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Posted by Prince of Styrene II on Friday, March 13, 2009 12:17 AM

Yep, the third badge in my sig- the welder.  Here's the direct link for you:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff5/Prince_of_Styrene_II/model%20stuff/master3a_100.jpg

 

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Posted by Boba Fett on Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:48 PM

Sorry guys for not posting. I havn't started the cube, but I've been planning. I just want to let you all know that I'm still alive... BTW: SNOOPY, is there a badge for this? Thx.

 Graham

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Posted by sumpter250 on Friday, March 6, 2009 1:42 PM

The patterns, and the material for the Kodiak secondary hull, are waiting for me to "pay them some attention".

Model Railroading has captured my attention for the moment. I have a show to go to, end of this month, in Rockford, Il., and have been working on a logging train to run on the modules. A dozen log cars, a "loader", and upgrades to the locomotive.....easy work, lots of "research",(the internet hasn't yet been too helpful in providing the details of a steam siphon, used by the Rayonier Lumber Co. on its #111 locomotive) which is the more time consuming part of the build, and the reason I do Sci Fi.......to escape the research!

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Posted by Prince of Styrene II on Friday, March 6, 2009 10:26 AM
Yea, I admit I have.  There's a couple other builds on my bench that I'm trying to build at the same time (one for a comission, one is to show my little cousin some techniques) so those have been taking precedence.  But most day I'm just too tired to pick up an X-Acto.  I have been picking through the bits box to find some greebles for the neck area & found something that will work pretty well.  Hopefully I'll be able to so some work soon.

"Hold the weapons, Daddy. I'm going to go get my monkeys." The Dutchess of Styrene

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Posted by SNOOPY on Friday, March 6, 2009 7:05 AM
Hey everyone.  It looks like some of us have hit the wall a bit.  I know I have.  This doing school, work, and kids is like three full time jobs with sleeping at night is the only relax time I get.  I have not touched anything resembling a model since classes started.  Woody glad things are getting back to normal.  I have a break in school coming up may be I can get back to working on my builds.
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Posted by Woody on Friday, February 13, 2009 12:50 PM
Man that looked painful! Shock [:O]

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Posted by Prince of Styrene II on Friday, February 13, 2009 8:14 AM

Glad to hear you're back up & running!

Oh, and here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qatBSS89ti0

 

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Posted by Woody on Friday, February 13, 2009 6:08 AM
Everything is mostly back to normal. I'm an ebay power seller and the lack of services has set me back a couple of weeks but I'm getting caught up. I guess that is why I can't seem to find the time to get anything done on my GB entry. Maybe I just need somebody to come over and give me a swift kick in the behind! LOL

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Posted by sumpter250 on Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:56 AM

Do you have other angles to look at?

The only other pics are back on page 2, a starboard side shot, and a head on shot. 

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Posted by Prince of Styrene II on Thursday, February 12, 2009 8:01 AM

 SNOOPY wrote:
Woody, I hope things are going good for you and you came out of the storm unscathed and your family is okay.

Yea, how's things going, Woody?  Everything getting back to normal?

 

I've been moving a bit slow on my build, too.  Havn't touched it in a very long time.  Work has been far too draining to feel the need to build.  Last night I did go through my greeble box to look for deflector parts.  I love parts that look very industrial, are functional & not pretty, so I think I'll be using some parts from the radial engine of a B-29.  I'll have to cut them down a bit first, but it should look cool.

"Hold the weapons, Daddy. I'm going to go get my monkeys." The Dutchess of Styrene

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Posted by SNOOPY on Thursday, February 12, 2009 7:13 AM

Sumpter250:  Very impressive.  Do you have other angles to look at?  I am not sure what Prince of Styrene II is looking at.  I just do see the gaps he mentioned.  His experience is a lot better than mine.  Of course I could look at a models with big gaps and not see them.  I usually look at the subject.  I am sure when my is complete he can point out things I missed.  This why these group builds are fun.  I always miss things.

Sorry I have not been doing much.  I am taking a programming course to finish my engineering degree and that is taking all my time especially when I am lousy at it but it is a requirement. I also have to get some supplies and try Woody's suggestion on getting rig of my grooves in the saucer.

