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Posted by the doog on Monday, February 15, 2010 12:25 PM

Thanks, Karel--you wouldn't mind feeding a whole tour bus full of roadies, would you? lol!

Just kidding!

Karl

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Posted by No457 Snowy on Monday, February 15, 2010 5:12 AM

WOW!! Karel are you sure these aren't pictures of a real BMW with giant paint bottles as props? Wink

 

Simply amazing work mate. Toast

 

 

Cheers,

 

Snowy

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    August 2006
  • From: The Netherlands, Europe
Posted by FoxbaT73 on Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:09 PM

Hey Karl,

 

Nice to hear you were in my country, Tilburg is about 80 Miles from my home.

Next time give me a visit Wink

 

 

Karel

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Posted by the doog on Saturday, February 13, 2010 10:52 PM

Karel, I was just in the Netherlands! I was in Tilburg in the last week of January--it was snowing and cold!

I'm still waiting for it to warm up enough to throw in a top-end in my two0stroke race bike. It's to cold to even work on it in my girlfriend's cellar!

I would think Finescale would definitely be interested in your fine build! Good luck!

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  • From: SURREY ,B.C.
Posted by krow113 on Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:58 AM

Karel ; Any time you want I will help to keep the modeling going .Watch my bobber build on here as all the inaccuracies of the 1/9 wla kit will be revealed.

Thank you ,Krow113

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  • From: The Netherlands, Europe
Posted by FoxbaT73 on Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:14 AM

Thanks Brizio Toast

 

This winter is one of a kind (i hope), so next year most likely the winter is not so cold and long as this winter.

A snowmobile should be useless here because normally we only have a little bit snow here...

 

 

Karel

  • Member since
    August 2006
  • From: The Netherlands, Europe
Posted by FoxbaT73 on Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:10 AM

Krow,

 

thank you for your compliments on my models, and the exploded view from the HD seat parts.

For me the most important thing for a model is to make it look realistic, and of course an accurate presentation of the real thing, but there is a limit...

I am happy with the way the HD looks, so for now i leave it as it is.

I will surely use your info if i would build another WLA Wink

 

 

Regards,

 

Karel

 

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  • From: Brizioland
Posted by Brizio on Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:08 AM

Great job!!!


About the snow in The Nederlands, you should use a snowmobile!!! :D

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  • From: The Netherlands, Europe
Posted by FoxbaT73 on Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:03 AM

Thanks Doog for your words.

Here in The Netherlands the winter is cold and long; snow and lots of salt on the road, so my bike stays inside the shed for the time being....

 

I really want to ride too but i must wait at least a month i think...Crying

 

 

I am sending pics of the BMW to FSM, maybe they want to place a pic of the beemer in the readers gallery, i dont know...

 

 

 

Karel

  • Member since
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  • From: SURREY ,B.C.
Posted by krow113 on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:00 PM

Doog ..........buddy .............let me define 'look' (note quotations) To me if you glance at a subject and it does not 'look' right there may be dozens of reasons why not. This kit is riddled with inaccuracies ,7-8 at my last count, these will add up to a 'look' that may or may not be correct . If it 'looks' good to you then fine. The level of commitment in these models (and ours) may dictate a corrective attitude.I have not critizised or degraded the mans excellent work and the piece stands up ,as I stated earlier it is one of the best WLA 's   I have seen .The magazine that sponsors this fine forum ran an article (July 2007) correcting a few of this kits faults but they missed this one and numerous others!    

As far as we know Karel may be fixin it right now.I hope he will wiegh in on this discussion . Later tonight I will post my bobber pix  an you can rip ito it .....if you like!!

I m goin now on my 2006 HD Street Rod for a ride.................Later

Thank you ,Krow113

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Posted by the doog on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:25 PM

krow113

Karel I hope you consider this in the spirit in which it is intended................The seat post out of the top of the frame actually mounts to the 'double bump' withthe two holes. The rider can adjust between the two holes to suit. You will see the clip # 51920-29 this pops off the screw #51918-29 and the seat will pivot forward for battery access. Compare #51900-30 to the kit part #25c . The front of the seat is bolted to the oval shaped hole in the bracket. The  bracket in the kit is the problem. This is a copy of the actual HD manual for this bike ,for my bobber I copied large parts of the manual .There is also a book 'How to restore your Harley Davidson'  Motorbooks International Authentic Restoration Guides ISBN # 0-87938-934-6 . This book is almost required as the author is restoring a WLA and contains vital info for all early harleys. I wonder if Italeri did this on purpose to wreck the 'look'  of the model ,as you can see it does not say Harley-Davidson anywhere on the kit box or contents. I feel this neccessary because I see these WLA models and it drives me out of my mind to see the inaccuracies !!  A little trivia -any number shown followed by -39 ,the 39 is the year of the first use of the part . Again -excellent work on your models!

