Drybrushing over Panzer Gray?

And the winner is...DUNKELGRAU!

Thanks Karl for chiming in about the tan. I was hoping it'd work since I was really happy with the results I've gotten on allied armor, and it definitely adds in some warm tones to counteract the bluish cast coming off the straight paint job (especially now that the white blotches are in place).

Be sure to share your results. I for one will be keen to see how it comes out. I haven't done a Pz Grey scheme for years and certainly not since i started weathering seriously.

Karl - excellent! Thanks much! 

I think for starters I may try a mix of Pz. Schwarzgrau and Dunkelgrau, then adjust if it's too stark or too subtle. 

I do mix the white oil with enamel paint, and so far haven't found it a problem. But my next armour build is a Pz Grey 251. I was planning on giving it some heavy dusting, so i may try that suggestion when dry brushing.

Bish

I always thought the idea of dry brushing was to add lighter tones of the base colour. I just use the colour i painted the kit in then add a touch of white oil paint.  Short of that, i would have no idea.

Use tan over Dark Gray. A good light dirt color can work too. Lightening anything "gray" always tended to look either too blue, too light, too unrealistic for my taste. However, a tan drybrushing gives you a nice light-weathering look that looks appropriate for these gray panzers which spent a lt of time in the dusty summer months of either France or the East.

Hey Doogs, I don't think you can really go wrong with a whitened base colour or lighter shade of a different gray. The amount of paint is minimal anyways, and just highlights edges/ pronounced details, which would vary under differing light conditions. I have used gray on Russian armour green on my su-100 build and a yellowy-green on Russian armour green for my kv-1 build with, what I thought were good results. You are good at experimenting!

Bish - I picked up the dunkelgrau tip from an FSM article that ran last fall. 

Dre - From what I've gathered of the particular Panzer I'm building, they arrived "fresh off the train" near Leningrad in October or November 1941. After a heavily-weathered Pz.IV, I'm doing this one more pristine. Not much wear or fading. Only drybrushing to add a bit of depth and slight amount of wear. 

You could try a primer red in certain wear areas to get a different look....

I will be keen to hear what suggestions you get. Dry brushing used to be all the weathering i did, but never thought about useing other colours. I got my methods from a Tony Greenland article in a very old FSM, so maybe time to learn something new.

Well, I picked up a bottle of MM Panzer Schwarzgrau at the LHS today. It's a somewhat lighter shade than the Lifecolor, so I'm hopeful that'll work.

Bish

I always thought the idea of dry brushing was to add lighter tones of the base colour. I just use the colour i painted the kit in then add a touch of white oil paint.  Short of that, i would have no idea.

Well, on my allied armor, I use dunkelgrau, and it plays very well with OD. 

Just not sure how to handle this really dark gray. Still have the white and markings to go before I reach that stage, though...

I always thought the idea of dry brushing was to add lighter tones of the base colour. I just use the colour i painted the kit in then add a touch of white oil paint.  Short of that, i would have no idea.

and now i see you don't want to lighten your panzer gray.  dang.  sorry.  well... that's what i would try anyway. 

on some scrap you could try adding a bit of "neutral gray" to your panzer gray and see how that goes on.  at least the color won't be shifted warm or cold... i think.

andy