Woody, I hope things are going good for you and you came out of the storm unscathed and your family is okay.

-Scott

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Posted by Prince of Styrene II on Friday, February 6, 2009 1:00 AM
Yea, John's an excellent builder, & very speedy at it, too, when he wants to be. Big Smile [:D]  And I think you're right about those little phasers.

"Hold the weapons, Daddy. I'm going to go get my monkeys." The Dutchess of Styrene

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Posted by sumpter250 on Thursday, February 5, 2009 1:40 PM
I bookmarked that "build page"! Now, I think I'll take up knitting.......that was an extremely nice bit of modelbuilding!!! I suspect that the two "things" on the top of the saucer P/S of the bridge, are forms of megaphasers, perhaps an evolution of the ones on USS Reliant (Wrath of Kahn).

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Posted by Prince of Styrene II on Thursday, February 5, 2009 12:28 AM

 sumpter250 wrote:
There was a "future" version of this, commanded by Riker in one of the later Next Gen episodes.

The ship Admiral Riker commanded was the Enterprise-D after a refit, in the final episode titled "All Good Things...".  The ship is often refered to as the "AGT E-D".  It sported a third nacelle & a mega-phaser canon under the saucer, among other small greebles.

Here's a great build by John Payne:

http://www.inpayne.com/models/agtd/agtd.html

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Posted by Woody on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 8:21 PM
Well sitting in the dark, drawing by candle light did let me refine my design. I'm very happy with the design and I can't wait to make it a reality.

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Posted by Archangel on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 8:12 PM
Don't feel bad. I have yet to get beyond the design stage .
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Posted by Woody on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 6:10 PM
I have been in the middle of the ice storm that crippled Missouri. We have been without power so I still haven't gotten to start. Maybe this weekend.

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Posted by sumpter250 on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 1:23 PM

There was a "future" version of this, commanded by Riker in one of the later Next Gen episodes.

The dreadnought class, as best as I can determine, is similar. the secondary hull appears to be a bit shorter,somewhere between the "Constitution" class Cruiser, and the "Firestone" class Battle Cruiser, and there is no lower photon torpedo tubes, beneath the secondary hull. This is TOS, between Star Trek II, and the "Undiscovered Country".  Some of these could have been re-comissioned in the early NG era. 

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Posted by SoD Stitch on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 1:00 PM
 sumpter250 wrote:

And thanks for the compliments on the "found parts"!  it's starting to turn into a sickness because I look at nearly every scrap part I see with "potential"

.....never throw anything away! This,USS Firestone NCC 8600, Class ship, Battle Cruiser, was a pure kitbash, with a couple of scratched parts (pylons, nacelle,and hull. also the megaphasers on the primary hull, and the lower photon torpedo tubes):

 

That looks like an updated version of the old Dreadnought class from TOS.

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Posted by sumpter250 on Sunday, February 1, 2009 11:05 AM
Woody, Prayers are with you. Keep your faith strong, and may fortune favor you.

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Posted by Prince of Styrene II on Saturday, January 31, 2009 10:50 PM
Yikes, Woody!  How long ago did the storm hit?  I got my fingers crossed & are sending good thoughts your way.  Take care of that beautiful little girl, okay?  I know you will. Smile [:)]

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Posted by SNOOPY on Saturday, January 31, 2009 10:33 PM

 Woody wrote:
Lucky me the National Guard has issued a curfew and a state of emergency. I haven't been able to join the forum because we are without power, water, and heat, due to a very bad icestorm that has crippled us here in Missouri. I'm on a run for food and a doctor for my sick 3 year old daughter, about a hundred miles from home and found a Wi-Fi signal at a hotel that still has power. It's amazing how quickly the thin coating of civilization rubs away to bring us back to a state of anarchy. They have had fights break out over gas and food. I'm sleeping with my AR-15 and a 9mm pistol. I hope our food holds out. Pray for us and I'll be back online when the world starts back up.

Sounds like you need those prayers.  It is said that in this country where our government is suppose to help us they never seem to actually go through with it.  The National Guard should be bring in suppplies continuosly.  I served in the military and we did some pretty amazing stuff in other countries why can't we do the same here.  We know where and when storms will hit why not get mobolized ahead of time.  Woody, all my prayers to you friends and family.  I love this country and want to see good things happen.  I hope you never have use those weapons.  Godspeed!

