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DML E-100 and Maus in 1/35th

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Posted by Shellback on Sunday, April 17, 2011 9:23 PM

Thanks Marc , Much appreciated ! 

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Posted by wing_nut on Sunday, April 17, 2011 2:26 PM

Carl, that is a bodacious set of ta...er... tanksWink  They look gtreat.  And this some sierra hotel ambush camo.

Marc  

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Posted by Shellback on Saturday, April 16, 2011 7:59 PM

Maj and Eric , thanks again .Good to know you like it either way !

Doog , thanks for the help . It'll be fun trying out your methods! I'll let you know when i use your technique on my next panzer camo .It wont be a copy but i'll incorperate your idea's.

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Posted by the doog on Saturday, April 16, 2011 2:43 PM

Carl, my participation here is intended to share and inspire. Feel free to use the techniques I use--they've all been handed down to me for the most part any way by all the people who inspired me!

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Posted by tigerman on Saturday, April 16, 2011 1:58 PM

Win-win either way.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by MAJ Mike on Saturday, April 16, 2011 1:54 PM

Golly gosh, either way it looks good to me.

 

 

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Posted by Shellback on Saturday, April 16, 2011 1:53 PM

Well i over did the color editing on the photo's . I liked the way the colors came out after editing but you guys saw my mistakes .

Here's what the finished E-100 looked like before i edited the photo

and after editing ....................

Does the "before" look better ?

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Posted by MAJ Mike on Saturday, April 16, 2011 1:26 PM

disastermaster

 MAJ Mike:

The MM enamel dunkelgerb comes out really green.  Haven't experimented with any mixes to make it more of a yellow/tan, but i'm open to anyone's suggestions on proprotions to mix,

I like the MM color line except they don't seem to be the colors we've become accustomed to.

 

 

 A 50-50 mix of MM enamel Light Gray/Panzer Dunkelgelb. That's MMPanzer Dunkelgelb #2095 and Light Gray #FS 36495.

                                                 http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/gluetank/Animated/th_1-Animated-Disastermaster.gif?t=1296616998

 

I will certainly try that,  Thanks.

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!"

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Posted by Shellback on Saturday, April 16, 2011 1:11 PM

Josiah , thanks !

I cant find a very good selection of MM paints locally , nor any Tamiya paints so i'll order what i need from on line .

Doog i do have some Tamiya thinner but i've been rationing it , need to order more.............I'll give it a try next time i spray Tamiya . I do get better results with Tamiya paints when it comes to really fine spraying of camo edges . Interesting results you get with your techniques .....warning , i may adapt them into my work .Yes

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Posted by the doog on Saturday, April 16, 2011 9:09 AM

Shellback

Doog , thanks for taking the time to share all of your info with me !  I have a good paint job to use you weathering ideas on , when i get around to weathering it i'll post some pictures .

Your E-100 is a beaut !

What are using to thin your acrlics ?

Thanks 

Thanks, Carl; I'm always eager to help!

I use Tamiya acrylic thinner exclusively for Tamiya paints. It just works the best, period. But you can also use rubbing alcohol (Isopropyl alcohol) or even a 50-50 water/iso alco mix. I just like the way that it sprays withthe real thing.

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Posted by disastermaster on Friday, April 15, 2011 11:29 PM

MAJ Mike

The MM enamel dunkelgerb comes out really green.  Haven't experimented with any mixes to make it more of a yellow/tan, but i'm open to anyone's suggestions on proprotions to mix,

I like the MM color line except they don't seem to be the colors we've become accustomed to.

 

 A 50-50 mix of MM enamel Light Gray/Panzer Dunkelgelb. That's MMPanzer Dunkelgelb #2095 and Light Gray #FS 36495.

                                                 http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/gluetank/Animated/th_1-Animated-Disastermaster.gif?t=1296616998

 

 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by MAJ Mike on Friday, April 15, 2011 11:13 PM

The MM enamel dunkelgerb comes out really green.  Haven't experimented with any mixes to make it more of a yellow/tan, but i'm open to anyone's suggestions on proprotions to mix,

I like the MM color line except they don't seem to be the colors we've become accustomed to.

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!"

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Friday, April 15, 2011 10:23 PM

These look fantastic shell, can't wait to see 'em weathered!

 

-Josiah

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Posted by Shellback on Friday, April 15, 2011 9:04 PM

Doog , thanks for taking the time to share all of your info with me !  I have a good paint job to use you weathering ideas on , when i get around to weathering it i'll post some pictures .

Your E-100 is a beaut !

What are using to thin your acrlics ?

Thanks 

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Posted by Shellback on Friday, April 15, 2011 8:59 PM

Doog , i appreciate your response and the fact that you took the time to share all of that info on your techniques with me . I agree the  dunkelgelb is over dark . My photo editing contributed to that .

About the airbrushing , whats a good thinner for acrylics ?

I looked at your E-100 , its a beaut !

When i get around to weathering it i'll post some pictures .

