New stuff from Dragon coming out of Nuremberg...

wbill76

 Bish, sadly I think the 251-A will never see production...although you never know for sure. Some of the kits they've announced from that same period took a long time (like the Pz III-E) but did get produced eventually. Personally I'm still waiting for the Ostwind they announced a year ago to get its turn but have heard it is hung up due to research issues....so who knows?

Afraid i have to agree with you. Same goes for the 251/9 Ausf C. Guess i will have to do some conversions. I have been waiting for the Ostwind as well, but hasn't it been over 2 years. But nice to see that its not been forgotten.

the doog

Hmmmph! I just ordered the Trumpeter Waffentrager....looks like I"ll have to get the DML one too!

(got a thang for waffentragers.....! )

Well they are different. Yours is a 128mm version with extra roadwheels and Dragon's is an 88mm version.

That M3 Lee has been taunting me for a while now.

I always love the new stuff anyone does.  As far as Dragons planned releases, I can wait.  I've got plenty, over 2,000 to do, so no hurry.  I as well got the Tasca Jumbo, and built it a while ago.  I'm sure the Dragon one will be neat, but I can give my wallet a rest on that purchase.  And the Ostwind will be nice.  I heard that there were research issues also.  I'm sure that they are aware of the complaints they would get if it isn't just right.  And if they had anything wrong some would complain that they rushed it.   Maybe they bring some of this on themselves, but, Wow, I'm always happy with everything they do.  So I built the Italeri Ostwind, just in case.  I also just finished the Dragon Neubaufahrzeug, the 3 to 5 version.  Nice easy build.  Certainly looks like one to me.  Haven't seen the Amusing hobby one locally yet, and don't feel the need to order one... yet.

So it's good.  Looking forward the to the WaffenTraeger also.  I love those SPs.  But I'm easy.  Shucky darns, I even got the Zvezda 251 ausf B together,  just to have one before the Dragon A comes out.

Plastic addict

Doug

Shopping list is ready

Dragon

G4 Partisanenwagen
Armored 1/4ton 4x4 Truck w/.50cal Machine Gun

ICM

35462 Krupp L3H163 Kfz.72

35475 Kapitän Saloon WWII German Staff Car

35525 L1500A (Kfz.70), WWII German Personnel Car

Trumpter
82491 German Sd.Kfz.254 Tracked Armoured Scout Car

Hmmmph! I just ordered the Trumpeter Waffentrager....looks like I"ll have to get the DML one too!

(got a thang for waffentragers.....! )

Mikeym_us

I'd like to see Dragon tackle a M4 "Calliope" Sherman with the MLRS launchers on the turret. Only Revell and Italeri ever tackled that subject in 1/35 scale. 

The minute you finish building one, they will announce a new mold. Happened to me with the Marder III H.

I'd like to see Dragon tackle a M4 "Calliope" Sherman with the MLRS launchers on the turret. Only Revell and Italeri ever tackled that subject in 1/35 scale. 

I do believe that is part of Dragon's marketing strategy: to announce a release so you will buy or consider theirs over the competitors

Eric,

If they follow their usual pattern, the pre-zim usually follows 6-12 months after the non-zim kit. Then the non-zim kit can usually be had for very good sale prices depending.

They are also redoing the short-barrel StuGs starting with the E and slowly redoing all the old Imperial kits for that matter in the Pz III line...so patience will see Smart Kits of all of them eventually I imagine.

Bish, sadly I think the 251-A will never see production...although you never know for sure. Some of the kits they've announced from that same period took a long time (like the Pz III-E) but did get produced eventually. Personally I'm still waiting for the Ostwind they announced a year ago to get its turn but have heard it is hung up due to research issues....so who knows?

Bish

I have given up waiting for DML's new releases. I have been waiting for their 251 Ausf A for nearly 3 years now. So i won't be holding my breath.

And the Jumbo Sherman.... I went ahead and got the Tasca one but i'd really like to see Dragon do one. They threw the box art out there to steal some of Tasca's thunder and have yet to make good... :(

I have given up waiting for DML's new releases. I have been waiting for their 251 Ausf A for nearly 3 years now. So i won't be holding my breath.

