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Posted by hudskit on Monday, February 5, 2007 8:15 PM

I truly did not know- At the 05 airshow that was the story given at the time...The saddest part was the genuine bond between him and his wife as they worked the show- what tremendous consequences for such a slight accident.

This , while not as truly sad as Marion Carl's death, demonstrates how few of these heros are still with us today.

Truly bummed, Keith

This whole workin' for a living thing does get in the way of so many things....
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Posted by jinithith2 on Monday, February 5, 2007 5:46 PM

he got hospitallized in April 22, 2004 (1 day and 12 years after my b-day!) when he fractured his neck BY FALLING FROM A LADDER TO THE B-17 of which the markings were a copy from his Memphis Belle.

he died like May 15 that year due to the compilation of many injuries and pneumonia

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Posted by jeaton01 on Sunday, February 4, 2007 10:37 PM
 hudskit wrote:

A long life spent with his family- I believe he passed away in the last year or so of "age related illnesses".

I was lucky enough to see him every year until the last 2 at the yearly "WWII" weekend in Reading PA- very very nice guy- more than happy to chat with you about his war years.

Keith

That must have been great, having the chance to talk to such a man.  I have been lucky enough to meet a few in situations that allowed genuine conversations, but without a doubt Alex Vraciu is the most impressive and memorable of those.  As for the question at hand, the story of Morgan's death is more than just old age.  There is some irony to the story.

John

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Posted by hudskit on Sunday, February 4, 2007 7:37 PM

A long life spent with his family- I believe he passed away in the last year or so of "age related illnesses".

I was lucky enough to see him every year until the last 2 at the yearly "WWII" weekend in Reading PA- very very nice guy- more than happy to chat with you about his war years.

Keith

This whole workin' for a living thing does get in the way of so many things....
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Posted by jeaton01 on Sunday, February 4, 2007 4:28 PM
What was Robert Morgan's cause of death?

John

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Posted by Jaypack55 on Sunday, February 4, 2007 3:46 PM
That's the answer I was looking for. You get the next question.

-Josh

Current Builds: If I were to list everything I have in progress, it'd take way too long! Some notable inclusions:

Hasegawa 1:48 KI-84

Tamiya 1:48 P-51D (in Iwo Jima long-range escort markings)

4 (yes, four) Tamiya 1:48 F4U-1s (1x -1D, 1x -1A, and 2x -1s)

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Posted by jeaton01 on Sunday, February 4, 2007 11:02 AM
Robert K. Morgan, Memphis Belle and B-29 Dauntless Dottie.

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Posted by Jaypack55 on Sunday, February 4, 2007 12:23 AM

Well, Tibbets wasn't exactly the person I was looking for. (Note the part about his first aircraft being preserved, not his second). However, your answer does fit all the other criteria, so if no one else posts the correct answer within a day or two, I'll say "close enough", and let you have the next one.

-Josh

Current Builds: If I were to list everything I have in progress, it'd take way too long! Some notable inclusions:

Hasegawa 1:48 KI-84

Tamiya 1:48 P-51D (in Iwo Jima long-range escort markings)

4 (yes, four) Tamiya 1:48 F4U-1s (1x -1D, 1x -1A, and 2x -1s)

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Posted by bofuf on Saturday, February 3, 2007 4:53 PM

 davros wrote:
I would guess that MTO was Mediterranean Theatre (or Theater for AmericansBig Smile [:D]) of Operations and XO is Executive Officer; the guy in command.

Thank you  David. I wrote those down and I feel a tiny bit smarter!

Chris 

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Posted by wdolson2 on Saturday, February 3, 2007 4:16 PM

 davros wrote:
I would guess that MTO was Mediterranean Theatre (or Theater for AmericansBig Smile [:D]) of Operations and XO is Executive Officer; the guy in command.

Thanks for clarifying.  Though the Executive Officer is the 2nd in command.  The CO or Commanding Officer is in command.  Many XOs ended up in command, especially in fighter units where attrition among commanders was high.

Tibbets being pulled off combat with the 8th AF probably saved his life.  He was in early enough that his chances of surviving 25 missions was very small.  That article said he was flying B-26s in North Africa developing good bombing doctrine for them. 

I know the US experimented a lot with the B-26 when it first arrived in the theater.  At low altitude, the flak was too intense and at high altitude, they hd poor accuracy.  They found a sweet spot around 10-12,000 feet where accuracy as still good, and flak wasn't too bad.

