Aircraft Trivia Quiz

mojodoctor wrote:

The radiator is in that space between the wing and the fuse. Interesting, but one that I thought went along with the ugly theme that was developing!

Ugly? That's not an ugly airplane, just look at the smooth bullet like fuselage! What's with you guys! Bashing on all those lovely Blackbrun aircraft!

 OK, here's the question:

Two Dutch aircraft designers both claimed they designed the first commercial aircraft with enclosed seating for the pasangers.

Which designers and what aircraft?

A:

Frederick Koolhoven.  F.K.26

Reinhold Platz. F 11

trexx wrote:

A:   Frederick Koolhoven.  F.K.26   Reinhold Platz. F 11

Those are (almost) the anwsers I was looking for:

Frits Koolhoven with the BAT FK.26=correct

And the Fokker F-II (it's a two, not an eleven)

About the designer: Reinhold Platz was a german, not dutch and Fokker generally took the credit for Platz's design work. So I was looking for the name Fokker. But you are correct, Platz was the true designer of the F-II.

Trexx, it is your turn!

RemcoGrob wrote:

trexx wrote: A:   Frederick Koolhoven.  F.K.26   Reinhold Platz. F 11 Those are (almost) the anwsers I was looking for: Frits Koolhoven with the BAT FK.26=correct And the Fokker F-II (it's a two, not an eleven) About the designer: Reinhold Platz was a german, not dutch and Fokker generally took the credit for Platz's design work. So I was looking for the name Fokker. But you are correct, Platz was the true designer of the F-II. Trexx, it is your turn!

Excellent question, and thanks for accepting the second answer. Uh-OH. Now to come up with something. It's dang difficult with all you airplane-brainiacs ready to pounce.

OK...

I'll revert to the "whaddat" format.

Ready? ....whaddat? :

How about the Focke Wulf FW 58 Weihe transport and trainer aircraft.

 Mike T.

telsono wrote:

How about the Focke Wulf FW 58 Weihe transport and trainer aircraft.  Mike T.

Good try, but no.

One more pic:

This airplane is quite obscure. 

telsono you have swerved into the "warm" though.

Here my train of thought:

Looking at the turret it must be an italian plane (it has that strange "barrels sticking out from both sides design")

The layout suggest it's a light bomber.

So an italian, light bomber: probably a Caprioni, from the 300 series, but which one?  (as a small historical note: the Caprioni 300 series where a very succesful bombers series with many sales abroad, like peru and sweden)

It looks like a late version (big engines and better aerodynamics then the other 300 bombers)

So I am going to say it's the Caprioni Ca-331 Raffica.

From the second picture I would agree with Remco about the Italian origin and the Caproni Ca 300 series would seem most logical. Besides the turret, the camoflage pattern resembles Italian three color patterns. But I'll go with the Swedish order and call it a B-16 based upon the Ca 313 with further modifications placed upon it by its new owners.

Mike T.

Edit:

I was wrong! Remco has it, look at this model build by Chris Busbridge of the Ca 331

http://modelingmadness.com/reviews/axis/ity/bus331.htm

RemcoGrob wrote:

Here my train of thought: Looking at the turret it must be an italian plane (it has that strange "barrels sticking out from both sides design") The layout suggest it's a light bomber. So an italian, light bomber: probably a Caprioni, from the 300 series, but which one?  (as a small historical note: the Caprioni 300 series where a very succesful bombers series with many sales abroad, like peru and sweden) It looks like a late version (big engines and better aerodynamics then the other 300 bombers) So I am going to say it's the Caprioni Ca-331 Raffica.

Well done. CORRECT!

The Italians KNEW Art-Decco and certainly brought it to a new level with this aerodynamic masterpiece! (imo)

The dorsal turret had a funny counterbalance thingy poking in the opposite direction of the gun muzzle.

trexx wrote:

The dorsal turret had a funny counterbalance thingy poking in the opposite direction of the gun muzzle.

