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Zvezda 1/72 English Medieval Ship Thomas - Fin 28 April 2014

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  • From: Tempe AZ
Posted by docidle on Friday, November 29, 2013 11:11 PM

Dave,

Thanks!  I agree, Zvezda makes good looking blocks and I will use those on this build like I did on the Hanse Kogge.  But I just could not bring myself to use the ready made deadeyes or the kit provided rigging line.  I also used the decals for the shields and they did not come out too bad especially after I weathered them.  I think it shows on one of the pictures of the fore and aft castles and if not, I'll post one.

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by docidle on Friday, November 29, 2013 11:24 PM

Here is a really bad photo of the shields.  They had a gloss coat on and are not weathered or placed on the ship (DUH).  I'll need to try and take another picture but in the meantime try not to be TOO blinded by the reflection.

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by docidle on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 1:04 PM

Working on the anchor lines.

Steve

 

       

 

 

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Posted by docidle on Thursday, December 12, 2013 1:22 PM

Secured the anchors and glued the knee on.

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by docidle on Tuesday, December 17, 2013 2:23 PM

I found that with the anchors secured as per instructions, the forecastle would not sit right.  There was a gap between the deck and the aft vertical supports.  So I painted some stock styrene and after priming, painting and cutting I glued them in.  Not perfect but better than the gap.  Here is the sequence if interested.

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, December 21, 2013 12:45 AM

Most elegant progress--congratulations!

One thing that caught my eye was the elegant way the anchor line went round the capstan..  It keeps things neat and orderly.  So, I'd keep it that way even though turning the capstan would heave one line in while paying the other out.  Pushme-Pullyou!

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Posted by docidle on Saturday, December 21, 2013 3:30 PM

Thanks Capn'  My navy training wants things squared away and even though I know it is a push me pull you rig, I think it works quite well.  That is, until we actually have to take in an anchor!

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by infofrog on Saturday, December 21, 2013 5:33 PM

ToastWhat a awesome build .Super great photos

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Posted by docidle on Wednesday, December 25, 2013 12:05 AM

Thanks IF, I appreciate the kudos.  Regarding the pictures, I am finally getting the hang of my digital camera so that I can actually see the progression following my other posts.

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by Big Jake on Wednesday, December 25, 2013 9:07 AM

Steve,

Can you please post a quick list of the oils and colors you used.  I sent you a PM but you may not have had a chance to read it yet.  I've used mainly enamels and have no experience with oils, so a tutorial is needed.  

I'm cleaning out my stash and am focusing on just historic and time line ship in my collection.  I got the Thomas and would like to do mine as close to your as possible.

Thanks

Jake Groby

Lacombe, LA.

 

 

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Posted by docidle on Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:28 AM

Jake,

I sent you a PM.

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by docidle on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:11 PM

Here are some pictures of the rope ladder I constructed for the Thomas.  Octavius is there as usual for scale perspective.  I'll take some better pics later and post them since I still have not oiled the rungs and they look a bit flat.

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:16 PM

Steve, not to be a pill but maybe the rungs are a bit over sized? Just a gut thing...

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by docidle on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:23 PM

GM,

Now that you mention it, they are a bit.  Although they are close to the ladders on the fore and aft castle which look a bit over scale too.  Back to the drawing board…….

Thanks,

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by docidle on Friday, January 17, 2014 9:52 PM

After trying different approaches I tore out the ladder and then tried to remember how to tie tiny clove hitches to make a "real" rope ladder.  The first knot took me about 20 minutes total and the second….. about 15.  When I go to the fourth line, I was humming along tying a clove hitch in about  a minute tops.

These shots are just a practice rope ladder to see if I could still do it and what would be the most efficient process.  It is a bit hard seeing the rungs but they're there.  I am now soaking the line to get the kinks out before I wax it.  Then we'll be in business to make a rope ladder.

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by David_K on Saturday, January 18, 2014 9:52 AM

I like it!  I remember a piece of advice I've heard here on the forum....and I'm paraphrasing:

"If in doubt about the scale, err on the small side."

