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Trumpeter 1:350 HMS Dreadnought 1907

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Trumpeter 1:350 HMS Dreadnought 1907
Posted by pathvet9 on Thursday, July 25, 2019 6:02 PM

I am just starting this beast and already have aftermarket wooden deck and other Eduard PE to come.

My question today is about these "holes" in the upper hull, all the way around. I think they might be ports and thus would they be best drilled out? I know the one that I circled is actually for the net booms. 

Cheers, Jake

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Posted by Nino on Friday, July 26, 2019 12:28 PM

Those holes/depressions are Port Holes.  Most of us drill'em out. 

     Option to to use some Tempra-type paint to fill the holes- them wipe off excess on hull works too. The port holes really stand out with gloss black.

     Another option.... I have tried drilling the port holes in another model , painting the hull, then using Testors Crystal Clear in each port hole to simulate glass, and then adding the deck.  However, I found this to be awkward as I feared, with good reason,  scratching or marring the painting on the hull while getting the deck glued in place. I just drill now.

Glad you spotted the locations for the Torpedo net booms

You can make your own Torpedo net to be rolled up against the hull.  I read of one modeler using thin black shoe lace.

To show the net extended there is some PE out there to show it hung in place but it is sized for a water-line display.

I have not built the Dreadnought but I am interested in getting the Trumpeter kit as I consider it better than the Zvezda version.

Thanks for starting this thread.  Sign me up for the duration.

     Nino

  

 

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Posted by pathvet9 on Friday, July 26, 2019 12:51 PM

Nino - thanks for the help. Yes, I want to drill them out as I am pulling out all the stops with this kit and the add-ons. Still waiting for 2 sheets of Eduard PE.

As to the ports, I too had thought to use Micro Kristal Klear and will try that from the inside before I close the deck. If not, I will try some of the left-over plastic sheets I have from some HO windows, again from the inside.

I also saw mention of grills for the chain lockers so I am using some old screens from a tank project, again from the inside.

As to the torpedo nets, I will wait to see what the PE sheets have.

I will post more as I receive them, thanks for the interest.   Smile

 

Cheers, Jake

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Posted by freem on Sunday, July 28, 2019 9:26 PM

I'll be following you on this.  I got the kit last year with the deck and other goodies. I also agree that the Trumpeter kit is the best after some research before I invested in all that plastic, metal and wood.

There is an article from 2017 (I believe) in FSM that will be a great tutorial in the construction, and was the inspiration for me to get it. Always been one of my favorite ships. 

Chris Christenson

 

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Posted by pathvet9 on Monday, July 29, 2019 4:09 PM

Chris - I have that October 2015 tutorial and am using some of those ideas, such as adding grills to the hawsepipes, from below.

I am also going to add some ribs (maybe not 16), as I see them in some of the photos I searched.

Also, I have drilled out all the many ports and filled from behind with Krystal Clear. Think it looks OK on this super deck. 

Pictures to follow after I sort out my Photobucket account. Do not want to pay $6.29 for upgrade. What are others using?

Cheers, Jake

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Posted by pathvet9 on Monday, July 29, 2019 4:34 PM

Well, here are the 2 pictures but don't think I will be able to continue with Photobucket as they say I am using 20.5 of 25MB band-width. Don't know what it means but seems like Photobucket may not be the way to go now??    Huh?

Cheers, Jake

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Posted by pathvet9 on Monday, July 29, 2019 7:41 PM

Another question for someone more astute than me. I bought the Wood Hunter deck and also got some PE. I understand most all but 2 and 3 have me perplexed as to where to put them.

And frankly, I am also having some trouble figuring out where some of the Trumpeter sub-assemblies are supposed to be used once built.

HELP??//   Stick out tongue

Cheers, Jake

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Posted by pathvet9 on Monday, July 29, 2019 7:43 PM
Wouldn't you know that Photobucket obliterated the detail I wanted to show. Any other options would be most appreciated!!

Cheers, Jake

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Posted by Marcus McBean on Tuesday, July 30, 2019 7:13 PM

Those holes are to mount the booms for the torpedo nets.

Mark

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Posted by pathvet9 on Tuesday, July 30, 2019 8:02 PM
Thanks Marcus - I have drilled and filled the ports and have rigged the poles in the proper holes that I circled.

Cheers, Jake

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Friday, August 02, 2019 11:35 AM

Hi;

 When I drill out ports , I always use .020 clear sheet inside painted black on the inside. I seems to work well in all scales.I learned this from the stuff I do with trains .

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Posted by pathvet9 on Friday, August 02, 2019 12:16 PM

Hi Tankbuilder - yes, I have done that with my HO RR projects and considered it but there were so many and so tiny that I decided the Krystal Klear would be effective.

Thanks for the tip.

Cheers, Jake

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, August 02, 2019 12:30 PM

pathvet9
I understand most all but 2 and 3 have me perplexed as to where to put them.