Wind vane - non-powered turret?

trexx wrote:

RemcoGrob wrote: Here my train of thought: Looking at the turret it must be an italian plane (it has that strange "barrels sticking out from both sides design") The layout suggest it's a light bomber. So an italian, light bomber: probably a Caprioni, from the 300 series, but which one?  (as a small historical note: the Caprioni 300 series where a very succesful bombers series with many sales abroad, like peru and sweden) It looks like a late version (big engines and better aerodynamics then the other 300 bombers) So I am going to say it's the Caprioni Ca-331 Raffica. Well done. CORRECT! The Italians KNEW Art-Decco and certainly brought it to a new level with this aerodynamic masterpiece! (imo) The dorsal turret had a funny counterbalance thingy poking in the opposite direction of the gun muzzle.

OK naext question:

It has often been said Fokker was to late in making the switch to all metal aircraft.

However, Fokker did make one all metal aircraft before 1930. Because of the lack of know-how about metal construction they had the help of antoher aircraft manufacturer.

The question:

Which aircraft and which company assisted Fokker?

ok, there has been little respons, so I will give some more information.

It was a project of Fokkers american division in collaboration with an american aircraft manufacturer.

Lucien Harpress wrote:

I'm going to guess the Fokker F.VII/3m Trimotor, built by one of its American subsidiaries the Atlantic Aircraft Corporation, the collaborator being Ford.

No, sorry, the F.VII/3m had a (then) traditional steel tube frame fuselage with linnen and wooden wings. I am looking for a metal aircraft.

As a historical note: Ford did not work together with Fokker. But Ford did "borrow" some design features from the F.VII/3m in the Ford Trimotor because of the succes the Fokker had in the Ford reliabilty tour.

Well, this is an odd one.  I was thinking it might be the FLB for the US Coast Guard which had a metal fuselage but still had wood wings, but it is probably this one off, the Fokker-Hall H.51.

http://library.thinkquest.org/C002752/fokker.cgi?page=db/h51

I think it was the Fokker F-27 along with Fairchild.  Introduced in 1955.

Tom

OOPs..sorry.  I missed the 1930 part of the question.  Strike out my last answer.

 Tom

How about the Fokker-Hall H.51 also known as the Fokker 11.  Built by Hall-Aluminum Aircraft Corp in 1928.

Tom S.

Dear jeaton01,

Here I've been working most of the afternoon trying to figure this one out only to notice that you already had the answer I got only you got it four hours earlier.  That'll teach me to read the whole post instead of only glancing at the first line.

I hope you'll consider my response a confirmation of your answer.

Tom S.

eaglecentral wrote:

Dear jeaton01, Here I've been working most of the afternoon trying to figure this one out only to notice that you already had the answer I got only you got it four hours earlier.  That'll teach me to read the whole post instead of only glancing at the first line. I hope you'll consider my response a confirmation of your answer. Tom S.

jeaton01 wrote:

(...) but it is probably this one off, the Fokker-Hall H.51. http://library.thinkquest.org/C002752/fokker.cgi?page=db/h51

That's the correct anwser! Jeaton01, the floor is yours...

jeaton01 wrote:

Tom, I wouldn't want all that work to go unrewarded, so with your concurrence I will cede the next question rights to you.

Ah, I did not interpeted this post correct, maybe because I am a non-native english speaker (cede= to part of a right, I had to look that one up in the dictionary)

So, in compliance with the wish of Jeaton01, Tom (eaglecentral) can ask the next question.

jeaton01, bondoman, and RemcoGrob 

I am honored and humbled by your generosity and thank you very much for the privilege you have awarded me.  I hope this question isn't too easy.

Question:  The P-38 Lightning, one of my all time favorites, had a highly polished aluminum oval on the inboard side of each engine nacelle.  What was the purpose of this oval?

Tom S.

and for bondoman, I don't think you'll ever see a kit of the Fokker H.51.  Only one was ever made and it didn't last very long.

The answer would be to check the position of the nosewheel to see if it had retracted.

Someone on another forum was related to a guy in the Lockheed plant who sat in the cockpit and told another guy where to polish (a mirror was moved around until the nosewheel could be seen).  Pretty cool, actually.

Lucien,

Yes. That is the correct answer, it was the nose gear up-down indicator.  The next question belongs to you.

Tom S.