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Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:51 PM

Wilson?  Who's Wilson?Confused [%-)]

I'm looking for an identical task the one completed and the other did not  It is unlikely that McGuire failed to cross the English Channel by air. 

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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:37 PM

Wilson is as I said the first pilot (and he was English) to cross the Irish Sea, in 1912. Certainly Tom McGuire of WW2 flew in the Pacific so he's not our boy, and there's not much he didn't do except score more victories than Bong, or survive the war. Except he never flew across the Irish Sea either, but probably never tried, so that is not the definition of "unsuccessful".

Back to the search.

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Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:59 AM
I was just kidding about Wilson, Bill.  Don't let it lead you astray.  We still need an answer.  What did one do that the other failed to do.

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Posted by trexx on Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:27 PM
 bondoman wrote:

OK I'll revise my last answer first. It was that hairy dude who looks like Trexx, at the beginning of "2001, A Space..." who throws the bone up in the air and it becomes a spaceship.

Denys Corbett Wilson became the first aviator to fly between Great Britain and Ireland, on April 22, 1912.

Truly a family resemblance! Smile [:)]

A:

...imagining the sun-baked femur careening higher than 10,000 feet. I think that is what the Englishmen did. Flew and airplane above 10,000 feet.

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Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, August 21, 2008 3:15 PM
Guys, we are dying here and it ain't no spiral!!

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Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, August 21, 2008 3:16 PM
Big Smile [:D]Guys, we are dying here and it ain't no spiral!!

John

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Posted by bondoman on Thursday, August 21, 2008 3:46 PM
Recovered from a flat spin!
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Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, August 21, 2008 6:38 PM
Well, we are getting warmer, but in 1912 it is quite certain that no one knew what a flat spin might be, and the first successful recovery was waaaay in the future for that variety.

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Posted by trexx on Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:05 PM
Barrel roll?
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Posted by mojodoctor on Thursday, August 21, 2008 10:36 PM

How 'bout survive a snap roll, then called a "Dippy Twisty Loop" in 1912?

McGuire's death came from his unintended low altitude snap roll while trying to escape an attacking Warrant Officer Akira Sugimoto flying a Ki-43 Hyabusa (Oscar).

 

Or maybe not!

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Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:02 PM
 mojodoctor wrote:

How 'bout survive a snap roll, then called a "Dippy Twisty Loop" in 1912?

McGuire's death came from his unintended low altitude snap roll while trying to escape an attacking Warrant Officer Akira Sugimoto flying a Ki-43 Hyabusa (Oscar).

 

Or maybe not!

You got it, Matt.  A spin is the same as a snap roll, just at a bit lower speed and in the vertical plane instead of horizontal.  Either is an autorotation caused by one wing being stalled and the other creating lift. 

You get to ask the next one. 

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Posted by bondoman on Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:07 PM

OKOK so it's only fair to ask- having stood in the rain at this bus stop for two nights- if a P-38 kills it's ace pilot in a snap roll, what the heck and who the heck pulled it off in 1912? Sell me shares in that company!

Where's Tex Johnson when you need him.

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Posted by mojodoctor on Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:29 PM

Are you kidding me?

What a guess! I just Googled Thomas McGuire and read about his death on Wikipoop, then Googled "first snap roll" and came up with this result.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=first+snap+roll+airplane+1912

 

After reading the first few headlines, I just made a wild *** guess. Don't yet know who the Brit was that survived a snap roll, but came up with Katherine Stinson who did this in 1915.

 

http://www.ninety-nines.org/thenandnow/aerobaticpilots.html

 

Maybe I should go buy a lottery ticket after that guess about the Martin Mariner, eh?

I'll think of something soon, hopefully before I fall asleep!

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Posted by mojodoctor on Friday, August 22, 2008 12:03 AM

How about this one?

 

What aviation fete was first performed the day after the Titanic sank?

