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Wirbelwind---FINISHED PICS! pg 7

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, January 9, 2014 8:00 PM

Wayne, thanks for relating your experiences---it's good to know that you're pushing your own boundaries and improving through bold steps where you're not fearing he possibility of potential failure---sometimes you have to risk big to get the best lessons and results! Can't wait to see your new build!

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Posted by waynec on Thursday, January 9, 2014 2:59 PM

the doog

!I also teach guitar, and I think the "lemme show you how to do this" thing is just in my blood, lol. When you have that kind of "thing", there's nothing more rewarding than to hear that someone else is learning or taking something away from what you're trying to share---so thank you sincerely!

this quote was not directed at me but it fits. you turned into a oil wash junkie. just finished UN UNIMOG and weathered all of it with oils, even mixing colors, no powders or pastels just to try it. the weathering arsenal grows and 3 THE WEATHERING MAGAZINEs are due in this week.

and it all started with a suggestion (BRDM-2) which turned into a finishing disaster but with enough encouragement and patience and determination it came out rather nicely and certainly unique.

Никто не Забыт    (No one is Forgotten)
Ничто не Забыто  (Nothing is Forgotten)

 

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, January 9, 2014 8:56 AM

spacepacker

Regards the mud spattering, did you not do a blog where you blew thro' the bristles with an airbrush?

Had you forgotten?

Any how....................I'm Gobsmacked!!!!!...cheers....Kenny

Big Smile lol, thanks, Kenny!

Yes, I often change up my methods and am experimenting with ways to do different things. I guess I try not to follow too much of a "strict method", as it can make your models look rather "cookie cutter" if you don't change things up and experiment. You CAN blow "spatter" from a brush by using the airstream from your airbrush though. But always experiment first and practice against a sheet of paper so you can see the dispersion pattern and breadth of spray. Smile

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, January 9, 2014 8:47 AM

enodaed

STUNNER!!!! You are constantly inspiring me to improve my own builds. I might not be to your level yet but I keep practicing. I also appreciate your willingness to share and teach. Thanks for that and I can't wait to see the next one. Cheers...

enodaed, thank you for the enthusiasm and the very kind words!I also teach guitar, and I think the "lemme show you how to do this" thing is just in my blood, lol. When you have that kind of "thing", there's nothing more rewarding than to hear that someone else is learning or taking something away from what you're trying to share---so thank you sincerely!

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, January 9, 2014 8:38 AM

Thanks so much, RBaer! And you too, Mike! Thanks for taking the time to comment and for the kind words!

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Posted by spacepacker on Thursday, January 9, 2014 3:08 AM

Regards the mud spattering, did you not do a blog where you blew thro' the bristles with an airbrush?

Had you forgotten?

Any how....................I'm Gobsmacked!!!!!...cheers....Kenny

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Posted by enodaed on Wednesday, January 8, 2014 10:30 AM

STUNNER!!!! You are constantly inspiring me to improve my own builds. I might not be to your level yet but I keep practicing. I also appreciate your willingness to share and teach. Thanks for that and I can't wait to see the next one. Cheers...

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  • From: New Jersey
Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 7:27 PM

Karl - As usual the Master of the Finish...love it and love the tips you give along the way....as usual

Fantastic

Rounds Complete!!

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  • From: Dripping Springs, TX, USA
Posted by RBaer on Monday, January 6, 2014 9:55 AM

Schweet! I like the splattering, well executed.

Apprentice rivet counter.

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Posted by the doog on Sunday, January 5, 2014 8:11 AM

Thank you for those sentiments, Wayne! :)

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  • From: Denver, Colorado
Posted by waynec on Saturday, January 4, 2014 8:48 PM

sweet build karl.

good luck with the move etal.

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  • From: California
Posted by SprueOne on Saturday, January 4, 2014 6:03 PM

I'm always learning new techs from your BLogs, Bro. 

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Posted by the doog on Saturday, January 4, 2014 4:36 PM

Thanks, Bill! I hope to have an enjoyable time away and then come home to a great new house and life! I appreciate it!

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  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Friday, January 3, 2014 3:56 PM

Very nice finish on this one Karl! Beer Best of luck over the next few months and hope you can squeeze in some bench time here and there in between!

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Posted by the doog on Friday, January 3, 2014 1:10 PM

Actually, I have that CMK kit too--I got it years ago when it was the only game in town. I'll sell it ebay one of these days. Pretty chunky compared to the new DML kits.

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  • From: Kincheloe Michigan
Posted by Mikeym_us on Thursday, January 2, 2014 9:29 PM

I've got both the CMK and Italeri Ostwind kits and only the Italeri kit has a rudimentary interior. If I was going to build that one I'll need to get ahold of more 37mm ammo cans to line the sides of the bulkheads.

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, January 2, 2014 8:35 PM

I think I've seen that photo? It may have been during prototype building? If I were doing one of these in a diorama, abandoned, I might do an interior, but like you said--you can't really see anything so I couldn't see putting the effort in it just to hide it. A lot of kits today with the interiors are like that.

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Thursday, January 2, 2014 8:18 PM

Mikeym_us

Karl if you build this kit again would you do an interior? The Wirbelwind and the Ostwind both had visible interiors due to the open bottom turrets. And seeing as these are on former frontline Ausf H chassis would said interiors retain their primer red flooring and ivory interiors or would the interiors have been painted Dunkelgelb to camoflage the interior?

