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The 1/350 Pola "The Hard Way" WIP ~ The Ship that Must Be Built

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, April 25, 2018 8:42 PM

Well this is curious. That's a really old thread. Most of those guys like Aaron and Sean are long gone from here.

Ian, is there something of yours in there? It looks like your model is in there in a quote box.

Look forward to what you have going.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by iain on Wednesday, April 25, 2018 7:47 PM

sfcmac

Hey thank you everyone for the comments and views. This has really turned into a fun and enjoyable challenge to be sure!

I need to pay more attention to what Sean is doing as I totally missed that the kit had the rear main mast wrong as well. It is also a tripod to the first tier at least so chop hop again.

Also modified and mounted the auxillary boats. Didn't want to get to crazy now.

I found so old 1/350 AAA guns that I modified ( a little) They are very Little and replaced the kit ones and added the missing four that were on the Gorizia.

Replacement anchor chain courtesy of Sean!

Here are a few more zoom and flash piccies that make things look a bit gloosy and fouled. From the table it is really looking sharp. I think the Camera must give the optivisor view.  I have been noting flaws I see to correct. Mostly hobby knife clean up and painting but on the whole it looks good.

Here are the positions of the 8 PE guns. Aft mast guns.

 

 

Forward Forecastle guns.

 

 

Stern buggers

 

 

and the forward behind the gun guns on perforated platforms with sprue supports.

 

 

well ive had mine on order for a week now . this is a bit of insiration for me

would like to know however the chain size you used

thanks

iain

 

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Posted by sfcmac on Wednesday, October 7, 2009 7:35 PM

 Hey everyone the builds are now complete. Sean insisted I post the finished thread so please check it out! His Pola turned out most incredible!  I can't believe it is the HobbyBoss kit!

 My thanks to all who viewed , helped and encouraged us!  You made a great build between friends all the more exciting for us!  Bow [bow]

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Posted by wyoroy on Tuesday, October 6, 2009 2:20 PM
Aaron & Sean, that's some great work guys.

Roy (Capt. Wyoroy FAAGB/USNFAWGB)

John 3:16

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Posted by Summit on Tuesday, October 6, 2009 9:44 AM

Bill -  Thank you for looking in and the nice comments.  Taking a kit like this and seeing what we can do with it is one of our most favorite things to do. This is my first ship since I was a Teenager, mostly I build aircraft.

I have a few updates to add , the booms for the lifeboats were not to my liking. Using some solder , brass wire and C/A these were really easy and quick to make.

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Taking Aarons advice I made a little "sprue log" to get the aircraft up high enough to clear the deck obstacles instead of a cradle you wont see anyway. I also made "doghouses" for the chain out of 4 small strips of styrene. A piece of plastistruct box channel would of been ideal  - but you work with what you have on hand.

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And the aircraft crane was made from two pieces of wire soldered together, stretched sprue for the pulleys and block, hook from a piece of .010" brass wire and I stretched what seemed to be a mile of sprue to get a piece thin enough for the cable. Also a small piece of aluminum tube for the base. 

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Thanks for looking

Dave -  I am so looking forward to seeing the pics of your "Snowberry"  Thumbs Up [tup]

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by razordws on Sunday, October 4, 2009 12:29 AM
Sean, Aaron, good looking work guys.  Sean I think I'm going to have to send you my lifeboats from the snowberry.  Yours look so good in 1/350 scale that I'd really like to see what you could do in 1/72 scale.  Wink [;)]  Aaron, a whole crew in 1/350 scale.  What are you drinking... I want some!!! Tongue [:P]Propeller [8-]

Dave

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Posted by warshipguy on Saturday, October 3, 2009 2:44 PM

I am very impressed with your work, especially on a mediocre kit.  I have long been in love with WWII Italian ships and wish that the manufacturers would start releasing kits of these very beautiful ships!

Bill Morrison

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Posted by Summit on Saturday, October 3, 2009 2:31 PM

Guy -  You know what a machine Aaron is. He is still working away at the bench at 3:am while eating Burrito's and drinking Dunkin Donuts Coffee...... Not sure which one it is he gets the energy from..Shock [:O]

Updates - I am getting down to assembling the sub assemblys I have spread all over the bench.  The kit supplied mast and yard arms was not to impressive at all..

Photobucket It does have potential but I did not want to give the effort.

It was much easier to fab a new one that would be sturdier. Using bits of tubing and wire the madness began.

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The results

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And in place, yes it is leaning aft but it is only temporally sitting on the locator pin.

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Thanks for looking in.

