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Posted by Thuntboss on Wednesday, February 17, 2021 12:42 PM

GMORRISON,

My Dad served aboard USS Bennington from 1954 to 1958, if memory serves. Machinists Mate 2nd Class Charles L. Hass {Chuck to his pals and family}.

Yes, "Big Benn" definately had some troubles but counted among it's chiefest accomplishments is the fact that the first Torpedo planes and Dive Bombers that scored the first direct hits on IJN Yamato to help sink her, were from USS Bennington attack squadrons.

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Posted by jabunn on Friday, February 5, 2021 4:14 PM

I may be an oddball; however, my two cents would be for the following classes:

Fast Combat Support Ships

Fleet Replinishment Oilers

Strategic Sealift Program ships

These may not be as sexy as frontline fighting vessels, but sail without and you go nowhere.  These would enrich diarama opportunities endlessly.

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Posted by ships4ever on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 4:23 PM

We have 1/350 kits for Liberty ships, so how about some love for Victory ships or T-2 tankers as well? I'm just finishing up the old Revell Esso Glasgow, which is decades old, so a modern kit of that vessel type would be great. It would also be interesting to see some kits of "never was" ships, such as the South Dakota class, which was a victim of the Washington naval treaty. Or how about Lexington in its original battlecruiser guise, especially the design with 7(!!!!) stacks?

On the bench: 1/350 Trumpeter HMS Dreadnought; 1/350 Academy USS Reuben James FFG-57

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, January 18, 2021 11:14 PM

Thuntboss

... and as far as a Essex Class is concerned, give me USS Bennington, CV-20 {CVA-20, CVS-20} as it was my Dad's ship back in the 50's.

Not on this scale being discussed, but the venerable Revell Essex class model on 1/540ish IS the Bennington. That model was sold as about every other Essex ship but.

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, January 18, 2021 11:05 PM

Jeff Head

 

 
warshipguy

I would love to see a 1/350 USS Midway with the original axial deck and with their final angle decks.  I would also like to see any of the Forrestal class in their original configurations.

Bill

 

 

 

USS Midway CV-41aircraft carrier model 1/350 scale Can be made from Trumpter’s 1/350 model of CV-9, the Essex, CV-9, which was made with the 1st and 2nd modernizations. You just need other 3rd part decals for “41” and a few resin or other 3rd part resin parts for the air wing from someone like SNAFU or Dutch Naval Miniatures at Shapeways 3D parts and the 3rd party metal railing and instrumentariom package.

 

No, that would not work. The Midway class was entirely different. The most immediate difference was the adoption of an armored flight deck. This totally changed the center of gravity of the ship, causing it to need to sit lower in the water.

The Trumperter Essex might be a useful starting point for a pre-1954 Bennington, however. Bennington was the 9th out of 10.

 

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Posted by Jeff Head on Monday, January 18, 2021 6:54 PM

warshipguy

I would love to see a 1/350 USS Midway with the original axial deck and with their final angle decks.  I would also like to see any of the Forrestal class in their original configurations.

Bill

 

USS Midway CV-41aircraft carrier model 1/350 scale Can be made from Trumpter’s 1/350 model of CV-9, the Essex, CV-9, which was made with the 1st and 2nd modernizations. You just need other 3rd part decals for “41” and a few resin or other 3rd part resin parts for the air wing from someone like SNAFU or Dutch Naval Miniatures at Shapeways 3D parts and the 3rd party metal railing and instrumentariom package.

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, January 18, 2021 2:47 PM

warshipguy

I would love to see a 1/350 USS Midway class carrier with the original axial deck and with their final angle decks.  I would also like to see any of the Forrestal class in their original configurations.

Bill

 

I would too.

I would really like to see a Wickes, ala USS Ward. 

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Posted by warshipguy on Monday, January 18, 2021 2:40 PM

I would love to see a 1/350 USS Midway class carrier with the original axial deck and with their final angle decks.  I would also like to see any of the Forrestal class in their original configurations.

Bill

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, January 18, 2021 2:16 PM

Do you know when your father served on Bennington? The ship has a both interesting and somewhat tragic history.

Pre-1954 the Trumpeter Essex would be a good start. Post 1955 a new kit would be the answer.