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Posted by bondoman on Friday, August 22, 2008 12:09 AM
Harriet Quimby became the first woman to fly the English Channel.
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Posted by mojodoctor on Friday, August 22, 2008 12:19 AM

Geez Louise, I haven't even finished my ice cream yet!

 

Unfortunately, she only lived another two and a half months before losing her life while flying in the Third Annual Boston Aviation Meet at Squantum, Massachusetts. William Willard, the event's organizer, was a passenger in her brand-new two-seat Bleriot monoplane. The plane unexpectedly pitched forward for reasons that are still unknown. Both Willard and Quimby were ejected and fell to their deaths, while the plane "glided down and lodged itself in the mud."

 

Your turn Bondodude!

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Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, August 22, 2008 11:17 AM

Bill, the Englishman's name was Wilfred Parke, and for a time the spin was known as Parke's dive.  Here is an article in Wiki on the spin:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spin_(flight) 

John

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Posted by bondoman on Monday, August 25, 2008 11:20 AM

Wuddat?

I was able to find a nice big picture. There are lots of clues in this photo, so look sharp!

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Posted by congo79 on Monday, August 25, 2008 12:02 PM
F-5/T-38 familly?
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Posted by bondoman on Monday, August 25, 2008 12:12 PM
No-bigger
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Posted by 44Mac on Monday, August 25, 2008 12:46 PM

A dead Eagle, F15.

                        Regards, Mac

Strike the tents...

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Posted by Screaminhelo on Monday, August 25, 2008 2:06 PM

Me thinks maybe an F-4.

 

Mac

I Didn't do it!!!

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Posted by bondoman on Monday, August 25, 2008 2:28 PM
No and no. The Joshua Tree means that it is probably an a/c with a particular prefixx.
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Posted by trexx on Monday, August 25, 2008 6:00 PM
T-2 Buckeye?
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Posted by Milairjunkie on Monday, August 25, 2008 7:09 PM

I must have spent the last 3 hours trying & failing to figure this one (sad isn't it)!

The Trailing front gear suggests a Naval bird (As F-8) or early Mirage, the lack of intake seperation/splitter's suggests sub-sonic, the width of the forward section compared to the rear suggest something like a Harrier in "little man, big engine/s mode" (as does the front gear, but not the intake trunking), it looks like its low wing & may have twin lower air-brakes.

 I thought P80 / T-33, then thought T2V Sea Star due to the landing gear? I doubt this is correct, but it's as good as I can do.

Nice one by the way.

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Monday, August 25, 2008 7:23 PM

While scouring the net to try & match the landing gear shown in Bondoman's latest challenge, I came across this minuture B-58 Biz jet form the 1950s - cool as. I also see some is attempting to restore it - http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Galaxy/4707/mc_119.htm

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Posted by simpilot34 on Monday, August 25, 2008 7:38 PM

Would it be the remains of the Lockheed XF-90??? Here is a shot of the underwing from a model review I had found and the pieces of the puzzle fit.

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by mojodoctor on Monday, August 25, 2008 7:46 PM

I was thinking along the lines of P-80 also for the same reasons, but ruled that out. Look at the hammer lying next to the fuse. It's size would suggest this a/c is small and probably single engined. The cross section is quite flat on the bottom, but I'm not sure the nose gear folds rearward. There may be damage in that area that is confusing me.

It doesn't take much to confuse me!

 

Also, I don't see any wing spar, so how far aft of this section is the main wing?

Hmmm?

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Posted by mojodoctor on Monday, August 25, 2008 8:01 PM

XF-90, hmmm? Now there's a thought.

 

Here is the one in the National Museum and the intake with those three gun ports could fit. Hmmm?

 

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Posted by Brews on Monday, August 25, 2008 9:28 PM
I'll plump for an F-100, purely on the fuselage cross-section. I don't know what the structure looked like forward of the cockpit ... but obviously, if it IS an F-100, then it's missing a bit of structure around the inlet!
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