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Yes, another Sherman. Dragon Sherman III slowly moving forward

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Yes, another Sherman. Dragon Sherman III slowly moving forward
Posted by Aldershot II on Friday, February 13, 2015 12:54 PM

This project is well on its way with more progress since these pictures were taken. The subject will be a Fort Garry Horse Sherman III with Dragon's 6231 as the basis. Many years since I started modelling and only a few armour projects a long time ago, so here it goes.

Weld seams added, thanks to Disastermaster for mentioning his technique of laquer thinner and sprue. Worked well

Extra detailing

If you built their M4 then you know the work involved in cleaning up mold lines and seams.

Should have some more pics up next week.

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, February 13, 2015 1:12 PM

Looks good so far!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by M. Brindos on Friday, February 13, 2015 2:35 PM

I will have to thank DM as well. I also used that trick on my build and it's fantastic.  :)

Another Sherman?! Bummer. [/end sarcasm] lol  I love Shermans! These Dragon kits, as I'm really starting to figure out for myself, are kind of tricky to assemble at times. But worth the efforts when you iron out all the missing information and get things put together correctly.

I'll be watching this build with keen interest Aldershot.

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by disastermaster on Friday, February 13, 2015 8:12 PM

Hey new guy,

 I've been waiting for this...... http://www.animateit.net/data/media/129/Impatient_rat.gif

     waiting to see how you're going to do it up.

          It's looking pretty dern good so far.

http://papertrufflez.com/images/various/booyahsmiley.gif I'd like to thank you Aldershot II, and you also Mike Brindos for the call-out in the helpful advice category. I'm glad to see that the old wip I did so many moons ago has been a benefit to both of you and hopefully to many others here as well.

                       http://heathersanimations.com/military/edsherm2.gif Looking like there's been a resurgence

                          in Sherman production here as of late.  http://heathersanimations.com/military/edsherm4.gif

 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, February 13, 2015 9:30 PM

Smile when you say, "another Sherman"....

Very nice so far!

 

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Posted by Raualduke on Saturday, February 14, 2015 12:10 AM

No such thing as too many shermans, looking good!

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Posted by Vladimir on Saturday, February 14, 2015 1:18 AM

Hi  Aldershot II.

What about turret from Dragon  - is that custom turret  or it was smooth and flat (like in Tamiya kit) and you made it custom ?

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Posted by T26E4 on Saturday, February 14, 2015 7:22 AM

It looks like he applied a textured primer (Mr. Surfacer probably) to the DML kit turret.

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Posted by disastermaster on Saturday, February 14, 2015 8:53 AM

stikpusher

Smile when you say, "another Sherman"....

(to the tune of, The Campbells are Comin')
       (with tongue glued firmly in cheek)
                      https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0_4TvQc0gAU/TerxzKiAiGI/AAAAAAAAMwI/rZqaanXxaeI/s800/tongue-in-cheek.gif
http://1389blog.com/pix/scots-bagpiper-smiley.gifThe Shermans are comin again, Oho!
  The Shermans are comin, Oho! Again http://funny.st/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/She-made-me-do-it.gif http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/funny/2/banana-with-kilt-smiley-emoticon.gif
http://www.smilies.4-user.de/include/Musik/smilie_musik_098.gifThe Shermans are comin Again 'n Again!
  Those tanks are returnin' to Fine scale......http://forum.naghola.com/images/smile%20neww/1392%20(29).gifhttp://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/funny/2/banana-with-bagpipes-smiley-emoticon.gif
             ...........dang pesty Shermans...... http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/images/smilies/mosquitos.gif                                http://www.gif-mania.net/signatures-animees/uploads/u/1412/53da4fbb.gif
                             OK, I'll stop the madness.....http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/angry/pulling-hair.gif
                                                            
                          

 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by the doog on Saturday, February 14, 2015 9:37 AM

Is it just my memory, or has it been a long while since a Sherman was built in WIP here?

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, February 14, 2015 10:28 AM

It's your memory, I built one three months ago WIP.

Steve

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Posted by Aldershot II on Saturday, February 14, 2015 10:33 AM

Thank you's to everyone for reading and comments. Seems there's a lot of love for our friend the M4. There were enough versions produced to makes so many great projects. I was torn between a Normandy FGH of A squadron or late was of same Unit. Somewhere in the worldwideweb is a partial list of WD numbers of vehicles used by this unit.

Yes the kit turret was sanded smooth with Mr. Surfacer 1000 added and worked over for a stipple effect. Part of the problem was the lighting does not offer enough contrast to show the effect(had my flash off Embarrassed).

A book in my library was very helpful. 400+ pages with details and selected unit was diaries.

I used a piece of brass tubing filed in a drill vise for help in producing the weld seams.

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Posted by disastermaster on Saturday, February 14, 2015 11:44 AM

the doog

Is it just my memory, or has it been a long while since a Sherman was built in WIP here?

