn down to nothing but body, wings and nacelles. I had a great idea for a what if...I'd love to join with my "what if?" build...
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Posted by Gigatron on Monday, April 7, 2008 7:23 AM

Go ahead BB34.  It would be nice to see someone build one of these things Laugh [(-D]

-Fred

 

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Posted by Dark Green Man on Wednesday, April 9, 2008 5:34 PM

I'm still here, Fred.

just haven't done much with it, though.

been busy trying to finish up projects that are 'almost done' to get them off the workbench so I can get to these group builds.

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Posted by raptordriver on Wednesday, June 4, 2008 7:38 PM
Gee, its not even close to being over, I think this has been forgotten! I am going to start on mine very soon!

Andrew

 

 

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Posted by Gigatron on Sunday, June 8, 2008 9:47 PM

C'mon guys - where's all the enthusiasm that was here at the beginning?

Gets t'buildin' Laugh [(-D]

-Fred

 

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Posted by Triarius on Sunday, June 8, 2008 10:23 PM
 Gigatron wrote:

C'mon guys - where's all the enthusiasm that was here at the beginning?

Gets t'buildin' Laugh [(-D]

-Fred

Soon as I get the oak tree off my house…Shock [:O]

Actually, it's off, all the leaks are temporarily patched, and some of the wood is cut, split, and stacked in the newly expanded wood rick.

I've promised myself that this week will be all writing and building…except for cutting the grass if it ever stops raining… If it doesn't stop pretty soon, I'll have to use the chainsaw on the grass!Laugh [(-D]

Ross Martinek A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink

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Posted by sf_plane_nut on Friday, June 13, 2008 9:07 AM
i havent forgotten about it...this sucker stares at me from the painting station every time i sit down...i still need to get some decals for the A version i am doing...

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Posted by sanderson_91 on Friday, June 13, 2008 7:58 PM
I'm still here too!  I've got the Verlinden engine together but need to wire it up - I can't decide whether or not to use the PE wiring or build my own wiring harness (leaning towards my own).  I'm also thinking about how much of the engine to show - I'm having a tough time finding clear pictures of the engine mount.  I'd like to show everything back to the firewall, but need to keep searching for references. 

 

 

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Posted by Triarius on Saturday, June 14, 2008 10:03 AM
Steve, The WarbirdTECH series, volume 15 on the P-61, has an exploded line drawing that gives a pretty good view of the engine mount. That's all I have—I'm sure there are better references out there (probably out of print Sad [:(]).

Ross Martinek A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink

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Posted by sanderson_91 on Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:48 PM

Ross,

Thanks for the lead - I actually found this Warbird Tech book at the LHS today and picked it up.  I think that this will help out a lot.  I also found the Mid Atlantic Air Museum's web site which also had some great photos of their restoration project.  Here's their web address.   http://www.maam.org/p61.html

Steve

 

 

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Posted by raptordriver on Wednesday, August 6, 2008 3:12 PM

A serious bump for this Group build, I started a couple days ago, and so far there has been really bad fit problems, I sculpted almost with squadron white putty here it is

DSCF2291.jpg picture by Raptor94

DSCF2290.jpg picture by Raptor94

If theres any interest all comments welcome

Andrew

 

 

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Posted by sanderson_91 on Wednesday, August 6, 2008 7:46 PM

Andrew,

Ouch!  That looks like a really bad fit.  If you're using the top turret at least a portion of it will be less visible.  I had a poor fit there as well but it was not that bad.  The worst fit on my build so far has been right in front of the instrument panel. 

I haven't worked on this build is a while - can't decide on whether or not to expose an engine or not.  I've built a Verlinden engine but am not really happy with it.  I bought some QuickBoost engines that look really nice so I will probably go that route.

Steve

 

 

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Posted by raptordriver on Wednesday, August 6, 2008 8:58 PM
Steve, yes the fit is bad, but I really think the squadron putty wiped down with acetone works great.   I am going to cover up the engines, I always build my planes so they look like there ready to take off.

Andrew

 

 

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Posted by Gigatron on Thursday, August 7, 2008 9:07 AM

Holy Moly does this mean people are actually still working on these things?  I had given up hope of ever seeing another one completed Laugh [(-D].

-Fred

 

 

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Posted by Triarius on Thursday, August 7, 2008 9:46 AM
Think "glacial" Fred… Laugh [(-D]

Ross Martinek A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink

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Posted by raptordriver on Friday, August 8, 2008 9:31 PM

Progress, I glued on the wings, landing gear, and more interior pieces.

