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DML Jagdpanther--back to work on this pig..

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DML Jagdpanther--back to work on this pig..
Posted by the doog on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 6:51 PM

Hi everyone,

Back from tour, back in the groove, and freezing....but at the desk again!

I'm doing DML's early Jagdpanther--I've always loved this TD. It just looks fast! It's interesting in that it includes resin "damaged" parts. I've got some goodies to go with it:

The yellow resin are the included damaged parts. I'm going to save some of these for a later version--I've got the Cavalier zimmerit to go with it, so that comes with storage boxes for the rear with Zimm added. I've also got a muzzle that's wrapped up in a travel cover from Tank Workshop, some tow cables, and some deck screens.

I assembled the hull first, as there are no interior parts on this early kit. It's actually a nice, quick build--even the suspension arms are molded on. I the added the zimmerit. Here's where things got tricky: the panels are not exactly the right size--they're short by around 4mm on the sides. Plus, there's nothing for the rear hull storage box--I'll have to try to replicate that. I started by roughing up the back of the zimm panels.

I marked the attachment points with marker, and then traced them through the panels under a bright light. I cut out some of the areas where pieces would be attached...

I used epoxy to attach the major panels, and used a precision applicator to them coax in some thin superglue where the edges were. I had to cut off the rear of the panel sides on each side to add in a sliver of cut-out zimm in order to make the end hull parts match up. I'll have to dress this up later..

 You can see in the photos that there's going to to be putty-blending and filling of edges necessary.

The rear panel was a pain in the neck to cut out and fit properly.

 And the first mistake--I SHOULD have cut out this part to use on the storage box that goes here. Hopefully I can salvage it somehow. I need to somehow replicate this pattern on the storage box. If' I can't do it with this extra zimm, I'll have to break out the Milliputt.

Stay tuned, all! :) Comments welcomed!

 

 

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Posted by bobbaily on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 7:29 PM

You're off to a great start Karl.  Looking forward to watching this one come together.

bob

 

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Posted by Rambo on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 7:42 PM
Wow I didn't realize the band was still touring that's great news. I thought you was just one of the great builders that happened to leave the the site while I was away dealing with life. Glad to see you back at it and can't wait to see more from you.

Clint

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 8:14 PM

Going to be interesting Karl :popcorn:

Steve

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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, January 11, 2018 1:27 AM

Got to love jagdpanthers. Nice to see you back karl.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, January 11, 2018 1:56 AM

Good to see you back Karl. Be interesting to see what you do with this old kit.

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, January 11, 2018 8:03 AM

Welcome back and this is going to be cool! 

I see what you mean about the zimmerit, guess I'm a bit spoiled, the last kit I used aftermarket zimmerit it fit perfectly. Looking forward to seeing how you deal with this. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, January 11, 2018 11:31 AM

bobbaily

You're off to a great start Karl.  Looking forward to watching this one come together.

 

Thanks, Bob! It's nice to see you still on the forums! Thanks for stopping in!

Rambo
Wow I didn't realize the band was still touring that's great news. I thought you was just one of the great builders that happened to leave the the site while I was away dealing with life. Glad to see you back at it and can't wait to see more from you.

Thanks, Rambo--I haven't left, I'm just busy lately. I miss the forums...Traveling, playing guitar a little more, and of course, spending time with my lil guy, Gerhardt.. he's a handful, lol. Life's a lot busier lately for some reason. Well, I should have more time to model in the next few months. :)

modelcrazy
Going to be interesting Karl :popcorn:

Thanks, man! Thanks for stopping in!

tigerman

Got to love jagdpanthers. Nice to see you back karl.

Thanks, Eric! Good to see you still around! :)

Bish

Good to see you back Karl. Be interesting to see what you do with this old kit.

You too, Bish! I'm glad to see a lot of old friends still around!

Gamera

Welcome back and this is going to be cool! 

I see what you mean about the zimmerit, guess I'm a bit spoiled, the last kit I used aftermarket zimmerit it fit perfectly. Looking forward to seeing how you deal with this. 

Thanks, Cliff! Good to see you still here too!
I'm going to go for a faded whitewash pattern over this one. Something like this...hope I can pull it off!

Thanks again, guys! Stay tuned for more updates! :)

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Posted by RudyOnWheels on Thursday, January 11, 2018 12:45 PM

Welcome Back Karl! I always look forward to your builds and learn a lot along the way. 

 

Give Gerhardt a good scratch behind the ears for me!!

 

  - Rudy

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Posted by castelnuovo on Friday, January 12, 2018 3:15 PM

Good to see you back! I was wandering where have you gone? MIA? Smile

Cheers...

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Saturday, January 13, 2018 5:36 PM

Good job, I've always liked the look of the Jagdpanther. It does look like it should be very fast. I used the Cavalier zimmerit on a 1/48 scale Tamiya King Tiger (Porsche turret), my first/only use of cavalier. It was a little tricky dealing with curved areas and filling seams.

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Posted by SprueOne on Saturday, January 13, 2018 7:04 PM

Very detailed steps like always. I'll be hanging around here checkin this out.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by the doog on Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:36 AM

These great little clamps from MicroMark work great for clamping barrels together...