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Posted by Shellback on Friday, April 15, 2011 8:42 PM

Gun Tech

Hey Shell, these are great looking schemes my "fiend" Wink

I really dig the ambush scheme on that E-100. You did this a few years ago??? 

Can't wait to see the outcome.

LOL "fiend " Yes

Havent even touched them with any weathering yet , might be a while . I have a puppy to house train so i'kll be busy with that for a while . Good to hear from you .

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Posted by Shellback on Friday, April 15, 2011 8:38 PM

That sounds kewl Maj . I saw one of these done in overall panzergrau , no other camo ,  and i thought it looked better than a overall my dunklegelb and braun .

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, April 14, 2011 9:04 AM

Shellback

Thank you !

Yes , the camo was sprayed freehand using Tamiya paints sprayed thru a Badger 150 double action .  The biggest hurdle to work around was that the paint dried and built up in the nozzle on the end of the needle . I had to constantly clean it with lacquer thinner .

That's a sign that you didn't thin your mixture enough.

As far as the finish, both models are really nicely painted. The ambush scheme on the E100 is perfectly done, and the Maus' intricate lines are very competently painted. No complaints there.

As far as the weathering goes, here's my take on it. This may or may not help you now, but may give you something to use for the future?

In my opinion and modeling methods, you should try to start your weathering WITH the basic base coat. I'm a huge proponent of what is known as "Scale Effect"-styled painting. What that basically means in figuring into your base coat the effect that an object as huge as a real, 1:1 tank is going to have on light diffusion, and therefore, your eyes' perception of the actual perceived color.

In my opinion, your base coat of the Tamiya Dark Yellow is much too dark. It looks like you sprayed it right out of the bottle, which is much too dark. Most German armor modelers that I know generally agree upon a ration of at least 50-50 White (or Buff)-to-Dark Yellow. You should have a light tan color, which will darken even more with a standard raw umber wash. I go even further and add about an 80-20% White-D. Yellow "highlighting" coat (also called "post-shading) over the initial, diluted coat to give a very light, sunbleached look to the finish.

Here's a link to my E100 finished in this method. This page is the coat without weathering; in the next page, the finished results with weathering, You can see in the camo that there is post-fading in the camo scheme.

The weathering can be done in stages, with any number of methods. Here is my Hetzer weathering tutorial, which is good for Dark Yellow German models. Notice the shade of Dark Yellow in this case--nearly a bright tan, but notice how it darkens in the subsequent stages. This is also available as a Finescale back issue in the December 2008 as a full article.

You might also check out the June 2010 issue in which I did an article on using MIG filters to modify and weather an SDKFZ 251 here.

 

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Posted by Gun Tech on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 8:57 PM

Hey Shell, these are great looking schemes my "fiend" Wink

I really dig the ambush scheme on that E-100. You did this a few years ago??? 

Can't wait to see the outcome.

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by Gun Tech on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 8:55 PM

Hey Shell, these are great looking schemes my "fiend" Wink

I really dig the ambush scheme on that E-100. You did this a few years ago??? 

Can't wait to see the outcome.

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by MAJ Mike on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 8:29 PM

Your post on the Maus inspired me to do my own Maus for the Odd Animals GB.  Looks like a simple build except for the tracks.  Plan to do a scheme like in the kit -- panzergrau with brown and green.

 

 

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Posted by Shellback on Thursday, March 31, 2011 12:06 PM

Thanks for the comments !

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Posted by deafpanzer on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 7:37 PM

Outstanding work! Yes Loved the camo on E-100. 

Andy

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Posted by Shellback on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 10:47 AM

Thank you !

Yes , the camo was sprayed freehand using Tamiya paints sprayed thru a Badger 150 double action .  The biggest hurdle to work around was that the paint dried and built up in the nozzle on the end of the needle . I had to constantly clean it with lacquer thinner .

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Posted by IBuild148 on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 10:42 PM

WOW! YesI like them both. That ambush camo is superb! Did you free hand the pattern or use a hand made stencil of some kind?

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Posted by Shellback on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:48 PM

Thanks for the kind words Gents !

And a special "Hey Ogre"  

Both kits were easy to build  .........except for the tracks which are the individual link type . Mostly its the monotiny of the repetition while cleaning each link.

  

Getting them wrapped around the rear and front sprockets after they are painted ( without damage ) is a hair pulling experience (and i'm bald )....(now)LOL .

 I left off the top run , they are under the fenders/skirts and cant be seen .

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Posted by dood_dood on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:10 PM

Both look great to me, especially the ambush.  I agree that light weathering is in order for the follwoing reasons:

1.  Both are protoypes, would surely be spiffed up for show-off before mass production would begin.

2.  Don't obscure your fantastic camo jobs!  HATS OFF!Yes

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Posted by ogrejohn on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 5:45 PM

Hey Shell! A couple of nice looking builds. Yep, they'll look much better after you weather them up some.

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Posted by spadx111 on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:08 PM

Yes nice job.

Ron

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