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by Luftwoller on Saturday, October 3, 2009 6:34 AM

Ah ha, Ive found you both. Dont you know its way past your bedtimes? How did you manage to get in over here? they must have very low standards thats all im saying LOL.

As for the builds. Stellar lads, absolutely Stellar. Youve made a committed aircraft man, crave a ship to build. Dont think id have the patience or talent to do half the scratchin you 2 have though.

Now ive found you both, im here for the long run. So keep the updates a coming. Is there a prize for who finishes 1st? LOL.

...Guy

..'Your an embarrassment to the human genus, makes me ashamed to call myself Homo'.
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Posted by sfcmac on Friday, October 2, 2009 10:36 PM

 Man I Am loving those rafts! they look better than the ref pic!  A great effect well worth your efforts!  Do I smell popcorn? An Optivisor would make me simply irresistable to all the girls! As it is I have to be cautious leaving the house!

 That ref pic is so much more detailed than what the kit gives you and your making it even better than that! Great stuff!

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Posted by Summit on Friday, October 2, 2009 1:10 PM

Frank -  It still amazes me that Aaron does not use an Optivisor.. I use one combined with a set of reading glasses and I still have a battle with the bits..

Back to the Pola, I started adding the scratched liferafts. The supplied kit picture has them a Very Yellow color with red stripes. (makes for a good target)  

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I had brought to my attention the centers were to "yellow" so digging in the spares box I found some leftover mesh from a "King Tiger" grill . I made a pattern and went from there.

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Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, October 1, 2009 9:00 PM

Boy, those people are REALLY small!  Aaron- Are you wearing an optivisor yet?  If you're not, you better get one before your brain explodes! Shock [:O]

Again, love those life preservers- brilliant idea. Bow [bow]

Sean- Cutting off floats?  Wires for struts, in 1/350?  Are you guys BOTH nutz? Propeller [8-]

Frank 

 

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Posted by sfcmac on Thursday, October 1, 2009 5:43 PM

 Wow! Thanks a bunch fellows! Bow [bow] Sean that Aircraft is looking good! It should be sputtering off into the sky at any moment!

 Have done a coupe things I'd like to share here.

Sorry Frank! I messed up on the coffee cups but Ol Bondo sez they drink eppresso anyways in Italy. Make a Toast [#toast] Small cups and mine look more like Modern art tumblers.

 As far as the crew though I am trying these little PE fellows for the first time.

 They gave me fits positioning and falling over until I came up with a system that worked.

 I put little beads of white glue on the bottoms of their legs and let it dry. I have read it can also be used to give the flat PE fellows some 3d form but my eyes were going crossed.Dunce [D)]

After it dryed I grabbed them by the head with tweezers and dipped their feet into som CA and they stuck the 1st time everytime. Gave enough lee way to get them good and straight then when fully dry they are on there really sturdy.

 Now I am sure this probably has been explained 1000 times by the expert shipmakers here but I learned a few things this 1st time using them.

 You should put them in place as you build to allow some to be positioned in hard to reach areas that can't be accessed after built.

They look more convincing in numbers. 2 or 3 fellows on a spot rather than single figures spread across the ship.

The scare crow poses can actually be bent and modified to have a more natural look.

 Probably coulda learnt more but I got tired. My Brain hurt 2 or 3 things a day is my limit.

 

Not wanting to get too fancy buying extras I used the internet, My printer and Power point to create some scale flags that were accurate in look.  Decals on lead foil may give a better wavy appearance but these are more like the old Revell stamp flags as that what I was used to as a kid.

The National flag, The Italian Naval Battle Banner, and the Italian Naval Ensign shown above with a couple of signal pennants.

An Admiral's flag forward.

Italian Naval service flag on the bow and the stern is empty as she is on a high priority convoy defense mission to North Africa.

Here are a couple shots of the crew forward. Servicing the RO-40 and such.

You can see my life perservers on the railings as well. I think they make a nice touch to the plain railings.

 Thanks for bearing with me fellows your the best!

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, October 1, 2009 11:41 AM

WOW!

Sean sent me this link to show me what he was up to, and I have to say that you guys are kicking BUTT on these builds!

You should SERIOUSLY consider writing this up as an article for FSM! It's got an "angle" that is really compelling and unique--the "team effort" thing.

Looks incredible, guys! 

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Posted by Summit on Thursday, October 1, 2009 11:41 AM

Darren -  Thanks for looking in. Yeah we jumped ship over in the FAA for a small break... I will have more updates on the Sea Gladiator after I finish messing with this Regi RO-43..

