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Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:28 PM
Nope, that was done by a Russian, Nesterov, and soon after by a Frenchman, Pegoud.

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Posted by trexx on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:18 PM

Loop the loop.

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Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:12 PM

Bill, I looked at the Langley possibility, but so far as I can tell though he did use a track there was no thrust from it, just a track, so I think the Wrights can the first to use the catapult.  If it's not a man carrying airplane the old Leonardo would be the guy as I suspect he used his arm as a catapult.  Or, some unknown before him.

OK.  What did Thomas McGuire not do successfully that an Englishman was able to do successfully for the first time in an airplane in 1912.  No women were involved, it wasn't that.

 

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Posted by trexx on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 5:48 PM

 jeaton01 wrote:
How bout Orv & Will?

Wish I could borrow your brain! I unsuccessfully tried to sneak an obvious one past. DANG!

Oroville and Wilbur is correct. Samual Langley would've been accepted, but the real, true answer has to do with the Wright Brothers, as Sam launched model aircraft with his until the full size "Aerodrome" was thrown into the Potomac river instead of launched into the air as intended.

In the question, "Airplane" implies a full sized, working aircraft. John Eaton was first to answer, besides.

NOW, It's you, who is now re-burdened with coming up with a question, John! You have my sympathies!

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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 5:07 PM
Samuel Langley
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Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 4:51 PM
How bout Orv & Will?

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Posted by trexx on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 4:35 PM

Who created the first catapult for the purpose of launching aircraft?

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Posted by trexx on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 3:47 PM
 mojodoctor wrote:

Yup!

You got it Trexx. I may not get to Reno this year, so if you go can you take lots of photos?

 

Whatcha got fer us?

Awww... Thought I wouldn't?! HA!

Roger Wilco on the Air Race photos!

 

OK... sorry for the delay. I've been in the midst of major-general deadline(s) at work.

Stand-by for question coming up real soon...

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Posted by mojodoctor on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:02 PM

Yup!

You got it Trexx. I may not get to Reno this year, so if you go can you take lots of photos?

 

Whatcha got fer us?

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Posted by trexx on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:48 PM

F8F Grumman Bearcat -Lyle Shelton (?)

"Rare Bear"

I was there, Reno 1989 and witnessed the glory! 528 mile per hour in level flight! That airplane can get with the program!

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Posted by mojodoctor on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:43 PM

Wow, I was right?

The funny thing is that I mentioned in the thread about the ICBM model that my father worked for Aerojet from 1960 to about 1993. How ironic!

 

Let's go for an easy one. What is the fastest piston powered, propellor driven airplane and who was the pilot?

 

Let's see how fast you guys can answer that one! Tongue [:P]

Matt Fly fast, fly low, turn left!
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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:02 AM
 trexx wrote:
 jeaton01 wrote:

...What was the first successful rescue flight that involved rocket power?  You must name the  rescue vehicle, extra points for getting the individual vehicle's name.

 

I'm a bit numb from racking my noggin! Hmmm. Maybe a merchant ship defended by a rocket catapulted Hawker Hurricane?

I just dunno...

Where there's a crew of reprobates o'er on the Naval Air Wing GB wantin' ta ha ye' on Friday nite for a tot. It ain't an honor, it's more like a stand up call, but we'da be honored to ha ye pukin wit  the rest. PM the lowly MAA sfmac and we'll set fer ye.
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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:31 AM

Here's Johnny come lately, what it took the better part of an hour to compose this post, and I'm not right anyways.

The Mariner G for George was lost in Antarctica in 1946 during Operation Highjump. Amply supplied, although three of the crew died in the accident, the rest were rescued by another Mariner and a concerted effort with launches, from the Pine Island. I do not know her call sign.

Here's a model I built about a year ago of the Pine Island, with a lot of PE, showing the recovery of a Mariner in Arctic waters. It's a good story, and hopefully the right one. Mariner operations were aided by the expense of bunker fuel onto the sea. JATO was the rule of the day for takeoffs.

I've a Mach 2 Mariner "in the stash", my heirs will chuckle over it at the funeral.

 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:23 AM

OK, Matt, you have the honors to everyone's cheers and relief.  Here is the story, from the March 1945 Martin house magazine, the Martin Star.  The rescue was on January 12, 1945.  There are many articles on the net on PBM's and also PBY's using JATO in late WW II, mostly for takeoffs in heavy seas, but it appears the PBM pioneered the use.  Aerojet in Southern California of course developed the JATO units, which were solid propellant rockets.

