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Wirbelwind---FINISHED PICS! pg 7

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Wirbelwind---FINISHED PICS! pg 7
Posted by the doog on Wednesday, November 6, 2013 8:46 PM

Hey guys,

Just starting a new WIP here--a Tamiya Wirbelwind with some PE zimm that I've been wanting to try for a while now. I also got me some PE for the exterior. I'm going to use some Dragon tracks too.

This PE zimm is pretty cool stuff. I've read a lot of reviews on it saying "I don't like it; it's too thin". I disagree. It seems to me to be close to scale. I think what happened is that we got used to seeing models with bigger, out-of-scale zimmerit, and now this appears to be underscale? But I think it looks pretty cool.

I've been applying it with thick CA glue, and it seems to hold prettty well. The edges have been sealed with Squadron White putty. Here's where I am so far....

Stay tuned! I'm going to try to update by the end of the week, hopefully, with some chassis progress!

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Posted by IBuild148 on Wednesday, November 6, 2013 10:11 PM

I'm on board Karl. All the "goods" are here for another quality build.

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Posted by bufflehead on Wednesday, November 6, 2013 11:30 PM

Wow!  That was quick Karl!  Back with another WIP so soon!  Its looking good so far....I've always read that PE zim was "too thin" myself, but I like what I see!  

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Posted by jibber on Thursday, November 7, 2013 2:48 AM

Doog I think the zim looks great and I like how your sealing the edges. I've seen builds where edges are actually peeling off and it doesn't help the overall look.

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Thursday, November 7, 2013 4:36 AM

You're off to a great start, Karl! I think the Zimmerit looks spot on! I really liked your 4502 WIP, so I'll follow this one with great interest!

Just a small remark: The tank is spelled "Wirbelwind" (German for Whirlwind). I don't want to be ovely picky, but with German being my native language, I just notice things like this vrey easily...

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, November 7, 2013 6:29 AM

SchattenSpartan

Just a small remark: The tank is spelled "Wirbelwind" (German for Whirlwind). I don't want to be ovely picky, but with German being my native language, I just notice things like this vrey easily...

Thanks for catching that, SchattenSpartan! I think I knew I was misspelling it, but I was too tired to check last night!

Thanks, guys for the support on this new build already. I'm liking he look of the PE zimm--it'll be interesting to see how it looks with paint! Smile

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Posted by Tojo72 on Thursday, November 7, 2013 6:43 AM

good stuff Karl,will be checking in for sure

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, November 7, 2013 1:37 PM

Nice start there karl. I have the same kit in the stash so will be paying extra close attention.

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Posted by subfixer on Thursday, November 7, 2013 1:40 PM

OK, another one to watch.

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Posted by disastermaster on Thursday, November 7, 2013 3:24 PM

Just finished one and back with another.

It looks like the doog's on a Blitzkrieg http://wurzeltod.ch/wurzelforum/Smileys/phpbb/diktator.gif

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Posted by New Hampshire on Thursday, November 7, 2013 5:00 PM

I agree with DisasterMaster....you are on a blitzkrieg my man!



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Posted by the doog on Thursday, November 7, 2013 5:39 PM

Hey guys, it's good to have you all along!  Thanks for looking in!

Your comment made me chuckle, Steve! :)

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, November 7, 2013 7:29 PM

Just saw your message, Brian----I LOVE Beavis and Butthead, lol!!!!

They look like our typical fans! ha ha!

Metallica though.....Hmm...........Wink lol

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Posted by New Hampshire on Thursday, November 7, 2013 8:17 PM

Yeah, but this cover of Blitzkrieg was from when Metallica was good. Big Smile

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Posted by wbill76 on Friday, November 8, 2013 1:53 PM

Nice choice of subject Karl! Looking forward to seeing you work your usual magic on this one. Beer

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Posted by the doog on Friday, November 8, 2013 5:18 PM

Thanks for looking in Bill. Pushing onward through the fog here...lol

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Posted by cml on Saturday, November 9, 2013 2:44 AM

Easily my favourite piece of German WWII armour.

I'll be following this WIP Karl.

Keep the progress pics coming.

Chris.

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Posted by the doog on Saturday, November 9, 2013 12:07 PM

cml

Easily my favourite piece of German WWII armour.

I'll be following this WIP Karl.

Keep the progress pics coming.

Chris.

Well, I"m happy to have you along! I can honestly say I've never heard anyone describe the Wirbelwind as their "favorite" German armor--that in itself inspires me to excel in this build! YesCool

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Posted by rocker286 on Sunday, November 10, 2013 6:27 PM

Can't wait to see more photos, Looks awesome so far!

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Posted by SprueOne on Sunday, November 10, 2013 7:56 PM

Dang, Doog, You're just an armor kit building machine. 