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 I added some fine wire forwing struts and sawed the pontooons off the lower wings and re ~ attached with wire also.. Blindfold [X-)]

No area for the pilots so I drilled out two "offices" 

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Sheesch my prop does not look as nice as Aarons P/E prop.. Sigh [sigh]

Oh well time to mask and paint the candy stripes on the upper wing Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank -  I have no clue what may be next Wink [;)] Great idea though..

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, October 1, 2009 6:40 AM

Cutting sections of Q-tips for life preservers?  Now THAT is absolutely brilliant!  What next?  Officers on the deck with little cups of coffee in their hand?

Great stuff guys, keep it coming!

Frank 

 

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:11 PM

Good Heavens!

I wondered where you chaps had got to! I am most impressed with your sterling efforts gentlemen, well done indeed! Thumbs Up [tup]

Now, back to the mayhem......................!!!!Mischief [:-,]Big Smile [:D]

 

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by lewbud on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:09 PM

Sean,

I think you're falling a bit behind, get crackin sir!

Mac,

Looking good.  Would've never thought about using the qtips as life preservers.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by sfcmac on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:39 AM

 Hey thanks Frank!  Your doing tanks now! Heaven help us if you invade the ship forum!!!! Laugh [(-D] Jump in the water is fine!

Sean that candy strip marking looks good enough to eat!

 I got some good work done today though, the ship is rigged and spot painting mostly done except for some lighter gray.  Maybe some railing touch ups.  Really going to pre paint the big round the hull jobbers.

Still thinking about where to put the life boats on mine. The location on the ship has no boats in my pics of the Gorizia but maybe farther up with the hoist in a stowed position as far as I can tell.

Hmmm still thinking on it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can start to see how the roughness and little oopsies are being cosmetially covered with details that grab your eye.  A bit more and it should almost pass as a ship? LOL!

Got another idea!

I was putting on my rails when I realized I forgot the straw tip you mentioned for the secondary guns!  Finding Dee's left over diet soda I stole her straw!  Why do people chew straws? But I found an unchewed area and went for it!

 

 

Then It dawned on me I have hollow plastic shafted pointy Q-tips! So I did the same thing!

 

 

Why would he do that tou ask? Well paint then red. Add some white. and presto!

 

 

 Life savers!  A little big. Not much I think they will pass on the rails if not overdone!

 

 

Whatcha think?

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:20 PM

Man, you guys are good!  Scratchbuilt details?  Custom painted 1/350 aircraft?  Real anchor chains?  PE parts? Shock [:O]

Love that little plane Aaron.  And Sean- that striped fore deck- YOWZA!!!

Seriously, this is good stuff.  No, I mean REALLY good stuff.   Keep it up fellas, good to know who to come to when I build a ship. Bow [bow]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Summit on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:57 AM

Hey Aaron - What happened to this being an OOB Build ?  Your Goriza looks very busy with all the scratchbuilt additions.. Thumbs Up [tup] Yours looks ready to deploy and mine is still dry docked on the bench.

I also rebuilt the life boat crane... The kit's boom wasnt to my liking so with some wire, aluminum tubing and stretched sprue here is my replacement.

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 Started adding some railing to the structure, also used a 7 mm length of a "soda straw" to hide the button tab under the forward secondary gun..

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And lots of masking and painting as my hand is hardly steady enough for brush painting.

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This mornings progress the stripes for the "candy cane" forward deck .

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Now to start adding the little details..Thumbs Up [tup]

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by sfcmac on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 7:50 AM

I am overdue for an update here so I shall try to show a bit more progress. Sean and I undertook this project thinking it was going to be an easy quick practice to hone our skills for bigger and better kits. So far we both have worked all month on it finding little ways to improve on this old kit.

I made a very small flag pole that looked in scale with the live photo's he supports are 1 rail of PE railings cut in 1/2.

Then I turned my attention to the forward deck. Figured it was time to start nose to tail and get it all together.

Sean's anchor chain looks perfect to me! He also suggestested small boxes to mark where the chain originates at the deck! Brilliant!

The anchors are cast copies of the Banner Arizona kit. Modified to look like the photos of the actual ship again. Small stretched sprue placed into drilled holes and forced down into them made a good anchor lock with which the anchors lock onto and hug as in the pics again.

A piece of scrap PE from the Trumpeter Swordfish was cut. (tough stuff ) to shape and used to  elevated the catapult platform slightly.

I used this great picture as my reference. Notice the platform which the aircraft sits on to ride the catapult?

Using some scrap railings again I bent and formed the platform into shape and painted it semi gloss black.