 

  

  

 

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Posted by mojodoctor on Monday, August 18, 2008 10:59 PM
A Martin PBM Mariner would fit the bill.
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Posted by jeaton01 on Monday, August 18, 2008 10:34 PM
Oh, nooo.  When this happened the Albatross was yet a gleem in Grumman's eyes.  Is there an instance of Albatri using any kind of a rocket?  I can't think of it.

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Posted by scorpr2 on Monday, August 18, 2008 10:24 PM
The Albatross!
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Posted by jeaton01 on Monday, August 18, 2008 10:20 PM
Think wet, and maybe sharks, but not necessarily. This was not a one time event, but I did want the first instance.  Perhaps that instance was too obscure, so we will accept the airplane without the circumstances of the first event.  A type of gull was involved.  You must provide evidence for your answer, "was its" are of no monetary or other value.  After this event the same rescue was often repeated with the same aircraft in squadron service.  It occurred after 12/31/1944.

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Posted by bondoman on Monday, August 18, 2008 10:17 PM

OK John we need a lifeline. Could you please answer one of the following:

year

Location

Your humble servant, LtCmr Bondo the p'rit

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Posted by mojodoctor on Monday, August 18, 2008 10:09 PM

I've been rackin' my brain too, but to no avail.

How about some German general being saved at the last moment from an invading force in a RATO assisted transport?

 

Or, as has been previously mentioned, a sea rescue using an amphibious aircraft?

 

I know this is not "Twenty Questions", but it's getting a bit frustrating.

I can't find anything!

Matt Fly fast, fly low, turn left!
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Posted by trexx on Monday, August 18, 2008 8:27 PM
 jeaton01 wrote:

...What was the first successful rescue flight that involved rocket power?  You must name the  rescue vehicle, extra points for getting the individual vehicle's name.

 

I'm a bit numb from racking my noggin! Hmmm. Maybe a merchant ship defended by a rocket catapulted Hawker Hurricane?

I just dunno...

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Posted by jeaton01 on Monday, August 18, 2008 6:59 PM
  • The rescue I look for predated the use of the B-17H or SB-17G, but I did enjoy reading your excerpt, a nice narrative.

http://home.att.net/~jbaugher2/b17_23.html 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Monday, August 18, 2008 6:47 PM

As a large plane rolled over the sea the bottom seemed to drop away and come hurtling down. Three parachutes blossomed and the ditch bomber crew could see a boot hanging beneath the canopies. A rocket fired from the barrel, dragging out a funnel end of rope only seconds before the stem plunged into the water just a few yards away. The boat seemed to vanish beneath its own splash but as this cleared they could see the infated canopies at each end.
As the crew paddled towards the boat, a rocket with yellow lines zoomed out from each side, one floated within reach. Once aboard the boat the survivors found special clothing in a compartment beneath the deck.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/stories/39/a2571239.shtml

I believe the boat would have been attached to the SB-17?

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by jeaton01 on Monday, August 18, 2008 2:35 PM
You are all around it but you have yet to mention the airplane.  It is not any kind of egress system.

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Monday, August 18, 2008 1:53 PM

I can only figure some early sort of "tractor ejection" system (Stanley Yankee style), a seaplane using Rato of the back of a boat to carry out a rescue, or a flying boat such as a PB2Y-5 using RATO during a SAR mission?

If it isn't anything do do with these, I'm done!

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Posted by jeaton01 on Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:08 PM
Aviation, during the same conflict period as the He-280.

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Sunday, August 17, 2008 9:00 PM
Are we talking space or aviation here?
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Posted by jeaton01 on Sunday, August 17, 2008 5:59 PM
Good try, but the He-280's ejection seat was powered by compressed air, not a rocket type device.  I do not have in mind seats activated by gunpowder charges either, as was used in other ejection seats until the late 50's.  By the common definition a rocket has a nozzle and I can't find a gunpowder charge seat that fits that definition.

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Sunday, August 17, 2008 3:29 PM

I recon this is completley of the mark, but;

13/01/1943, German Pilot (Schenke) ejects from a He280 Salamander during a ferry flight?

This was on a Heinkel 162 "'Schleudersitz Heinkel-Kartusche'" seat?

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Posted by jeaton01 on Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:28 AM
Noooooo, not the LC-130.  Or any C-130.

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