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Posted by Thuntboss on Monday, January 18, 2021 1:32 PM

I would really dig a Austin Class LPD {USS Juneau, LPD-10} as I served 4 years onboard and as far as a Essex Class is concerned, give me USS Bennington, CV-20 {CVA-20, CVS-20} as it was my Dad's ship back in the 50's.

On a side note, if we're talking non-military vessels, a 1/350 or bigger of the S.S. Edmund Fitzgerald would do nicely.

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Posted by HooYah Deep Sea on Friday, January 15, 2021 8:09 PM

I believe that sombody may have already mentioned them, but I would definately buy the ships of an Amphibious Squadron (Phibron), circa late 1970's. Anchorage Class LSD's, Raleigh & Austin Class LPD's, Newport Class LST's, and Iwo Jima Class LPH's. Yes, those would be awesome.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, January 15, 2021 2:17 PM

Tojo72
Would you have enough years left to finish them,not the way you are doing the Akagi 

Naa, probably not.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, January 15, 2021 2:16 PM

GMorrison

Which is why 1/700 has the Hiryu and the Soryu. I looked around for any articles about a kitbash in 1/350. The general comment is that there were never two "sister" ships which were more different.

So yes a kit would certainly be most welcome.

 

Bill

 

They were originally suposed to be sisters but the Hyru had the island on the port as well as several other major changes.

Steve

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, January 15, 2021 2:12 PM

stikpusher
Lets see now, six 1/350 carrier kits at about $250 to $300 each, give or take... for a subtotal of around $1500 to $2000, plus aftermarket items... hooo boy! Then the space to display those builds... 

Aaand your point? Wink

Steve

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Posted by Tojo72 on Friday, January 15, 2021 1:57 PM

modelcrazy

I wish someone would come out with a 1/350 Soryu. That would complete the entire Pearl Harbor Kido Butai of CarDiv 1, CarDiv 2 and CarDiv 5

 

Would you have enough years left to finish them,not the way you are doing the Akagi Wink

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, January 15, 2021 12:04 PM

Which is why 1/700 has the Hiryu and the Soryu. I looked around for any articles about a kitbash in 1/350. The general comment is that there were never two "sister" ships which were more different.

So yes a kit would certainly be most welcome.

 

Bill

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, January 15, 2021 11:56 AM

modelcrazy

I wish someone would come out with a 1/350 Soryu. That would complete the entire Pearl Harbor Kido Butai of CarDiv 1, CarDiv 2 and CarDiv 5

 

Lets see now, six 1/350 carrier kits at about $250 to $300 each, give or take... for a subtotal of around $1500 to $2000, plus aftermarket items... hooo boy! Then the space to display those builds... 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, January 15, 2021 10:18 AM

I wish someone would come out with a 1/350 Soryu. That would complete the entire Pearl Harbor Kido Butai of CarDiv 1, CarDiv 2 and CarDiv 5

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by Jeff Head on Friday, January 15, 2021 1:15 AM

warshipguy

I would love to see kits released of CG's, CGN's, DDG's, FF's and FFG's of the Cold War in 1/350 scale.  I understand that ISW produces some of these for the USN, and both L'Arsenal and WEM has the USS Benjamin Stoddert.  But, there are no injection-molded model ship kits of these ships. Nor does the resin world have them of Soviet ships.  Manufacturers should start to fill this void.

Bill

 

Agreed. A new, decently priced wooden ship company, QualityModelShip, has come out with DDH184 I bought and then my own 1/350.  Air Wing from Dutch miniaturized models Of F35B's. All (sip and extras) for about $400.00   Check my YouTube channel.

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Posted by Nino on Thursday, August 22, 2019 1:25 PM

Jeff Head

I'd love to see some 1.350 scale LEwis and Clark and other USNS supply ship classes.  They keep the rest of the Navy supplied and able to cotniue eating and sailing...their importance cannot be understated.

I thought it was a shame when they moved them all under USNS designation, took most of the US Navy personnel off and all of the defenisve weapons.

A real shame...and, IMHO, shortsighted too.  Now an enemy only has to find those unarmed ships, which suually only have one LCS or one DDG as an esort and sink them, and they end up getting a mission kill of the task force they were supposed to resupply.