Your first ladder didn't look too bad to me, but the smaller one definitely seems to fit into the scene better!

Well done, my friend!  Can't wait to see the finished product!

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Posted by docidle on Saturday, January 18, 2014 10:09 PM

Thanks Dave and I agree, it is better to err on the side of smaller than larger.  After trying so hard not to rig the line I end up having to, I guess I should never have said that I wasn't going to tie this ladder..... Karma in a weird sort of way.

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by docidle on Sunday, March 9, 2014 6:20 PM

After a long period away from the work desk, I was able to actually start the rigging on this "ship that will never be finished".  After four attempts at rigging a rope ladder I decided to put that on the back burner for a bit.  I now know four ways not to rig the ladder!  So, beginning with the starboard shrouds I rigged wooden deadeyes instead of the plastic ones included in the kit.  I will use the blocks from the kit as they are actually rather nice.  Here is the sequence I took for the first two starboard shrouds.

Enjoy,

Steve

 

Yes, I did sneak in a port side shroud, since I did not take a photo of that step on the starboard side.

       

 

 

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Posted by Marcus McBean on Sunday, March 9, 2014 7:00 PM

Good to see you back.  Our pictures will come in real handy when I get to that step.  I can't wait to see the final product, nice work.

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Posted by infofrog on Sunday, March 9, 2014 8:32 PM

looks great  from here

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Posted by docidle on Monday, March 10, 2014 8:58 PM

The Thanks guys.  I am adding these pictures today so that you can actually see what the heck I was doing.

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by docidle on Friday, March 14, 2014 10:14 PM

The standing rigging is done at long last!  I'll start on the running rigging this weekend..... hopefully.  There are a few tweaks I need to make but all in all I am somewhat pleased.

Enjoy

Steve

 

       

 

 

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Posted by John Lyle on Saturday, March 29, 2014 11:29 AM

This is plastic????!!!! Sure looks great, more like aged wood to me. Good job.

Winters may be cold in Canada but at least there are no mosquitoes or blackflies

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Posted by docidle on Tuesday, April 1, 2014 12:35 AM

Thanks John, I appreciate the kudos and thank you checking out my build.

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by docidle on Tuesday, April 1, 2014 12:40 AM

I have a great number of photos regarding the running rigging.  I will try and post them in sequential order so bear with me if I make a mistake.  I am ALMOST finished and all in all it came out pretty decent.

We’ll start with a single block. This is a kit block so it needed to be cleaned up, painted and then oiled. I just painted the stropping Black to match the standing rigging. 

Enjoy,

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by docidle on Tuesday, April 1, 2014 12:41 AM

Then using the Magic Hands, Extra Hands device from Micro Mark (well worth the investment of less than $20 USD). Note that the line being used is lighter than the standing rigging. Standing rigging is tarred to protect the lines and so is either a Black or Dark Brown to simulate the tar.

The running rigging on the other hand isn’t tarred and therefore lighter, usually a Light Tan or even a Light Gray.

So the first photo shows the line running through the end of the strop.

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by docidle on Tuesday, April 1, 2014 12:43 AM

I prefer using CA(SuperGlue), but white glue is just as effective but takes longer to dry. A little dab will do ya’! I either use a toothpick or a thin copper  wire to apply CA.

 

       

 

 

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Posted by docidle on Tuesday, April 1, 2014 12:44 AM

To secure the line, tie the smaller sewing thread around the two lines and pull tight. You can use a bit of CA now If you wish to secure the thread before wrapping it. Note in the last photo that I use Waxed Paper for my CA glue; CA doesn’t stick to Waxed Paper so it’s a handy and cheap glue holder.

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by docidle on Tuesday, April 1, 2014 12:46 AM

I usually use about four to five turns before trying of the line.

       

 

 

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Posted by docidle on Tuesday, April 1, 2014 12:51 AM

And finally a dab of CA and then clip off the ends and you are set to do all the blocks now! I can’t express enough about how much using the Extra Hands tool is. It makes working with blocks SO much easier.

Steve

       

 

 

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