It'll be interesting to see where Dragon goes with the G after this guy. Pre-zimmed or ???

DML is smart to label it's new kit (if that's the one you're talking about) with features relevant to a Dec '43 production set of changes as those are the ones that are most prominent in the form of the changed schurzen (triangular teeth mounts and mono-rail) and casemate armor and roof layouts...so continuing on the theme of "modeler speak" it would place it in the window of "Late-Early" (have to remember the StuG III G had a remarkably long production run from Nov '42-April '45) as the next batch of features came in the April-May '44 period would make it a "Late-Mid" and the "Late-Final" set of features (as in the Imperial kit) appear in the Oct-Dec '44 period. The intro of StuG features has almost as complex a history as those added for Tigers or Panthers!

wbill76

Eric,

Ok, this is where things get tricky because we are using a "modeler" designation instead of an actual designation...you have to define what set of features you mean by "late" as the StuG III G production continued to receive modifications to the end of '44 and appear unevenly in production into '45 as a result.

Generally speaking, the Imperial #9014 represents a "final" configuration and is still the only DML kit out there that has the remote roof-top MG mount and revised roof hatches, those were introduced in April-May '44 and onward. It also features IIRC the saukopf mantlet with the coaxial MG port which was introduced in Oct '44 and the heavy duty tow-bar introduced in Dec '44and  therefore post-zim timeframe.

I see. The most obvious (to my eyes) was the remote machine-gun on the roof. I figured it may have come post-zimmerit, but wasn't sure. So Dragon's kit is a Late-Late version?

hmmmm i cant decide which one i'd rather have: the T-34 or the long barreled Stug. III

Eric,

Ok, this is where things get tricky because we are using a "modeler" designation instead of an actual designation...you have to define what set of features you mean by "late" as the StuG III G production continued to receive modifications to the end of '44 and appear unevenly in production into '45 as a result.

Generally speaking, the Imperial #9014 represents a "final" configuration and is still the only DML kit out there that has the remote roof-top MG mount and revised roof hatches, those were introduced in April-May '44 and onward. It also features IIRC the saukopf mantlet with the coaxial MG port which was introduced in Oct '44 and the heavy duty tow-bar introduced in Dec '44and  therefore post-zim timeframe.

wbill76

I'm happy to see the StuG III G saukopf (topfblende) make its appearance...I've been expecting it ever since they did the StuG IV. Since they elected to do a Dec '43 production version you know that means a pre-zimmed variant will be forthcoming too.

You read my mind Bill. That's kind of what I'm holding off on.

Question: When did the StuG III G Late begin production? That's kind f what I was looking for. I know they have the older Imperial kit #9014, but if zim is called for then perhaps I want a pre-zimmed kit.

Wondering, might it be possible, Trumpeter will offer the 88cm Flak 41 on chassis Selbstfahrlafette IVc  ???

I'm happy to see the StuG III G saukopf (topfblende) make its appearance...I've been expecting it ever since they did the StuG IV. Since they elected to do a Dec '43 production version you know that means a pre-zimmed variant will be forthcoming too.

I hear you Tigerman... there are so many other things they could do. All manner of ARVs that have not been covered in plastic. I have the Tiger Models bergpanther conversion but i've been dying for Dragon to do one in plastic. There are still oodles of Sherman variants and piles and piles of Allied trucks and such that could be done...

It's a good time to be a modeler but some of these subjects are getting tiresome i'll agree... The Sexton is a great one though!

Well, can't say I'm blown away, but they've got to be running out of ideas. I've been waiting for a true 1943 T-34. not sure that's what I was looking for.

Thanks Tony!

Roy, Thanks for adding those to the list. Some exciting stuff...

Manny and other crybabies that are too lazy to copy and paste, Hot link has been added...

A hot-link woulda been nice...

Rednecks like Sextons too

Still waiting on the Jadgpanzer IV L/70 (A)?????? Read it might be sometime in OCT.

Thanks for the tip Kenny Boy

Tony lee

Some non-dragon announcements in 1/35 injection:

Trumpeter hard top Stalinetz tractor
Trumpeter 88 FlaK Selbsfahrlafette
Hobby Boss Toldi Hungarian tank
Hobby Boss Saurer SdKfz 254

Yoweeee!