Well, I did one......http://www.kalenderland.com/_img/_anim/clock-smiley-armbanduhr.gif

              but that wuzz a pretty long while ago.

 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by jgeratic on Saturday, February 14, 2015 4:49 PM

Coming along nicely, following along as I find Canadian Shermans particularly interesting.  I've also that book, and I think the serial list you might be referring to is MMP Books'  working pdf that is updated as new information comes to light:

mmpbooks.biz/.../Vehicle_Names_V3.pdf

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Aldershot II on Tuesday, February 17, 2015 4:44 PM

Thank you for the link jgeratic . What I was thinking about was a list of WD numbers of some of the Shermans used by Fort Garry Horse and not mentioning any tank names. I will find the information if I keep digging.

A few items I noted in a picture I'm using as reference.

The first item is the bracket assembly above the ride fender. I've seen this on at least one other Canadian Sherman. Next is the removal of some of the end connectors on the spare track mounted above the transmission cover. Looks to be removed as to not to restrict the travel arc of the Hull gun.

The last detail is the center location of the engine deck cover lift handle.

Small details but some little things to help set it apart. I will not be doing a burnt wreck but something operational around the time frame that this vehicle was in combat.

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Posted by M. Brindos on Tuesday, February 17, 2015 7:08 PM

Nice researching. I wish I had more sources for the M-103 I'm building, but there isn't much out there for a tank that never saw combat.

I'm a huge history fan myself so that stuff fascinates me. Knowing the "why" behind a build is always the icing on the cake.  :)

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Posted by T26E4 on Tuesday, February 17, 2015 11:30 PM

Mike: Ampersand has announced a David Doyle book on the M103, you know

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Posted by M. Brindos on Wednesday, February 18, 2015 11:07 AM
I did not know, but I have a book coming soon. I'm building the model for the author. :)

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by Aldershot II on Wednesday, February 18, 2015 11:39 AM

Hi Mike. Times were so tough back then, unlike today everyone seems to have something in their back pocket to take a picture with. At least we can thank many of the wartime photographers for giving us a sliver of reference detail.

The ModelKasten track set T54E1 is taking forever to assembly but work continues. I just can't seem to find a quick way to speed the production up.

Good luck with the M-103

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Posted by M. Brindos on Wednesday, February 18, 2015 2:06 PM
Thank you. :)
Its been fun so far. Looking forward to more on your build.

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by Aldershot II on Wednesday, February 25, 2015 1:55 PM

Tediously working away at the Model Kasten tracks, about 85% complete. My first time using any separate link track set, any suggestions or tips for the final assembly???

Fillling in the area where the front fender attaches was some work as well, I don't know why they let this go into production (Dragon, that is) as such. Even giving some parts to attach yourself would have been some help.

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, February 25, 2015 5:59 PM

Looking good.

For the tracks, I'd suggest getting the correct amount of links glued together, but don't join the ends just yet, and leave the drive sprocket unattached as well.  Paint and weather everything, as well as the hull/tank .   Then join the ends, slip the sprocket into the tracks, and mount starting at the idler end.

You should try this by dry fitting first just to make sure, but if there are side fenders installed as well, this might not work.  There is, as they say, more than one way to skin a cat, so I'm sure there other ways of doing this.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by disastermaster on Wednesday, February 25, 2015 6:21 PM

That sounds good to me.

Hey, look at what one of my guys just drove up in.....

                                     http://i51.tinypic.com/16h22i9.gif

 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by RBaer on Thursday, February 26, 2015 2:29 PM

Shermans are good for the soul.

Nice work here, too. I have to say, you're a brave man, doing MK tracks. I think I'd pass from old age before I got a set completed.

Apprentice rivet counter.

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Posted by Aldershot II on Thursday, February 26, 2015 3:19 PM

Why doesn't this surprise me from Disastermaster!

The tracks now are %100 assembled but leaving a link short at 77 until fitting takes place. As well a few extra assembled for the extra that will added to the front used as protection.

I purchased Bronce and AFV Club as well as the Model Kasten and used them because it seemed to me they were so much better than the others. The finesse of the moldings is the big seller for me. This is a very special project for me so I had to go for them. The suspension is next.

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Posted by Aldershot II on Monday, March 30, 2015 6:19 PM

A bout with the flu and some reno's being done at home kept me froming doing much this last week. I had to pick up some plastic to add the long brackets at the bottom of the upper hull. The photo etch provided in the kit did not provide enough to cover what was needed. Almost time to attach the upper and lower hulls together but I want to make sure everything is looked after first. I will add and driver figure in the hatch opening and a commander. But still more to do. It has not been forgotten just bogged down a bit.

I see many Japanese modeling blogs with picture of cats in them. They do love cats in Japan, as I do as well.

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Posted by disastermaster on Monday, March 30, 2015 8:11 PM

If that was a panther.....http://www.netanimations.net/getoverit.gif

http://r27.imgfast.net/users/2713/19/43/92/smiles/15609.gif He'd eat that Sherman.

                               (he'll probably try anyway)

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