I've never ever ever tried putty zip but this PE version, I may try 

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Posted by waynec on Monday, November 11, 2013 5:29 PM

might i presume the gray on the edges is the squadron putty? i have found using white glue wiped down with a damp Q-tip works well for filling hard to sand edges too (like caulking a bath tub and blending it with your fingers). i too will be watching this.

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Posted by the doog on Sunday, November 17, 2013 4:39 PM

Hi guys,

Well, I've finally got some significant progress to report. Man, I've been puttering away, but honestly, the PE is just taking a lot of time. Anyhoo----

waynec
might i presume the gray on the edges is the squadron putty? i have found using white glue wiped down with a damp Q-tip works well for filling hard to sand edges too (like caulking a bath tub and blending it with your fingers).
---Wayne, that was a great tip! White glue--I wish I'd thought of that before I started with the putty!

OK, I've been experimenting with this PE zimmerit--I don't care for the uniformity of this zimm (1): I wanted to add some damage and variety, so I cut the zimm with a fine pair of scissors. (2) Unfortunately, this tends to deform the brass (3), so I just tamped it down with the flat handle of my bigger Exacto (4) and that seems to flatten it just fine with no other degradation of the pattern. (5).

I made a nice little jack block out of balsa wood and the supplied PE.

I also added some blank panels under the hull area where it's open before I mounted the hull halves.

The front hull, so far...note the damaged zimm panels...I still have to put in the zimm on the sides of the fenders after I fashion some fender springs.

In the rear, I made springs out of wire wrapped around another wire--I have yet to put these on the front ones too...Annoyingly, I had to build "fender insides", as the PE part doesn't provide for that. I chose to use the kit parts on the air intake flaps that rest on the fenders because the PE parts were simply too big. I've actually veto'ed some of the other PE parts in favor of the more "to scale" kit parts. Sometimes, all that glitters is not in scale. Embarrassed

The Academy tracks I was using for this build (the kit has Tamiya one-piece that you can't really sag) all had to have their double knock-out marks filled in... OY!

But with these little sanding sticks that my local LHS up in Syracuse had when I lived there, it proved pretty easy to sand them down.

Next, the spare barrel boxes on the rear need to be completely sanded down to put the PE parts on them--this leaves you with nothing but square styrene rectangles! I had to find some way to add a straight line to represent the two halves that would open up.

I would up gluing a piece of .080 angled styrene to a piece of glass that I have here, and used that as a template for a scriber that I got from MicroMark.

After filling in the void on the bottom with a piece of styrene, they're good to get the PE...

The PE attached.

Here they are attached: note that the hinges are on the OUTSIDE of the boxes! A lot of modelers make the mistake of putting the latches on toward the outside, but they are designed to open to the back deck of the vehicle. Weird, I know----I put 'em on backwards the FIRST time too! PropellerOops

That's where I am now...motoring on, getting there.....thanks for looking in and giving a shout out! Smile

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, November 17, 2013 5:08 PM

Lots of great progress with the PE details here Karl, keep at it, you're dressing this one up nicely! Yes

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Posted by Jester75 on Sunday, November 17, 2013 5:12 PM

Looking great Karl!

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Posted by disastermaster on Sunday, November 17, 2013 6:54 PM

 It's nice to click in and see some significant progress here. I just don't know where you get the time.

    Needless to say, http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/funny/1/belly-dance.gifit's certainly looking good.

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Posted by garzonh on Sunday, November 17, 2013 7:23 PM

Oh WOW, already having a lot of detail.

PE is a pain in the lower part of the back but hey, gives awesome reality.

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Sunday, November 17, 2013 8:05 PM

G O Karl G OYes

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Posted by T26E4 on Sunday, November 17, 2013 8:14 PM

good progress Doog.  My only thought is this: on the left rear fender, the forces that would bend it so dramatically--- wouldn't that just shear off the fender from its hinges?  I can understand a krinkle or slight bend but that huge an impact would seem to rip the fender off its hinges I'd think.  Just my 2 cents

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Posted by waynec on Sunday, November 17, 2013 9:52 PM

hi doog looking good. were the air filter lower "covers" on al PZ-IVs or just late models?? i don't recall seeing them.

micromark sells those thin sanding strips in a 300 pack of various grades for about $25. i use them all the time but be careful with wet sanding; they will fall apart quickly when wet

indy tracks are bad enough. indy tracks with sink wells are evil. reminds me of my chinese treasue ship EVERY part has sink wells.

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Posted by bufflehead on Monday, November 18, 2013 12:42 AM

Wow Karl, you did a great job with the PE zim!  I love how you damaged it and blended it back in!  Plus all the detailing.....NIIIIIIIIICE!  

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