Those are hose reels. #2 is how it looks on the tree and #3 is what it should look after bending. I use a piece of small round sprue, usualy from Evergreen, to use as the center of the reel. I will sometimes also wind some small gage fishing line around the sprue to simulate the hose.

My 1/350 Prince of Wales........still in progress Embarrassed

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, August 02, 2019 12:34 PM

BTW, for photo hosting I use Imageshack, no adds and no watermark but that just me. Others use other hosting sites and avoid Photobucket like the plague

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Posted by pathvet9 on Friday, August 02, 2019 4:09 PM

Steve - thanks so much for the help with the reels. I kind of figured that is what they might be but am not sure where they are going to fit on the Dreadnought, but I will use your example as a start.

Thanks also for the help with the miserable Photobucket. I will give Imageshack a look.

 

Bow Down

Cheers, Jake

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, August 02, 2019 4:15 PM

Thanks Jake, you should just be able to shave off, or leave off, the kits reels and install the PE ones. It doesnt look like there are any instructions for placement so that's what I'd do.

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Posted by pathvet9 on Friday, August 02, 2019 7:55 PM

So far, I have not been able to ID any kit reels so we shall see. BTW, your Price of Wales looks outstanding.

Cheers, Jake

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, August 02, 2019 11:56 PM

Thank you Jake

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Posted by Sigep Ziggy on Sunday, August 04, 2019 6:13 AM

photoimage.org is the one I use, because photobucket was such a chore to use, and I could not get it to work right. When using photoimage.org, I use the direct link under share, and here I use 600x400 in the size box. Hope that helps.

your shipmate,

Ziggy

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Posted by pathvet9 on Sunday, August 04, 2019 11:54 AM
Thanks so much for the help. I now have 2 sites to explore and can sh...can Photobucket.

Cheers, Jake

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Posted by pathvet9 on Monday, August 05, 2019 3:37 PM

So I could not find photoimage.org - think the site is for sale??

So this is my first try with Image Shack.  Kind of a test     Surprise

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I have added the welded ribs that are pointed out in FSM October 2015 article by Bill Plunk.

But I did not use or see in my photos more than 12, so thought that was enough. Also, should definitely done this BEFORE painting the hull. Duh.   Embarrassed

Cheers, Jake

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, August 05, 2019 4:49 PM

Well, live and learn LOL. That's nothing to the mess ups I've done.

I love Imageshack. They have never done me wrong. A few years back they had a small problem and lost a few picks of their members but were able to retrieve them.  No issues since. The best thing that I like is you can upload to different sizes from thumbnail to large, or can put in your own dimensions. I usually upload "Medium"

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Posted by pathvet9 on Monday, August 05, 2019 6:42 PM
thanks for the help. I paid the $20 for a year.

Cheers, Jake

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Posted by scottrc on Thursday, August 08, 2019 4:20 PM

pathvet9
thanks for the help. I paid the $20 for a year.
 

I also use Image Shack and really like it.  Its well worth the $20.

I will be following you on this build.  I accidently got sent the wooden deck for the 1/700 scale kit and plan to build it someday.  

Scott

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Posted by pathvet9 on Friday, August 09, 2019 12:14 PM
Scott - thanks for the feedback. I will try to keep the thread moving in the build. Right now, I am drilling out the 26 tiny guns for the replacement barrels as well as working on the large guns which do not have any locating marks on them for the housing openings. As mentioned in the FSM article, I am using drilled sprue to secure them in place at the proper angle and will add epoxy to complete. Pictures to follow.

Cheers, Jake

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Posted by pathvet9 on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 5:06 PM

Another duh moment as I should have painted the PE piece dark gray before adding it and saving all that taping

Anyway, here is the jig I used to bend those 2 stanchions. 

In all, took about 2 days on those main guns and I still have the small guns and 2 railings to finish them.

Cheers, Jake

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, August 15, 2019 9:09 AM

After drilling the holes out, I have always waited till the hull was painted and put in liquid window material from the front.  It does sound easier to do it from the rear. But, for you who do it that way, do you paint the hull halves first, then do the seam afterwards, or do you have some way to mask the tiny windows?

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by pathvet9 on Thursday, August 15, 2019 9:39 AM

Don - in my case, I painted the hull after assemblying its 2 halves but before laying the deck on. I painted the deck before putting down the wood so that I would not have to paint again. 

So I put the liquid film inside before laying the deck and thus did not need to do any masking. Hope that makes sense.  Stick out tongue

Cheers, Jake

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Posted by 1943Mike on Thursday, August 15, 2019 10:47 PM

Jake,

I just want to put a plug in for another free image hosting site ... Postimage.org. I originally began posting images to this site using Photobucket and then, after the debacle, switched to Flickr. Now that Flickr's been taken over, I'm using Postimage.org. Seems to work for me.

 

Mike

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