I am not sure about the Wirbelwind, but on the Ostwind, once everything is in place, you can't see inside anyway. The Italeri kit has a flooring section that goes right under the turret, and looking at some pics of a Wirbel with the turret removed, that had a raised floor as well, with nothing else directly under the turret. The pics are from a vehicle in a museum and are black and white, the interior does look dark, I would say primer red, while the drivers compartment, which you can see with the turret off, is defiantly white.

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On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, January 2, 2014 7:52 PM

Mikeym_us

Karl if you build this kit again would you do an interior? The Wirbelwind and the Ostwind both had visible interiors due to the open bottom turrets. And seeing as these are on former frontline Ausf H chassis would said interiors retain their primer red flooring and ivory interiors or would the interiors have been painted Dunkelgelb to camoflage the interior?

Mike, ya got me!? Embarrassed Honestly, I don't know. wbill would be a better guy to ask about stuff like that. I'm more an "artist" in my approach than a diehard historian. And I don't think I'd monkey around with an interior much because I simply don't know what would be in them--and nor does anyone else, really. And to be honest, it doesn't much matter to me anyway--the interior on this is so cramped that you wouldn't be able to see much of it anyway.

From what I know and have read, primer red as an interior color was VERY unpopular with the crews---there were, apparently, many complaints about it. So I would think that if they had the paint to do the exterior DY, they would most likely have gone and painted the interior in a DY as well.

I've got a DML Ostwind, but probably won't get to it for quite a while. On to another variant of another vehicle after this one. I may do a big paper panzer after this one?

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, January 2, 2014 7:39 PM

Thanks, Greg and Eric! I appreciate you leaving such nice comments!

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, January 2, 2014 7:38 PM

stikpusher

That is another beautiful finished build from you my friend. That splatter technique is sure interesting. I might suggest more concentration of that stuff in areas more likely to have increased mud build up around the running gear. When your other stuff in the near future is done, your modeling batteries should be recharged, and I am sure you will wow us with another superb build.

Carlos,

Thanks, man!. You have to be careful for doing too much "spatter"--it is very difficult to control, and not really the proper technique to "build up" bulk like you suggest. Much better to use plain pigments with acrylic medium--white glue will also suffice-- with dirt or plaster filler and make a dedicated thick slurry to then add around the suspension. I did some of that, but didn't want to go crazy with it as it tends to obscure the paint.

Thanks for your vote of confidence---I'm already excited about the next project--whatever I decide that will be! Smile

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  • From: Kincheloe Michigan
Posted by Mikeym_us on Thursday, January 2, 2014 6:14 PM

Karl if you build this kit again would you do an interior? The Wirbelwind and the Ostwind both had visible interiors due to the open bottom turrets. And seeing as these are on former frontline Ausf H chassis would said interiors retain their primer red flooring and ivory interiors or would the interiors have been painted Dunkelgelb to camoflage the interior?

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, January 2, 2014 3:36 PM

Amazing work! Thank you so much for sharing this build.

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  • From: N. Georgia
Posted by Jester75 on Thursday, January 2, 2014 3:16 PM

I have to echo what others have already said Karl, she looks great!

Best of luck with the move and the new house and safe travels my friend!

Eric

 

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, January 2, 2014 1:31 PM

That is another beautiful finished build from you my friend. That splatter technique is sure interesting. I might suggest more concentration of that stuff in areas more likely to have increased mud build up around the running gear. When your other stuff in the near future is done, your modeling batteries should be recharged, and I am sure you will wow us with another superb build.

 

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, January 2, 2014 1:17 PM

Thanks, Lee and Johan!

I hope that you get more FSM time, Lee, and good luck with the new house---I know how exciting that can be!

And thank you, Johan, for the well-wishes! Hope your new year is as rewarding as well!

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  • From: Gothenburg
Posted by JohanT on Thursday, January 2, 2014 9:32 AM

Hi Karl,

I would agree with Jack that a lot of focus on a Wirbelwind goes to the interior of the turret and you simply scored there. The contrasts make all the difference and you have it all the way from the sighting aperture in there instrument black, the worn but clean interior over to the outer turret and then finally the beaten up hull itself.

Very good way to finish 2013 and an inspirational kick start for 2014.

Happy New Year and Good Luck!

Johan

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  • From: Spartanburg, SC
Posted by subfixer on Thursday, January 2, 2014 8:53 AM

Due to my own move to another home, I have been slacking on my posting.

YesYesToast on the Wirbelwind, Karl. Another super piece of work.

Lee

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, January 2, 2014 8:05 AM

Guys, thanks all, for the nice comments, the well-wishes on the house, and the sentiments on my travels. It's much-appreciated and I will indeed be looking in as much as I can. I am happy to know that after so many years on this forum that there are still things to share and show, and that some new modelers and friends here are still finding my WIPs educational. Just paying back what I got from the modelers before me who taught me through their own WIP posts!

I have to leave here some time in late January and will be on the road a month, then home for a few weeks before jetting off to Europe again. When I come home a month later I have to move, and then May and June brings a few more weeks of travel. It's going to be crazy. I will be trying to get on and keep in touch though!

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