The Omni debarcle continues

1337,

I am getting it from Badger.

Mike

Mike, where are you getting the 100LG?

i know tweety. and thats just my airbrush, yours may be different. if you dont feel comfortable doing it, i'd maybe check into sending the brush back for a replacement brush. if it does the same thing again, i'd look into the iwata hp-cs. it just plain sucks being without an airbrush while your trying to model. later.

OK salty, I'll give the 'void warranty' head tightening a go, and see what happens.

Doesn't make sense though, having to tighten it that much to get it too operate correctly.

Wait and see I guess.

my deepest apologies scooter. good advice. later.

QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog mike, i dont think i'll be sending the omni on a cross country tour this time.

No problem brother. I have a Badger 100LG, a Sotar 20/20 and a Badger Million-Air compressor coming to try out also, so I will have plenty to do.

QUOTE: thanks for accepting the challenge though my friend and tell ken i'm much obliged at his quick and on the money response. it seems that the tightening of the head assembly was the answer.

Actually it was my friend Scooter who suggested the head tightening.

Mike

just got back from the workbench tweety and mike. i started at hand tight with the head assembly and snugged it gently and alternated psi at each tightening phase and when i got about a half a turn from hand tight (which is not recommended in the owners manual BTW), the airbrush began to perform a little better. i finally tightened the sucker all the way down and i can get a decent fine line with the brush. its still not as fine as i can remember before all of this started, but that could be in the paint thinning department and lack of practice with this particular brush. now that i've used the iwatas for a while, there is a big difference in my iwata trigger and the omni's. i just love my iwatas and i just dont know how much use i'll get out of the omni anymore. i can pop out the iwata and achieve any line i want with it in seconds and i had to work a little to get the lines with the omni. anyway tweety, this seemed to help on my omni, so maybe you should crank the head assembly a little tighter a see what happens. the onwer's manual says not to over tighten, so you're gonna have to use your own judgement. later.

mike, i dont think i'll be sending the omni on a cross country tour this time. thanks for accepting the challenge though my friend and tell ken i'm much obliged at his quick and on the money response. it seems that the tightening of the head assembly was the answer. later.

the way its looking mike, probably so. i still havent had a chance to play with the tight or loose head. i might as well get over there and try it out. i'll email you in a while and tell you if i'm sending it my friend. later.

Chris,

Are you still going to send that Omni 5000 my way?

Mike

QUOTE: Chuck, thanks for the advice, but for some reason your post has rubbed me the wrong wayHave a read of the previous posts in this thread, everything has been tried, and all have failed. I guess I just got the brush made on a Friday.

i'm glad i wasnt the only one tweety1!! i mean....HELLO, we didnt just fall off the tater truck yesturday my friend!!! i can get the fine line with any of my other brushes except with the omni 5000. i'm in no way downing the airbrush, if it would work properly, i would be using it. i've tried new tips, needles, cleaning rigorously, holding my mouth right, sticking my tongue out while brushing and everything else but no dice. come up with something new bubba.....please. later.

QUOTE: Originally posted by Chuck_B Have you tried looking at the tip/nozzle under a magnifying glass?You will be amazed at how messed up or how dirty your airbrushes actually are.it is possible that when you put the needle in you lodged it too far into the tip causing it to spread.Try it it might suprise you.Cause if ya can't get a fine line with an omni I don't care what brush you use...you just arent going to get a fine line unless you just continue to practice.

Chuck, thanks for the advice, but for some reason your post has rubbed me the wrong way

Have a read of the previous posts in this thread, everything has been tried, and all have failed.
I guess I just got the brush made on a Friday.

QUOTE: Originally posted by Chuck_B LOL hi Mike....tis me ;)

You old snake in the grass.

Mike

LOL hi Mike....tis me ;)

Chuck_B,

I have an airbrush artist friend with the same name as you.
You wouldn't happen to be him would you?

Mike

Have you tried looking at the tip/nozzle under a magnifying glass?You will be amazed at how messed up or how dirty your airbrushes actually are.it is possible that when you put the needle in you lodged it too far into the tip causing it to spread.Try it it might suprise you.Cause if ya can't get a fine line with an omni I don't care what brush you use...you just arent going to get a fine line unless you just continue to practice.

Sean,

I contacted Ken at Badger and he told me to have you contact the Australian distributor for Badger airbrushes as that would be your best bet to get your problem solved.
Jonathon Zimbler of Zimbler ltd. is Badger's Australian Hobby Distributor.