 

http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu169/krow113/seat-1.jpg?t=1265823854

 

 

WOW, man---I gotta be honest; I read through this post three times, looked at every picture of the HD in question, and though the post may be "intended" as "helpful" (?!?), I think that this is "rivet counting" in the extreme.

If there was any willful misrepresentation on the seat bracket, it was probably due to Italeri not wanting to pay the outrageous licensing fees that I'm sure HD wanted in order to market this model. As it is, I can't see the error, and I can't see how it in ANY way detracts from the model, or the effort and results. To say that it "wrecked the look of the model" is frankly, ridiculous. Zip it!

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    October 2009
  • From: SURREY ,B.C.
Posted by krow113 on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:09 PM

Karel I hope you consider this in the spirit in which it is intended................The seat post out of the top of the frame actually mounts to the 'double bump' withthe two holes. The rider can adjust between the two holes to suit. You will see the clip # 51920-29 this pops off the screw #51918-29 and the seat will pivot forward for battery access. Compare #51900-30 to the kit part #25c . The front of the seat is bolted to the oval shaped hole in the bracket. The  bracket in the kit is the problem. This is a copy of the actual HD manual for this bike ,for my bobber I copied large parts of the manual .There is also a book 'How to restore your Harley Davidson'  Motorbooks International Authentic Restoration Guides ISBN # 0-87938-934-6 . This book is almost required as the author is restoring a WLA and contains vital info for all early harleys. I wonder if Italeri did this on purpose to wreck the 'look'  of the model ,as you can see it does not say Harley-Davidson anywhere on the kit box or contents. I feel this neccessary because I see these WLA models and it drives me out of my mind to see the inaccuracies !!  A little trivia -any number shown followed by -39 ,the 39 is the year of the first use of the part . Again -excellent work on your models!

 

seat-1.jpg picture by krow113

 

 

Thank you ,Krow113

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Posted by the doog on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:29 AM

FoxbaT73

http://i49.tinypic.com/t99l61.jpg

 

 

Karel

Karel, wow, man--what can I say? Just simply one of the most amazing builds I've ever seen. An absolutely superb rendition of a well-used best friend--I'm sitting here thinking about where alll my gear is stored for the winter--your posts made me want to get out and RIDE!

The detailing and weathering is master-modeller quality, no doubt! Bow DownBow DownBow Down

The ol' war brapper is superb as well. You gotta let us know how many trophies this latest one takes!

Well, done, sir; WELL DONE!!!!! (Applause and cheering!)

  • Member since
    October 2009
  • From: SURREY ,B.C.
Posted by krow113 on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:56 AM

yeeaahh! Thats one of the best renditions of that kit I have seen. Looks like you got most of the corrections(plug wires from the generator -not!) rear head on the rear not as per the instuctions on the front! , do ya think ya beat it up enough? I will have to point out the biggest flaw in this kit ,it is so glaring  i have not seen a kit where any one got it right ,that would be the seat bracket ,it is all backwards and so bad it kills !   compare to pix of the real bike and if poss get a harley parts manual for the  WLA 45 .The seat is too far forward and way to high,the seat post ( into the frame ) is too far back on the seat itself,and way to sticken out . the front seat mount is actually a 'U' strap on the frame not the gas tank!! If you are interested I will send the parts page with the bracket and you will see immed what I mean.i am doing this one in a 'bobber ' stripped and  scalloped , I hope to cast up some resin parts ,including the seat bracket(! ), magneto and upper  fork tree. excellent work on the kit...............Yuo may have guessed I work on 1-1 bikes, build choppers and have the references and real bikes to examine

Thank you ,Krow113

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  • From: Cheney, WA
Posted by FastasEF on Tuesday, February 9, 2010 11:39 PM

Absolutely outstanding work on the BMW!

