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victory instructions
Posted by steve5 on Monday, May 26, 2014 1:42 AM
I have heard, that earlier instructions for the victory were a lot more informative than the rubbish supplied these days if any one has any I love to have a set.,steve

 

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  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Monday, May 26, 2014 4:37 AM

We'll, I was sent one for review back when the kit was brand new (in 1978 or thereabouts). The instructions in that one were awful. I was, and continue to be, especially disgusted by the English "translation," which in fact is no such thing. It was written by somebody who (a) couldn't read French and (b) had never tried to build the model. This in a kit that, even in those days, cost over a hundred dollars. I've used every opportunity I can find to gripe about this for about thirty-five years now, utterly without success.

I've heard that Imai, when it distributed the kit, threw in a better instruction book. But I haven't seen it.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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  • From: Summerville, SC
Posted by jeffpez on Monday, May 26, 2014 10:31 AM

I assume you're referring to Heller's kit. I have English instructions but don't know if they're what is currently included with the kit or date back to the 70's when it was first introduced. They're not like the Soleil Royal plans that have silly English translations in the back to supplement the French but are completely in English from start to finish. If you want to take a look send me an email address.

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, May 26, 2014 11:59 AM

Imai completely rewrote the instruction book, with better drawings and corrections to the many errors.

It's a staple bound booklet on glassy magazine stock with some four color images.

It's like comparing the supermarket ad supplements in the paper to a copy of Scientific American.

Even though the text is Japanese, the drawings and steps shown are completely understandable.

Now I come from the days of the old Frog kits with a single "exploded" view, but still.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Summerville, SC
Posted by jeffpez on Monday, May 26, 2014 12:48 PM

Does anyone have a copy? I'd sure like to have one.

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, May 26, 2014 2:38 PM

would it be too much to ask mr gmorris for a copy pretty please or where I could get a copy

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, May 26, 2014 6:49 PM

G Morrison has a copy. I give one away about once a month.

It's time for me to  find out what if any copyright laws apply.

Any ideas?

Tim?

Otherwise I'll just put them up.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by steve5 on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:13 AM

thanks to all those who replied found them on   picasaweb.google.com/.../lmaivictoryinstructions

 

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Posted by Kolvir on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 6:59 PM

I can't seem to find anything  on picaweb with that, do have a complete link?

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Posted by steve5 on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:19 PM

buy the look of it you missed the s&a in picasaweb

 

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Posted by steve5 on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:39 PM

I'm sorry kolvir I should have just said go to the.,{ Iami version of the instructions on the 1/100 hms victory } look for kevinw he has the site ready to go., goodluck

 

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  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:45 PM

The link opened fine for me.  Those drawings are indeed better than the ones I remember from the kit I reviewed.  

My only other observation would be that the rigging instructions are extremely simplified.  Nothing but the standing rigging and the most basic running rigging.  And a few of the lines shown don't make sense. 

For many modelers, that amount of rigging will be just about right.  I would suggest, though, that if you want to put the sails on you do some additional reading about running rigging.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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