The little details are starting to add up and make a good visual difference.

The aircraft was kinda lifeless and bland in my eyes. So going in blind as I had no idea of the type I started detailing it.

The great fellows over at the RA GB helped me to ID this recon plane as the RO-43.

They are a great bunch of fellows over there! Bondo and Guy jumped on this question before I could spell airplane.Bow [bow]

So I kept on detailing the 1/350 recon RO-43 Drilled out crew compartments added floats and some struts with the scrap PE railings again. Good stuff! 1000 uses!

Notice the tail stripes? Wrong way they should be vertical! Did this at 3AM and Sir Bondo didn't let me get away with it!

Looking much better especially after I fixed the tail.

Getting there bit by bit. Sean's scratch build life rafts are awesome!  None in the kit were given and his match up perfect to the pics. Thumbs Up [tup]

This project is a massive team effort and I really appreciate all the help and comments. You all are the best!

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Posted by wyoroy on Saturday, September 26, 2009 8:50 AM
Aaron, great work on the crane.

Roy (Capt. Wyoroy FAAGB/USNFAWGB)

John 3:16

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Posted by Summit on Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:34 AM

Fantastic Crane Aaron Approve [^] Thumbs Up [tup]... My question is how many pulleys did you lose ? On my Lifeboat crane I have lost over half a dozen to places unknown to me in my Hobby Room. They all dissapeared by the sound of a Tweezer snap  Taped Shut [XX]

 I need to get some more progress posted- eh tomorrow will work for that..Whistling [:-^]

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by sfcmac on Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:10 AM
 Sorry Dave musta posted at the same time!  Anyways Thanks and somehow, Yes even in the ship forum this has got to be your fault!!!!! Laugh [(-D] Ever since Ritchie talked me into that 1/72 PE for the Swordfish!!! Wink [;)]
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Posted by sfcmac on Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:07 AM

Hmmmm tough crowd tonight. Black Eye [B)]

 While I really like how the PE stuff adds to the look for the smaller forward crane for the aircraft which is not included in the Pola kit. I decided to go the old fashioned route. Spares box yielded and old crane from a kit long ago sunk in the river as a child no doubt.   Looking at the drawing provided  for the markings and colors ,which is much more accurate than the model itself, It seemed to be the right size. Close enough for me. Thumbs Up [tup]

 Now to spruce it up just a little with some 1/350 scratching.

I like the PE hook on the  big crane so to make my own I took some of my Pe rail cutting scraps and took a single rail cut in 1/2.  Then I simply bent it around a dowel made from stretched sprue and made the hook.

I then took the same sprue dowel and cut two cross sections small as I could to give round plastic pulleys.

 Using the shap small tip of the knife to pick up the small cross sections I trapped the hook between them and applied liquid cement to melt the whole thing together. Use  only a little or it will disolve the whole pulley!

 To really make things thin and interesting I stretched already stretched sprue to get the ultimate in this styrene but used the medium sized stuff as it was easier to work with and sturdy enough to build with.

 Put it all together and you have a not so bad scratched crane ready for painting and mounting.

Just to make it interesting I did all of this in the dark with my bare hands and standing on my head.  ( At least it felt that way! )

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Posted by razordws on Friday, September 25, 2009 11:58 PM
Sean, Aaron, looking good guys.  Your putting a lot of work into these kits Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Dave

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Posted by sfcmac on Friday, September 25, 2009 6:58 PM

Ok here is the start of the crane.

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Posted by sfcmac on Friday, September 25, 2009 5:49 PM

Hey thank you everyone for the comments and views. This has really turned into a fun and enjoyable challenge to be sure! Party [party]

I need to pay more attention to what Sean is doing as I totally missed that the kit had the rear main mast wrong as well. It is also a tripod to the first tier at least so chop hop again.

Also modified and mounted the auxillary boats. Didn't want to get to crazy now.

I found so old 1/350 AAA guns that I modified ( a little) They are very Little and replaced the kit ones and added the missing four that were on the Gorizia.

Replacement anchor chain courtesy of Sean!Thumbs Up [tup]

Here are a few more zoom and flash piccies that make things look a bit gloosy and fouled. From the table it is really looking sharp. I think the Camera must give the optivisor view.  I have been noting flaws I see to correct. Mostly hobby knife clean up and painting but on the whole it looks good.

Here are the positions of the 8 PE guns. Aft mast guns.

 

 

Forward Forecastle guns.

 

 

Stern buggers

 

 

and the forward behind the gun guns on perforated platforms with sprue supports.

 

 

Well now to tackle the Cranes and life boats!

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