DSCF2335.jpg picture by Raptor94

DSCF2336.jpg picture by Raptor94

Andrew

 

 

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Posted by bostonbruins34 on Monday, August 18, 2008 7:58 PM
December 19, 1944 422nd Night Fighter squadron reports a P-61 Black Widow went missing over Germany. Plane was last sighted with heavy damage to rear fuselage but had landing gear down for emergency landing. Heavy anti-aircraft fire prohibited further search and rescue operations........December 1944 German propaganda reports capturing top secret radar device from crashed airplane. Hitler himself says "das ist der Schlüssel zum Sieg" or the "key to victory..."
Can anyone guess where this is going???
The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, "I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it." Group Build
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Posted by bostonbruins34 on Friday, August 22, 2008 6:54 AM
December 1944...The Lufwaffe announces a new plane to help combat the night bombers and quickly attempt to mass produce the Nachtjäger...  
Allied forces are suprised at what the Luftwaffe has produced...
The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, "I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it." Group Build
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Posted by bondoman on Saturday, August 23, 2008 2:19 AM

The group of pilots that flew the -widow, including my other dad, pretty much are proud that no one was ever shot down by another a/c. He was thrown' about, kinda, in early '45, but thru a long and arduous fight home, avoided same. Seems that the pilot was beheaded by a 37mm in the Brenner Pass on the way to bomb trains, and "dad" crawled forward, took over the controls and flew in and then back out. Didn't bail out because the RO in the back was in shock, from the impact of the shell.

He had one victory in the P-61, and quite a few earlier in the Beaufighter. i have pictures I might share.

 

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Posted by bostonbruins34 on Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:58 AM
I hope I didn't offend...I was just putting in a bit 'o fiction to "create" a storyline!!!  I was so aggravated with the model I actually tore it apart and decided to do a what if...What do you think so far??    :)  I'd love for you to share your pictures!!!
The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, "I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it." Group Build
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Posted by bondoman on Sunday, August 24, 2008 12:14 AM

Oh no, no offense and I'm just adding to your story. The P-61 is a rare and strange airframe and I really like your project.

I'll get up the piccy's.

Thing is, the one model available is a nightmare.

 

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Posted by Gigatron on Sunday, August 24, 2008 10:25 AM

No, it would be an improvement if it were a nightmare Laugh [(-D]

It's almost as if they engineered the kit so that no two pieces would go together.  Imagine if one company had purchased 1000 different puzzles and then took one piece from each puzzle and put it in a box and then said "here, you try to put this together" - that's what we got with this thing Laugh [(-D]

-Fred

 

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Posted by Aggieman on Sunday, August 24, 2008 5:06 PM

Howdy everyone!  I've actually been working on this group build for the last 2 weeks or so and have made some decent progress.  I do not have any photos to post at this point, which I suppose is unusual for me since I typically photograph all stages of work.  Anyway, I have buttoned up the crew compartment and applied a generous coat of putty to conceal the rather sizable gaps and am now test fitting the windscreens and canopies.  Talk about horrible fit!

Does anyone know if there are any aftermarket pieces for this kit (the venerable old Monogram kit)? I've done a search at Squadron but found nothing.  If nothing exists then I will just persevere through this horrid molding.

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Posted by Gigatron on Sunday, August 24, 2008 5:59 PM

Hey Steve,

LoneStar Models makes a resin cockpit and radar operator's station.  I know someone also makes PE, resin guns, replacement open cowl, replacement engines and wheels.  I got them from Hannants in the UK (I think it's www.hannants.co.uk).  They were the only place that carried all the AM parts.

Looking forward to pics, if you ever post'em Wink [;)] Laugh [(-D]

-Fred

 

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Posted by bostonbruins34 on Sunday, August 24, 2008 8:05 PM
The Luftwaffe is almost ready to fly it's version of the P-61...I'm having a bit of a time finding correct scale decals...Sigh [sigh] The ones I were going to use say they are correct scale but the wing decals look SOOOO small...
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Posted by raptordriver on Sunday, August 24, 2008 8:50 PM
 Aggieman wrote:

Howdy everyone!  I've actually been working on this group build for the last 2 weeks or so and have made some decent progress.  I do not have any photos to post at this point, which I suppose is unusual for me since I typically photograph all stages of work.  Anyway, I have buttoned up the crew compartment and applied a generous coat of putty to conceal the rather sizable gaps and am now test fitting the windscreens and canopies.  Talk about horrible fit!

Does anyone know if there are any aftermarket pieces for this kit (the venerable old Monogram kit)? I've done a search at Squadron but found nothing.  If nothing exists then I will just persevere through this horrid molding.

I think you need to check squadron again

http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=RM7546

if you scroll down you can find the aftermarket stuff. Hope this helps.

Andrew

 

 

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Posted by raptordriver on Sunday, August 24, 2008 8:51 PM
I think its looking really nice so far bostonThumbs Up [tup]

Andrew

 

 

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