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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Saturday, March 18, 2023 9:00 AM

Tcoat

[URL]https://cs.finescale.com/fsm/general_discussion/f/50/p/2213276/reply.aspx[URL]

 

OH COME ON

 

You forgot to put the / before the second URL.  

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Posted by JoeSMG on Saturday, March 18, 2023 9:10 AM

As someone who has been building Turds all their life, I find this thread highly offensive!

That a group of elite modelers would find it fun or enjoyable to slum it for a bit as defacto "turd builders" boarders on cultural appropriation and should not be tolerated!

Of course I'm kidding - although my fist sentence is more accurate than I'd like. If this becomes a group build effort I'll gladly join it as my first gateway GB.

- Joe the SMG

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Posted by armornut on Saturday, March 18, 2023 9:31 AM

  Thanks for the heart attack JoeSMG,  I was concerned that my thread might be taken that way.

    Thank you for understanding that it WAS NOT my intent. An "elite" modeler I am not I intended it to be more of a walk down memory lane when we were less worried about details, workmanship, and more about bombing coffee tables or charging across moms freshly vacuumed carpet.

      For the record I call all my builds " turds" some are really good....others.....not so much , but the fact is I'm proud, as should every builder, of those turds. That is one of the things that make this community great.....we get it.

     I am glad things are brought forth so I can try to explain the title. Now WHERE IS THE DEFIBRELATER??Angel

     For information it is not my intent to proctor a group build...I still haven't made good on my efforts to post pix....IF it develops into that then THANK YOU if not NO WORRIES. I want EVERYONE to simply think about the fun this hobby has to offer at all levels of skill, financial stability, access to info, etc. and not be ashamed of their best efforts.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Saturday, March 18, 2023 11:27 AM

Eaglecash867
wpwar11
 Funny thing happened when I started construction.  I just couldn't bring myself to put in a less than 100% effort.  I think the fun part for me is trying new techniques and testing my skills.  There has been a handful of times I finish a build and been really proud of the result.  If I don't try my best I rob myself from that joy.

 

THIS!  Ditto

Had exactly the same thing happen on the Revell 1/72 Space Shuttle I bought.  Everything I looked at on it made me immediately start brainstorming "How can I make this better?"

Yes, I get stuck in this rut called Advanced Modeler's Syndrome or AMS. In 2001, when I moved from Fort Dix, New Jersey to Fort Devens, Massachusetts, a friend I had met bought me a parts kit of the old Renwal M50 Ontos kit.

That kit was one the most coveted kit of my childhood. My friend's big brother had one hanging from his ceiling in his bedroom in a parachute style airborne drop. It was the coolest thing, I imagined the crew could shoot six enemy tanks from the sky before it every landed! A child's imagination is a true wonder.

I built the Revell reissue in 1982-83 as a kid in college. The kit was fairly crude and clunky with lots of movable parts. It spent about 20 years on my old bedroom dresser getting vacuumed every so often by my mom. Many detail pieces had been vacuumed up or broken off in the years.

When my mom was getting ready to sell the house and downsize, I rescued the kit along with my built, partially built and unbuilt kits of my youth.

I went to a local swap meet with this fellow soldier/modeler in Runnemede, New Jersey, saw the kit and was going to buy it. He wanted to buy it for me as a farewell gift.

It contained all the necessary parts to restore my kit and then some. But I got stuck trying to make the kit better. Replace all the old recoilless gun tubes with more accurate metal tubing, etc.

I never got past trying to make this kit into something it was never going to be. And then, when I was at Fort Knox, the Armor museum had restored one to a running status. That made it even worse; having access to a life sized actual vehicle.

About the time I had a lot of information on the kit, Academy released a new tooled version. Today, that old dog sits in a small cardboard box awaiting the day I decide to finish it semi-out-of-box.

Maybe that kit will be my "turd"? It's been cooking for over 20 years and the base kit has been in my possession for around 40 years.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Saturday, March 18, 2023 11:29 AM

Tcoat

I enjoy building older kits, but I truly appreciate the elite modelers. It is their skills and dedication to the hobby that required the model making companies to "up their game" and stop giving us subpar kits to work with. Their scratchbuilding skills become masters for resin and photo etched upgrades as well as photographic aids to assist in detailing our own kits.

