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Italaerei Fiat-Ansaldo M13/40 Italian “Medium” tank

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Italaerei Fiat-Ansaldo M13/40 Italian “Medium” tank
Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, July 06, 2017 5:01 PM
Italaerei? Yes before the name change. The 1960ish kit that's been in my stash for a few years.
I'm in an armor mood and will be starting this tonight. And since the Hurricane (parts issue) and AB (again, parts issue) are on standby it seems like a good time. I have been studying several YouTube vids on weathering and have a lot of ideas rattling around in my head. So, to step up to the next level, this will be my victim.

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Posted by Griffin25 on Thursday, July 06, 2017 5:24 PM

Sweet! I'd like to see how your 60's M13 turns out. Straight outa the box?

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, July 06, 2017 6:18 PM

Yes, nothing fancy.

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, July 06, 2017 6:25 PM

Oh you should have fun with this Steve!

 

My first 1/35th tank was an Italeri Panzer IV late model back in the late '80s.

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Posted by bufflehead on Thursday, July 06, 2017 8:31 PM

Oooh yeaah!!  For an oldie its not a bad kit.  Detail is pretty good and with some TLC it actually can be quite nice.  Does it still come with the hard vinyl tracks?  If so, those are probably the only downside of the kit.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, July 06, 2017 10:53 PM

Thanks Gam and Ernest,

Ernest, yes it has the vinyl tracks. Armor is probably my weakest link in model building so I can use all the help you guys are willing to give. It may be some time before I'm as good as y'all in this area.

It does look like a quick fun little kit.

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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, July 06, 2017 11:29 PM

Honestly, Italeri kits were much better then similar old Tamiya kits. I do agree that the tracks are the weakest link, but they are at least detailed on both sides, unlike said Tamiya kit.

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Posted by Bish on Friday, July 07, 2017 5:49 AM

Now that is an oldie. lets hope theres no fit issues, might not be so easy to get a replacment part. Will be watching.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, July 10, 2017 11:27 PM
Bish, I did run into a missing part. That doesn’t surprise me since I've had it for years and the box wasn't sealed. The part is on the rear deck between the engine grills and looks like the top of the fuel tank, or at least it has a filler cap. I can add some storage or something to cover it though so no biggie.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, July 11, 2017 1:10 AM

It's the same mold as the kit that Italeri sells today. Track down the current kit number and the part number and you can try requesting the list part from their customer service. 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, July 11, 2017 9:41 AM

I can try that. It may take another 12 weeks though like the Hurricane. I may order it and go ahead and finish it for now. I wanted to show it in this years local IPMS contest....If it turned out OK that is.

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, July 11, 2017 11:38 AM

Nice work there on the bogies. 

Yeah, I think I'd probably just throw a tarp over the missing piece as long as it won't cover the air intakes. 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, July 11, 2017 11:59 AM

Giving it some thought I will probably make some tarp rolls and place them between the grills with ropes or something tied to the grills to secure them.

That's one of the great things about armor, you can always cover a missing or damaged piece Wink

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, July 11, 2017 12:48 PM

I would go the kit route as wel. Even though i have painted the inside of my Pz II black, its still evidant looking through the grills that there is nothing in there, so i will put some kit on there. I use ship rigging rope for tieing down equipment, 0.5mm seems about the right size to me.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, July 24, 2017 10:10 AM

Now that I'm done with the Zero I'm continuing on with the M-13. I seem to be scaling back to only working on one at a time like many other members, or at least while I can keep moving on one baring drying times.

I sprayed the tank flat black and will be adding the sand coat tonight. I would typically just go for the sand after a prime coat but I'm trying something different again.

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Posted by disastermaster on Monday, July 24, 2017 12:32 PM

Bish
I would go the kit route as wel. Even though i have painted the inside of my Pz II black, its still evidant looking through the grills that there is nothing in there, so i will put some kit on there. I use ship rigging rope for tieing down equipment, 0.5mm seems about the right size to me.