The puttying process left the edges looking a little indistinct, so I'm using a superfine saw blade (MicroMark) to re-scribe the lines in the zimm..

The exhausts need to be drilled out...

The exhaust supports have been thinned using some micro files--I think I picked these up at a IPMS contest two years ago? I could have replaced the mounts with PE for a better look, but I don't feel like getting bogged down in PE for this build; I just want to enjoy the build.

The rear panel, putty'ed. I've used some parts from the excellent Tamiya Pz IV tools kit. I'm using the jack and jack mounts, rear running light, front MG, some tools..

The gun barrel cleaned up and mounted with the resin muzzle cover piece grafted on. The MG is from the aforementioned PZ IV kit. The damaged fender is a special part that comes in this "special edition" kit. Only one is included...kinda odd. I actually searched for 10 minutes for the other side until I googled this kit to clarify if there was in deed only one side included, lol. I also thinned the bottom of the other side with a Dremel bit so that I could bend that side as well. You usually see Jadgpanthers with really dinged-up fenders, from what the reference photos show...

I was a little bit annoyed that these grille covers are so short--but apparently that's the way that they're supposed to be? What's NOT supposed to be that short are the PE grilles that I got--the ones I have are apparently for the "G" based model, which has shorter rear grilles.

Here's the proper sized rear grilles on a model. I didn't get this big set, but I had to order a set from Alliance Works. They'll be here in a few days....

Time to add all the little details now....and then get 'er ready for a primer and base coat. Stay tuned! Thanks for looking in! SmileSmile

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Posted by Greg on Sunday, January 14, 2018 11:15 AM

Welcome back, Karl.

Good to see you back and sharing a WIP.

-Greg

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, January 14, 2018 12:49 PM

Looks good karl, it actually makes sense to just include one damaged mudguard as they would not nessacerily both be damaged.

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Posted by the doog on Wednesday, January 17, 2018 5:51 PM

Thanks Greg, and Bish!! :)

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Posted by the doog on Sunday, February 04, 2018 3:52 PM

Hello again, and sorry for the delay here, guys.

I've been making slow progress on this but have gotten it to the point of primer. Here's what's been done lately:

I put on one of the aide tool rail kit pieces but didn't care for how I placed it--photos actually show it slightly skewed on the hull to allow for the shovel head. So in removing it, I ruined it, and had to build a new one from sprue. I also took the opportunity then to make a better shovel handle and to hollow out the towing pintle mounts. I've also added the first locating pieces for the side armor mounts (which I won't be using).

The other side. I hollowed out the pintle mounts again, and scribed more grain in the jack block. I'm using Tamiya PZ IV tools, but I had to shorten the axe handle to fit it in there.

This is a sad picture: there are not one, but TWO choices for the rear track link mounting rails. Of course, in my haste, I assumed that the ones I saw on the sprue were the only ones. NOPE. Sad When I put them on I was really confused as to why the track links then didn't quite fit the way they're supposed to mount. Nonetheless, with some filing, I was able to shoehorn them on in a fashion that fit a Panther A and the put some thin sprue rod in to simulate track pins--yeah they look crooked here but looked ok not-blown-up on screen. Anyway, I had to tear off this whole rail and put the correct one one. The track links fit as they should on that one. Stupid mistakes, honestly.. Super Angry

How they SHOULD look. I left the damaged zimmerit where I tore off the other side. It will look cool beat up in between these two links.

On the hull top, I painted two extra periscopes and painted the interior of their receptacles before putting the part in. I'll mask these when painting.

The rudimentary side armor mounts. These sometimes got ripped right off, but I'm happy with the basic shapes here. "Old School Modeling 101" lol.

Side view overall...

The wire spool and mufflers will be painted separately. I did add this jack mount to the rear, right above the circular cover there.

The photoetch PE screens. Wait to put on those rear clamp-type-things until you put the PE screens on.

Top deck finished. Don't know if you can tell, but I've textured the top hull and rear deck by stippling Testor's Glue on it with a little bit of white putty added in.

I think that muzzle break cover is from Tiger Models? I am using a figure from the "Jabo's!" tank crew set by Dragon/DML.

I'm including this photo so you can see the painted periscope behind the binocular scope. This small detail is not included in the kit--it's a bare opening there--so you have to add it.

Aaaaaand, that's it for now. I may get some primer on this soon, but I have to set it aside for a few weeks. I got an offer to build a kit for an FSM magazine article in the future, and I'll be turning my attention to that very soon. But thanks for looking in guys. As soon as I can get some time to get some paint on this pig, I'll be back. Geeked

 

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, February 05, 2018 11:40 AM

She's coming along great! 

And nice to know even a modeler as good as you can grab the wrong part off the sprue. I've done that once or twice... Wink

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Posted by Rambo on Monday, February 05, 2018 7:29 PM
looking awesome I always love how your builds capture the vehicle being in combat that the crews live in them 24/7 don't know if that makes since or not.

Clint

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Posted by the doog on Tuesday, February 06, 2018 6:55 AM

Gamera

She's coming along great! 