And every time a new and improved kit is released, the older, highly regarded kit, hits the secondary market at a discount. Everyone is selling off their great kit because another company is putting out an even better one!

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, March 18, 2023 1:36 PM

Rob Gronovius

And every time a new and improved kit is released, the older, highly regarded kit, hits the secondary market at a discount. Everyone is selling off their great kit because another company is putting out an even better one! 

Yes indeed! That method has helped me fill a few gaps in the collection/stash...

 

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Posted by Real G on Saturday, March 18, 2023 1:48 PM

Okay, I am compelled to show my support for Armornut.  I will build a model from my childhood.  Starting today.  No aftermarket.  No mods.  OOTB.  I'm a man of my wuuuuuurrrrrrrrd.

Pics to follow.

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Posted by JoeSMG on Saturday, March 18, 2023 2:35 PM

Real G

Okay, I am compelled to show my support for Armornut.  I will build a model from my childhood.  Starting today.  No aftermarket.  No mods.  OOTB.  I'm a man of my wuuuuuurrrrrrrrd.

Pics to follow.

 

 
I'm in too - Pics soon to follow as well.
 

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Posted by JoeSMG on Saturday, March 18, 2023 3:44 PM

Pulled from stash.

To be even more nostalgic than necessary - I'm even stuck using a three year old opened tube of half cured Testers orange, just like when I was a kid!

Ooh Ooh that smell!

 

- Joe the SMG

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Posted by Real G on Saturday, March 18, 2023 3:46 PM

I don't like clickbait or stringing people along.  I also took a peek into the box (why was it so heavy?), and found a set of Takom aftermarket tracks.

So the kit will be Tamiya's Chieftain Mk V with some AM tracks.  Well, they WERE in the box, and the tracks would go to waste since I have no other Chieftains.  Embarrassed  At least there was no PE set.

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Posted by armornut on Saturday, March 18, 2023 4:00 PM

  Awesome guys...thanksBig Smile. If aftermarket was in the box now.......what say Uncle Bob didn't stick it in there when you were ten? 

    Joe that Tetsors is still good?? WOW that has some staying power LOL.

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Posted by JoeSMG on Saturday, March 18, 2023 4:07 PM

armornut

...

    Joe that Tetsors is still good?? WOW that has some staying power LOL.

 

 
 
It's not ideal, a little rubbery and probably not enough - but it does bring me back!

- Joe the SMG

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Posted by armornut on Saturday, March 18, 2023 5:08 PM

Ooohhhh yyyyeeeeaaaSmile

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Posted by cbaltrin on Saturday, March 18, 2023 5:43 PM

This has been an interesting thread. I have tried this before without much success. It's hard to build like a 14 year old when you have the brain of a 50 year old. Imagination and ignorance of many things at that age filled lots of gaps back then that can no longe be filled so easily...

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Posted by cbaltrin on Saturday, March 18, 2023 5:46 PM

stikpusher

 

 
Rob Gronovius

And every time a new and improved kit is released, the older, highly regarded kit, hits the secondary market at a discount. Everyone is selling off their great kit because another company is putting out an even better one! 

 

 

Yes indeed! That method has helped me fill a few gaps in the collection/stash...

 

Roger that

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Posted by JoeSMG on Saturday, March 18, 2023 6:31 PM

cbaltrin

...

It's hard to build like a 14 year old when you have the brain of a 50 year old. Imagination and ignorance of many things at that age filled lots of gaps back then that can no longe be filled so easily...

 

 
Yeah I've already done a couple things 14 year old me wouldn't have, not so much because I didn't think of it I just didn't have the means. Just gave the main body parts a spayed yellow foundation color. I've always been a brush painter but will use a rattler for a base color. Also I now have decent tools to snip parts from spruse and sand any stubs - were not savages!
Another big change is I now read the instructions before I start! Big Smile I also feel the need to paint a lot of stuff before assembly.