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Posted by Woody on Saturday, January 31, 2009 3:55 PM
Lucky me the National Guard has issued a curfew and a state of emergency. I haven't been able to join the forum because we are without power, water, and heat, due to a very bad icestorm that has crippled us here in Missouri. I'm on a run for food and a doctor for my sick 3 year old daughter, about a hundred miles from home and found a Wi-Fi signal at a hotel that still has power. It's amazing how quickly the thin coating of civilization rubs away to bring us back to a state of anarchy. They have had fights break out over gas and food. I'm sleeping with my AR-15 and a 9mm pistol. I hope our food holds out. Pray for us and I'll be back online when the world starts back up.

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Posted by sumpter250 on Sunday, January 25, 2009 3:53 PM

I finally got the Jackill drawings redrawn in scale, for the USS Kodiak NCC 6000 secondary hull.

 

  Scratchbuilding the secondary hull, Warp nacelles, hull and nacelle pylons, will be the first part of this project. Modifying the Reliant kit to represent the Kodiak's primary hull will be part two. I have to figure out exactly what construction method I want to use. the hull will be styrene, at least on the outside, I may opt for micro plywood for the forms, and a secure base to anchor the primary hull to. The complete drawing is in Jackill's Starfleet Reference Manual ships of the fleet Volume II, along with the specs of the class. 

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Posted by Woody on Friday, January 23, 2009 8:50 PM
Looks good so far! I like to use a 50/50 mix of Testors enamel paint and Doctor Mico-Tool putty to fill light scratches. After I let this "thinned" putty dry completely, I wet sand with a 600 grit 3M wet/dry sandpaper. You might have to re-apply the putty mixture and sand again several times to get a perfect finish.

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Posted by SNOOPY on Friday, January 23, 2009 8:25 PM
Woody, I tackled my saucer tonight.  It turn out a lot better than the first one did. Here is a pic of it.   If you see there is still a seam line that can be seen and I have tried everything to get rid of it.  Also, I think you can see them but there are these small grooves in certain areas.  Any idea on how to get rid of them.  I have used the finest sanding block I have which smoothed everything else out but not those grooves.  Will they disappear if I spray it with primer like Mr. Surfacer?
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Posted by Woody on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 9:20 PM
Hey Greg, You don't need a kit. I believe most of us are scratchbuilding. I'm fleshing out a concept sketch of a Manta class destroyer. 95% of my entry will be made from sheet styrene. Come on Greg pick a simple design and go for it!

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Posted by Woody on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 8:03 AM
I use a rotary rasp and coarse sanding drums. I mostly shape with the dremel turning counter to the drill. Be sure to use light pressure with the dremel and support the work piece. If it wobbles, then you'll never get a nice looking part.

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Posted by SNOOPY on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:20 AM

 Woody wrote:
I use a cordless drill to turn the part and a Dremel with a coarse tooth to sculpt the part. Turn the part your cutting slowly and use the dremel on as high as speed as you can that doesn't cause melting.  If the part isn't solidly supported you will get a wavy. uneven surface. I clamp the drill to the workbench, support the back side of the piece with my finger tips(put talc powder on your finger tips), and hold the dremel with my right hand.

Woody, when you use the dremel/moto tool, 1) Which attached do you use a sanding stone or one of the drum sanders? and 2) Which direction do you use the Dremel tool?  I mean is the tool turning counter the drill's rotation or perpendicular to the drills rotation.

I made to new discs to be made into a saucer.  The discs turned out pretty good.  I think they are pretty solid laminated.  I used Super Glue this time and allow 48 hours cure time.  I made the discs by putting them into my drill press, first filing them with a course file, then using a sanding block with medium sandpaper, and then one of those 3M fine sanding sponges.  Can out looking pretty good.  I made sure that things did not get over heated this time.  Tonight I will attempt to make the saucer section.

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Posted by Woody on Monday, January 19, 2009 12:45 PM
I'm working on my layout drawings right now. I've narrowed it down to two slightly different shaped primary hulls. I hope to start cutting plastic in the next couple days.

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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