We used to arm those ships about the same way we defensivly armed the carriers, the LHDs and such.

Anyhow, I would still love to see those class vessels in 1/350 scale.

 
 
     I agree completely.  Some modern non-warship types in plastic would add a lot to anyone's display/collection.  I am open to any scale or era. There are now a slew of WW2 IJN oilers, troop ships, Sub tenders, and freighters in 1/700 by some Japanese makers.   In WW2 USN all we seem to have are the old Revell Montrose/Randal, Burleigh/Hawaiian Pilot, Pine Island/Currituck, Mission Capistrano, and  a Heller Le Seine all in 1/400ish. There is the Trumpeter Jeremiah O'Brien/ John Brown, but again, all WW2.
 

For modern Combat Logistics types  Trumpeter has their  AOE, LPD, and LCC kits. Dragon some LCS's.  Even the JMSDF has a replenishment oiler made by Aoshima.

  But no plastic USN AE, AF, AO's or other class like the new USS Lewis and Clark T-AKE-1 cargo ship. 

 
 
Tounge-in-cheek comment:
 
     Maybe some of the abundant models of the Titanic can be converted to a bulk carrier. Pretend the 1/350 is only 1/400  and 1000 ft long, sand down the hull plating, eliminate the upper decks, add a stern superstructure from the left-over parts and violia!, a bulk-package-carrying iceberg tester.
 
 
Except for a few of Trumpeter kits in 1/350 and duplicated in 1/700, like the
USS BLUE RIDGE LCC-19  , there is little to write home about or visit an LHS for.
 
 

warshipguy

I would love to see kits released of CG's, CGN's, DDG's, FF's and FFG's of the Cold War in 1/350 scale.  I understand that ISW produces some of these for the USN, and both L'Arsenal and WEM has the USS Benjamin Stoddert.  But, there are no injection-molded model ship kits of these ships. Nor does the resin world have them of Soviet ships.  Manufacturers should start to fill this void.

Bill

 

    I like plastic over Resin.  Nice plastic kits of the missing warship classes from the Cold War would be great for us older modelers who remember it.  Heck, we are the modelers the big Companies are catering to based on the prices they now charge.
 
(Note: A ray of sunlight... There is a nice 1/350 Udaloy II kit by Trumpeter. It has the later upgrades.)
 
Nino
 
P.S. Hey Jeff, as regards  "took most of the US Navy personnel off and all of the defenisve weapons..."   For defense just put a Laser on those AKE, AE, AF, and AO's.  No CIWS or Searam needed and only need a small contingent of "Gamers" to operate it. (Okay, and maybe a few 'pellet" guns for small boats and swimmers.)
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Posted by warshipguy on Thursday, August 22, 2019 10:34 AM

I would love to see kits released of CG's, CGN's, DDG's, FF's and FFG's of the Cold War in 1/350 scale.  I understand that ISW produces some of these for the USN, and both L'Arsenal and WEM has the USS Benjamin Stoddert.  But, there are no injection-molded model ship kits of these ships. Nor does the resin world have them of Soviet ships.  Manufacturers should start to fill this void.

Bill

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Posted by EdGrune on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 10:11 AM

PFJN
 
stikpusher

Well, Revell did make a model of the Calypso... and modified their 1/72 PBY to the unarmed Cousteau version as well. But those were different times.  

Hi,

I never built the Calypso model, but I do have a 1/200 Le Suroit, a 1/300 RV Meteor, and a couple 1/125 Lindberg Minesweepers in my stash.  I've long hoped to try and build one minesweeper pretty much out of the box as a minesweeper while converting the other to some form of research ship, or newer type mine counter measures ship Stick out tongue

Pat 

An entry at the IPMS Nats this month,  the builder took the Calypso and back converted it to a wooden hull WWII minesweeper.  Another winner from years back brought his detailed Calypso and placed it next to the minesweeper for contrast. 

The minesweeper builder did the opposite of what Jacques Cousteau did.  Cousteau took a minesweeper and converted it to the Calypso.    He took the Calypso and converted it to a minesweeper. 