- Joe the SMG

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Posted by cbaltrin on Saturday, March 18, 2023 7:10 PM

cbaltrin

This has been an interesting thread. I have tried this before without much success. It's hard to build like a 14 year old when you have the brain of a 50 year old. Imagination and ignorance of many things at that age filled lots of gaps back then that can no longe be filled so easily...

 

I do build a model now and again where I finish and paint the wings and fuselage separately, then glue them together, if the fit is good enough... makes for a much more relaxing build at times.  And then you have the Monogram B-17G I am working on the Git-R-Done GB... I painted and decaled the fuselage halves before stuffing in the interior and joining them--that's something I did as a kid... I think that is about it though. Somtimes I can leave the fuelage seams alone but those wing edges just have to be sanded...

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Posted by Glamdring on Saturday, March 18, 2023 7:17 PM

When I was a kid, I would build strait from the box and forego any paint and sealer.  Times were so much simpler back then.  These days, these are called my shelf queens...

Robert 

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Posted by cbaltrin on Saturday, March 18, 2023 7:27 PM

Glamdring

When I was a kid, I would build strait from the box and forego any paint and sealer.  Times were so much simpler back then.  These days, these are called my shelf queens...

 

When I was a kid, my hobby tools were 1 xacto knife, 1 tube of glue, some testors nylong paint brushes and maybe 20 bottles or spray cans of testors and model master paint... Oh and a Paasche VL airbrush which I ran off my Dad's aircompressor,which did not even have a regulator, in the unheated Garage (In the winter, you had to poor hot water over the piston housing to warm up the oil in order to get it to start). 

Now I have six different xacto handles with various blades, about 300 bottles of pain, 4 air brushes [insert about 100 other tools here] and the list goes on Geeked , so yea, it's pretty hard to revert to childhood building techniques.....

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Posted by Glamdring on Saturday, March 18, 2023 8:42 PM

cbaltrin

 

 
Glamdring

When I was a kid, I would build strait from the box and forego any paint and sealer.  Times were so much simpler back then.  These days, these are called my shelf queens...

 

 

 

When I was a kid, my hobby tools were 1 xacto knife, 1 tube of glue, some testors nylong paint brushes and maybe 20 bottles or spray cans of testors and model master paint... Oh and a Paasche VL airbrush which I ran off my Dad's aircompressor,which did not even have a regulator, in the unheated Garage (In the winter, you had to poor hot water over the piston housing to warm up the oil in order to get it to start). 

Now I have six different xacto handles with various blades, about 300 bottles of pain, 4 air brushes [insert about 100 other tools here] and the list goes on Geeked , so yea, it's pretty hard to revert to childhood building techniques.....

 

Ain't that the truth!   Big Smile

Robert 

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Posted by JoeSMG on Sunday, March 19, 2023 11:57 AM

Only at the halfway point

Having all the issues i had as a kid on this, My sand paint was 95% dry - so just like in the day I'm adding thinner and getting the micro lumps... Oh well she'll be a fine looking turd at arms length! Embarrassed

- Joe the SMG

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Sunday, March 19, 2023 1:06 PM

cbaltrin

When I was a kid, my hobby tools were 1 xacto knife, 1 tube of glue, some testors nylong paint brushes and maybe 20 bottles or spray cans of testors and model master paint... Oh and a Paasche VL airbrush which I ran off my Dad's aircompressor,which did not even have a regulator, in the unheated Garage (In the winter, you had to poor hot water over the piston housing to warm up the oil in order to get it to start). 

Now I have six different xacto handles with various blades, about 300 bottles of pain, 4 air brushes [insert about 100 other tools here] and the list goes on Geeked , so yea, it's pretty hard to revert to childhood building techniques.....

 

I had an off brand X-acto knife with one blade in it that was dull as heck when I got it with a broken tip. Then I found a set that included a little plastic case with a handful of odd blades, probably around 1980. I still have that set with the original blades. Some of the blade types were never used.

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