Josh

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    August 2006
  • From: The Netherlands, Europe
Posted by FoxbaT73 on Tuesday, February 9, 2010 11:35 PM

Thanks krow, you mean these pics?:

 

 

 

Karel

  • Member since
    October 2009
  • From: SURREY ,B.C.
Posted by krow113 on Tuesday, February 9, 2010 8:00 PM

cool beemer I wanted to see your harley pic but it wont come up. any chance you would post it?

Thank you ,Krow113

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  • From: The Netherlands, Europe
Posted by FoxbaT73 on Sunday, February 7, 2010 4:51 PM

 

 

Karel

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  • From: The Netherlands, Europe
Posted by FoxbaT73 on Sunday, February 7, 2010 8:31 AM

The model is ready.....


 

 

These pics are taken outside

 

 

 

Karel

 

 

  • Member since
    August 2006
  • From: The Netherlands, Europe
Posted by FoxbaT73 on Thursday, February 4, 2010 9:01 AM

On pictures of the real BMW i saw two frame connecting tubes above and below the swingarm, wich are missing in the kit.

I made two tubes from a piece of sprue and managed to mount them.

Also i forgot an electrocable wich is attached to the frame with ty-wraps, and a small breather hose on the swingarm.

 

Here the lower frame tube can be seen

 

 

 

Both connecting tubes are visible here, and the breather hose on the swingarm

 

 

 

 

The electrocable wich is mounted with ty-wraps on the frame

 

 

 

And an overview...

 

 

 

 

Karel

  • Member since
    August 2006
  • From: The Netherlands, Europe
Posted by FoxbaT73 on Thursday, February 4, 2010 8:54 AM

Thanks Griffin for your compliment Wink

 

 

Karel

  • Member since
    January 2009
  • From: Edmonton, Alberta
Posted by Griffin on Monday, February 1, 2010 1:03 PM

Your level of craftmanship and detail makes me want to bury my head in the sand and give up on my feeble attempts forever. Bow Down

Simply amazing work.

  • Member since
    August 2006
  • From: The Netherlands, Europe
Posted by FoxbaT73 on Monday, February 1, 2010 8:19 AM

I finished and mounted a lot of small parts, a time consuming job...

 

 

The petcocks

 

 

 

Breather hoses on the fueltank

 

 

 

The footpegs and the brake and shift pedals

 

 

 

The clutch lever on the backside of the engine

 

 

 

The kickstarter

 

 

 

 

Rear brake lever and cable

 

 

 

And the fairing

 

 

 

 

Karel

 

 

 

  • Member since
    January 2007
Posted by the doog on Saturday, January 30, 2010 6:29 AM

Thanks for the info, Karel. That's along the lines of what I thought

Nice of you to share your methods with your viewers here. Some guys are reluctant to do that and "give away their secrets" but it is a better man who teaches as well as does, in my opinion! Smile

  • Member since
    August 2006
  • From: The Netherlands, Europe
Posted by FoxbaT73 on Saturday, January 30, 2010 5:06 AM

Karl,

 

Before i start weathering,  i scratch the bodyparts very lightly with a rough piece of sandpaper, and then i use a mixture of MIG pigments;  African Earth, Europe Dust and Beach Sand to fill the scratches.

Sometimes i am not happy with the result or i used to much pigment, then i wipe it away with a small piece of scotch bride to reveal more colour from the paint.

Sometimes i use oil paint, but that is mostly for greasy parts on the engine.

 

 

 

Karel

  • Member since
    January 2007
Posted by the doog on Saturday, January 30, 2010 4:38 AM

Looking beautiful, Karel!

If you don't mind me asking; what's your method for weathering? Are you using MIG pigments, or just plain, real dirt? It really looks tremendous!

  • Member since
    August 2006
  • From: The Netherlands, Europe
Posted by FoxbaT73 on Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:52 AM

Thank you RedKnight.

 

 

The fairing/headlight unit is ready, the windscreen will be mounted later.

 

 

Karel

  • Member since
    January 2010
Posted by RedKnight on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:56 PM

Your skills and attention to detail are amazing! I'll be looking forward to seeing more pix of your work.

  • Member since
    August 2006
  • From: The Netherlands, Europe
Posted by FoxbaT73 on Sunday, January 24, 2010 2:55 PM

Many thanks...

 

 

I finished the mounting of most wires and cables, and the steering bar.

The rubber handlebar grips supplied with the kit were inaccurated, so i replaced them by turned home made grips.

 

 

 

 

 

Karel

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