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Posted by Jeff Head on Monday, August 19, 2019 11:54 PM

I'd love to see some 1.350 scale LEwis and Clark and other USNS supply ship classes.  They keep the rest of the Navy supplied and able to cotniue eating and sailing...their importance cannot be understated.

I thought it was a shame when they moved them all under USNS designation, took most of the US Navy personnel off and all of the defenisve weapons.

A real shame...and, IMHO, shortsighted too.  Now an enemy only has to find those unarmed ships, which suually only have one LCS or one DDG as an esort and sink them, and they end up getting a mission kill of the task force they were supposed to resupply.

We used to arm those ships about the same way we defensivly armed the carriers, the LHDs and such.

Anyhow, I would still love to see those class vessels in 1/350 scale.

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Posted by PFJN on Sunday, April 28, 2019 6:50 PM

stikpusher

Well, Revell did make a model of the Calypso... and modified their 1/72 PBY to the unarmed Cousteau version as well. But those were different times.  

 

Hi,

I never built the Calypso model, but I do have a 1/200 Le Suroit, a 1/300 RV Meteor, and a couple 1/125 Lindberg Minesweepers in my stash.  I've long hoped to try and build one minesweeper pretty much out of the box as a minesweeper while converting the other to some form of research ship, or newer type mine counter measures ship Stick out tongue

Pat

 

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Posted by rcboater on Sunday, April 28, 2019 5:34 PM

Two weekends ago, I was at the Woods Hole Model Boat Show. The Neil Armstrong was there at the pier. On Sunday afternoon, we got to watch them get underway and head out for parts unknown....

She‘s about 240’ long, 3,000 tons.  As a former ship driver, I was impressed (and a little bit jealous) of how easily she got underway, backing out into the basin and turning around all on her own.  (Powerful bow thrusters.) 

We were kidding the show’s organizer, telling her how impressed we were that she had the  power to get the ship underway just for our entertainment...!

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, April 28, 2019 4:23 PM

Nino

 

 
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Pat ;

 Thank You for asking for what I did .I don't believe we have even begun to give credit to the Merchant Mariners that made our victories posssible , Nor enough credit to all parts of the " Gator " Navy . T.B.     

P.S ; I especially really like these photos,  especially the Minesweeper and the last one     (the Blue one )

 

 

 

 

That last one "Blue one" had me Interested.

Details:

"RV Neil Armstrong (AGOR-27) is the designation for a new oceanographic research ship, first of the Neil Armstrong-class research vessels, to be owned by the United States Navy and operated by Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution."

 

They will never make a model of it.... No guns and it has not hit an iceberg.

   Jim.

 

Well, Revell did make a model of the Calypso... and modified their 1/72 PBY to the unarmed Cousteau version as well. But those were different times. 

 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Nino on Sunday, April 28, 2019 2:54 PM

Tanker - Builder

Pat ;

 Thank You for asking for what I did .I don't believe we have even begun to give credit to the Merchant Mariners that made our victories posssible , Nor enough credit to all parts of the " Gator " Navy . T.B.     

P.S ; I especially really like these photos,  especially the Minesweeper and the last one     (the Blue one )

 

 

That last one "Blue one" had me Interested.

Details:

"RV Neil Armstrong (AGOR-27) is the designation for a new oceanographic research ship, first of the Neil Armstrong-class research vessels, to be owned by the United States Navy and operated by Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution."

 

They will never make a model of it.... No guns and it has not hit an iceberg.

   Jim.

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Saturday, April 27, 2019 2:10 PM

Pat ;

 Thank You for asking for what I did .I don't believe we have even begun to give credit to the Merchant Mariners that made our victories posssible , Nor enough credit to all parts of the " Gator " Navy . T.B.      P.S ; I especially really like these photos , especially the Minesweeper and the last one ( the Blue one )

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Posted by PFJN on Saturday, April 27, 2019 12:22 PM

Hi,

I wouldn't mind seeing some merchant ships, research ships, auxiliaries, and mine counter measures ships/sloops/corvettes, in plastic.

I n particular it might be nice to see a WWII era Bathurst class, HMS Amethyst, and a modern Tripartite, Hunt Class, or similar, as well as even maybe something along the lines of a modern T-AGOR, as an injection molded plastic kit.

Bathurst

Amethyst

Tripartite

AGOR

Pat

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