He gave me these email addresses for you to try:
zimblerpl@bigpond.com
jonathan.zimbler@zimbler.com.au

I sure hope this helps my friend

Mike

Yeah salty, loosened it, tested, tightened it, tested, loosened then tightened, tested, and guess what.

No change.

As soon as I can catch the cat, , I'm gonna give the 'lucky rub' treatment a go.
After that, my bag of tricks is totally empty.


On a side note, has anyone ever heard of Lenco airbrushes??

your rules are funny tweety, i wish i could do that but when my phone rings its usually a client that i'm building a house for or wants one built so i gotta answer the phone in order to eat. i know what you mean about the play time with your son, i have a 3 year old daughter who frequents my office/hobby room and i've even got her broke in on airbrushing. the other day, she dug my omni 5000 out from under the table where i store things that i dont use much, and she said, "daddy, can i have this since you dont want it no more, its sure pretty." i let her pull the trigger and spray on some paper while i actually hold the airbrush. she loves it.

getting back to the subject, did you try the loosening and tightening of the air cap tweety? i havent had a chance to try it with my omni yet, but maybe today i can try it because all i have on the agenda is to cut the grass and haul off some junk the wife is wanting removed from the house.......oh, and i gotta assemble a toy box for my daughter. i was wondering if that would work or not. later.

What you say is true Salty, no arguement here.
But paint drying in the cup isn't an issue anymore, thanks to the Omni I add so much retarder it takes 15 minutes for the paint to dry on the model.

Cup size isn't an issue, seeing as the Iwata will be for detail work, and the Omni shall be reduced to base colours and priming.

Mind you, on the upside this is a great counter arguement for the Aztek bagging that goes on in this forum, don't ya think


Oh, and as for the phone ringing, I've made a steadfast rule in my house.

Once I get the chance to do some modelling, I only leave the room for toilet breaks, food, fire, or other equally life threatening issues.
I do not break this rule, and will not allow anyone else to break it for me.

Except for my son, we both enjoy our playtime together
Some things you just can't say no too

tweety, i hate you have to give up so soon, but i know how frustrating it is to deal with. my omni 5000 has a small cup and i never had problems with its size. again, if you think you're gonna go for the iwata, why not the hp-cs? it has a cap for the color cup like you 4000 and i personally like it better than the uncovered. sometimes the solvent will evaporate out of your paint on long spray sessions and change the consistancy of your paint a little which effects the line you trying to achieve. maybe thats not a bother for you, but it was for me a few times. plus, if you need to answer the phone or something in the middle of a session, the paint is less apt to dry with the cap on. later.

Well, that's what I thought my 4000 would do kik, but alas, it is not the way it turned out.
After alot of research, and reading all the posts here in respect to the Omni range, I purchased it, and haven't had a fun day since.

At the moment I'm looking at prices for Iwata stuff, namely the HP-BS.
Small cup I know, but all my Omni can do is broad patterns, so need one for finer detail.
I'm sure the Badger brushes are fine, but once bitten, twice shy.

That's a damn shame guys....sorry to hear that......my Omni 5000 works like a champ!!! (Knock on wood!!!)

iwata hp-cs. later.

QUOTE: Originally posted by MikeV Tweety1, Did Ken at Badger ever get back to you on this? Mike

No Mike, haven't heard anything yet.
Not surprised though, from your previous post where you said he was all over the country side on business trips.

He must have jet lag from hell, poor soul.

It's OK though, I'm not expecting any miracles.
If I lived in the same country this would be a hell of alot easier.

Just gotta save my money again and purchase another brush.

well, my omni "sprays" great if i'm doing broad coverage fellows, but the fine line is impossible at this time. later.

My Omni works great and has for a few years now and I have had no problems with it..
John

Tweety1,

Did Ken at Badger ever get back to you on this?

Mike

QUOTE: Originally posted by roosterfish Bump... Am I the only one with an Omni 4000 airbrush that works? Did anyone else get to test their Omni to see if the sputtering paint, dry tip, is still a problem?

roosterfish,

My Omni 4000 sprays great.

Mike

i havent had a chance to play with mine this week rooster. not likely that i'll have a chance tonight as i have to play basketball with my youth group at church tonight. those young bucks all but kill me every wenesday night. we play full contact basketball if you know what i mean. i'm have intentions to break it out tomorrow night and we'll see. later.

Bump...

Am I the only one with an Omni 4000 airbrush that works? Did anyone else get to test their Omni to see if the sputtering paint, dry tip, is still a problem?