And nice to know even a modeler as good as you can grab the wrong part off the sprue. I've done that once or twice... Wink

 

Thanks, Cliff---I do that more than I caare to admit, lol. Crying

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Posted by the doog on Tuesday, February 06, 2018 6:57 AM

Rambo
looking awesome I always love how your builds capture the vehicle being in combat that the crews live in them 24/7 don't know if that makes since or not.
 

Thanks Rambo! I definitely prefer that style of building. Sometimes it's fun though to make a "museum build", but I usually only do that with more modern vehicles that I've seen in museums. For WWII and other wars, I like to try to capture a bit of the era. :)

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Posted by the doog on Sunday, February 11, 2018 10:03 AM

Ready for paint with tracks...

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Posted by Hunter on Sunday, February 11, 2018 10:33 AM

Welcome back Karl!! You have done an outstanding job on this kit. I kept looking at the rear panel photos and completely see what you mean by it being a pain in the rear to get a proper fit. I am not surprised that you made it look great. I have to agree with Bish, just adding that one damaged fender looks realistic and fantastic. I can't wait until you get the paint on. Looking forward to the finished build.

Also, it's great to see that Mr. Von Logan is still in charge....lol

Hunter 

      

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Posted by BarrettDuke on Sunday, February 11, 2018 2:18 PM

Doog, Thanks for posting this. Your build looks great. So here's my question. It appears you plan to paint the model fully assembled. I'd like to try that some time. It would make things so much easier for me, but I can't figure out how you do it. How do you paint the wheels without getting paint on the tracks? If you take the tracks off before painting, how do you get the paint into the recessed or blocked spots. For example, do you just not worry about the tank's side plate behind the wheels, the backs of the wheels, the front parts of the inner wheels that are blocked by the outer wheels, or the insides of the tracks. How will you ensure you get sufficient coverage under the mantlet? Can you paint like this and still have a piece that you can enter into a competition? I'd like to try this some time, but these nagging questions keep me from possibly ruining hours of careful construction with a bad paint job. Thanks for any guidance you can give me. Barrett

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Posted by the doog on Sunday, February 11, 2018 4:03 PM

Hunter

Welcome back Karl!! You have done an outstanding job on this kit. I kept looking at the rear panel photos and completely see what you mean by it being a pain in the rear to get a proper fit. I am not surprised that you made it look great. I have to agree with Bish, just adding that one damaged fender looks realistic and fantastic. I can't wait until you get the paint on. Looking forward to the finished build.

Also, it's great to see that Mr. Von Logan is still in charge....lol

 

Thanks you, Hunter!! I appreciate your comments! As does Gerhardt!

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Posted by the doog on Sunday, February 11, 2018 4:11 PM

BarrettDuke

Doog, Thanks for posting this. Your build looks great. So here's my question. It appears you plan to paint the model fully assembled. I'd like to try that some time. It would make things so much easier for me, but I can't figure out how you do it. How do you paint the wheels without getting paint on the tracks? If you take the tracks off before painting, how do you get the paint into the recessed or blocked spots. For example, do you just not worry about the tank's side plate behind the wheels, the backs of the wheels, the front parts of the inner wheels that are blocked by the outer wheels, or the insides of the tracks. How will you ensure you get sufficient coverage under the mantlet? Can you paint like this and still have a piece that you can enter into a competition? I'd like to try this some time, but these nagging questions keep me from possibly ruining hours of careful construction with a bad paint job. Thanks for any guidance you can give me. Barrett

 

Barret,

Thanks for your inquiry, and I'll be happy to answer your questions!

Rest assured, the tracks are only posed on the model to allow them to form around the wheels and harden after being assembled. I NEVER paint my tracks "on the model"--it just doesn't allow you to get the kind of detail that you get painting them off the model. On a model like this, with interleavened road wheels, it would be nigh impossible.

The wheels are just lightly tacked onto the suspension arms with white glue. They can be easily twisted off and will be painted and weathered mostly off the model, and then reglued properly once the tracks have also been painted.

I will paint under the  mantlet with a brush if necessary, but usually the airbrush can reach all I need to paint.

It's too bad that the "Photobucket scandal" happened; I had plenty of detailed blogs on construction on this site that are now plagued with broken links. Sad

I hope this answers your questions. Please feel free to ask anything else.

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, February 12, 2018 8:15 PM

She's lookin' good Karl!

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Posted by 1943Mike on Monday, February 12, 2018 11:49 PM

Karl,

This is the kind of WIP that I love. If I can't learn from it then I need a new frontal cortex.

I also want to thank you for the kind comment you left me on my M48A3 thread. I have lots to learn in armor (in all modeling actually) and you and other skilled modelers are those from whom I hope to grab some basic techniques.

Mike

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Posted by BarrettDuke on Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:28 PM

Karl, Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. That's very helpful. I couldn't figure out how you could do the kind of work I've seen you do if you didn't disassemble it. I'm looking forward to watching your progress. Barrett

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Posted by the doog on Wednesday, February 14, 2018 8:46 AM

Cliff, Mike, Barret, thanks for weighing in and watching. I'll be getting back to this build right after I'm done with the new commissioned build. :)

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