 
Well Steve.... sounds like I'm talking to myself.
 
 Another idea would be to check out the make-up department or anywhere you could find a small clear plastic case of the appropiate size. I'm sure you've seen these:
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 Cut off the hinges and use either piece (top or bottom, cup side up) depending on the depth you want. File or cut out the top side closest to the turret. Spray the inside black and insert (not glue) *cut a piece of aluminum foil (not paper or cardboard-they wiil soak up a wash and turn soggy causing trouble) very close to the interior size to protect against overspray and use a piece of fairly low tack tape over and below the leading edge (closest to the turret) to retain it's position and allow easy recovery. You don't want the foil to fall out because it's difficult to re-install. Next, securely glue the cupped side of the case in beneath the grill area. After all paint and weathering, just reach into the hull from the turret area to pull the foil out.
 
*(As an added option you could glue and paint in some vague engine details before adding that tinfoil to fill up the area, the deeper the area=the less detail needed)
 
 Oh yeah, (depending on how far you want to take this) don't forget to block off those hull sponsons.
 
Well, time to move on........
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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, July 24, 2017 12:47 PM
Thanks DM! I'll take a look at that. I didn't even think about engine detail when I was putting the hull together. I typically build planes and ships and can foresee any interior detail needed. I really need to build more armor. I'll take a look around and see if I can find some containers like you showed. I sprayed the interior black so it is difficult to see in there however with the sand color that might negate the whole black interior idea.
I just thinking about checking out the parts box and seeing if I have an old car engine in there. With a few hoses and wires added to it I may be able to come up with something convening.
Here I go again, scratch building and improving something I was going to do OOB. I really need mental help.

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Posted by disastermaster on Monday, July 24, 2017 12:52 PM

modelcrazy

I really need mental help.

 

 
Me too.
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Posted by disastermaster on Monday, July 24, 2017 12:54 PM

In hindsight this might not work so well if you've already closed up the hull.

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 8:51 AM

Steve: Nice work! Curious about your 'something different' since I tend to get in a rut and always do stuff the same way. 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:58 AM

Thanks Gam, it's just better oil wash techniques than I have done previously. I also black based it but I think I went over it too much with the sand. There are some highlights though. I also added some scratches to where the tools will be and will be adding some chipping later. I cooked for the M13/40 engine and it looks like the top of the radiator would have been seen in the grills so I added a piece of styrene to simulate that.

I will be starting on the oil wash after I apply a gloss coat.

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:21 PM

Hmmm, never used black for the undercoat for a sandy yellow paint scheme, I always use a medium brown. Like your results though, I may have to give that a whirl. 

Very cool! Yes

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Posted by ManCityFan on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 2:49 PM

That tank is looking pretty good for an old kit.  I black based my DAK Panzer II, and liked the result. 

Thanks for posting.  This is another tank I would like to add to the stash.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 2:54 PM

Thanks D, I'm getting excited about the weathering. I really like the Pz II, III and IV, I need to add those to the stash although I do have a III in 1/72.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:03 PM

Very nice progress so far! That sand color looks like a good starting point.

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, July 26, 2017 9:48 AM

Thanks Stick,

I added some weathering and chipping. I still need to add the fidely bits that break off and some gear as well as pastels.
I will also be making a desert dio.

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Posted by Griffin25 on Wednesday, July 26, 2017 10:10 AM

That looks great! What is the diorama going to consist of? Italians recapturing their own tank? Smile

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, July 26, 2017 11:18 AM

Not sure, I was thinking of just the tank itself but I'll look in my parts box for some figures. They won't be Italian though.

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, July 26, 2017 5:03 PM

modelcrazy

Not sure, I was thinking of just the tank itself but I'll look in my parts box for some figures. They won't be Italian though.

 

Well with the Aussie markings, you need some Aussies with it... Or some other Commonwealth troops.

That is really shaping up nicely now!

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, July 26, 2017 6:37 PM

Yeah, I don't know why the Italians used a Roo for rhat particular chemical. 

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