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Posted by davros on Saturday, February 3, 2007 3:49 PM
I would guess that MTO was Mediterranean Theatre (or Theater for AmericansBig Smile [:D]) of Operations and XO is Executive Officer; the guy in command.
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Posted by bofuf on Saturday, February 3, 2007 3:40 PM
 wdolson2 wrote:

He was XO of the 97th BG.

What does XO mean?

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Posted by bofuf on Saturday, February 3, 2007 3:38 PM
 wdolson2 wrote:

Paul Tibbets flew B-17s in Europe and the MTO, apparently both in the 8th and 12th AF.

What does MTO mean?

Chris 

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Posted by wdolson2 on Friday, February 2, 2007 10:52 PM
 Jaypack55 wrote:

Yeah, you're right- the Heyford is cooler than the HP 42. OK, here's my question:

Who was the (very) well-known American WWII pilot who first flew a tour in Europe, then after a break, went to serve in the Pacific flying another aircraft type built by the same manufacturer as his previous aircraft. *Note* His first a/c is now preserved and in the process of being restored.

And, for a hundred brownie points, what were the names of both of his aircraft?

I admit up front to googling this.  Paul Tibbets flew B-17s in Europe and the MTO, apparently both in the 8th and 12th AF.  He was XO of the 97th BG.  Then became famous flying Enola Gay.

 The clue that let me to the productive search was  that he flew planes by the same manufacturer.  I initially thought of fighters, but there were none that fit the description, then the Boeing connection hit me.

The link I found: http://www.acepilots.com/usaaf_tibbets.html   It looks like some of the information on bomb tonnage was translated from pounds in to Kg then back to pounds at some point because it describes the first mission carrying 1100 and 600 pound bombs.  Someone must have converted 1000 lbs and 500 lbs into 500 Kg and 250 Kg, then back into English units and rounded them up.

 Good question.

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Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, February 2, 2007 9:31 PM

Well, where is everybody?  Are you all afraid if you get the answer you'll have to ask the next question?  Jaypack came up with a good'un!

As promised here are some Heyford pictures.

John

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Posted by Jaypack55 on Friday, February 2, 2007 4:17 PM

Yeah, you're right- the Heyford is cooler than the HP 42. OK, here's my question:

Who was the (very) well-known American WWII pilot who first flew a tour in Europe, then after a break, went to serve in the Pacific flying another aircraft type built by the same manufacturer as his previous aircraft. *Note* His first a/c is now preserved and in the process of being restored.

And, for a hundred brownie points, what were the names of both of his aircraft?

-Josh

Current Builds: If I were to list everything I have in progress, it'd take way too long! Some notable inclusions:

Hasegawa 1:48 KI-84

Tamiya 1:48 P-51D (in Iwo Jima long-range escort markings)

4 (yes, four) Tamiya 1:48 F4U-1s (1x -1D, 1x -1A, and 2x -1s)

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Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, February 2, 2007 12:29 AM
 Jaypack55 wrote:

Well, a quick google searchjust turned up the H.P. 45 and Heyford as well

I think you are close enough.  It is the Heyford.  I will post a picture of it tomorrow evening.

You get the honor of the next question, Jaypack.

John

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Posted by Jaypack55 on Thursday, February 1, 2007 11:25 PM

Well, a quick google searchjust turned up the H.P. 45 and Heyford as well

-Josh

Current Builds: If I were to list everything I have in progress, it'd take way too long! Some notable inclusions:

Hasegawa 1:48 KI-84

Tamiya 1:48 P-51D (in Iwo Jima long-range escort markings)

4 (yes, four) Tamiya 1:48 F4U-1s (1x -1D, 1x -1A, and 2x -1s)

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Posted by Jaypack55 on Thursday, February 1, 2007 11:19 PM

OH, DUH! it was the HP 42, not DH. I'm not sure if that's it, but that's my guess.

-Josh

Current Builds: If I were to list everything I have in progress, it'd take way too long! Some notable inclusions:

Hasegawa 1:48 KI-84

Tamiya 1:48 P-51D (in Iwo Jima long-range escort markings)

4 (yes, four) Tamiya 1:48 F4U-1s (1x -1D, 1x -1A, and 2x -1s)

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Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, February 1, 2007 8:37 PM

 Jaypack55 wrote:
Okay, is it the D.H. 42? (which isapretty cool/weird looking airplane, by the way.)

You are getting a little warm with this one, but I think you have a typo, as I am not aware of a DH 42.  Not quite there yet with the numerics either.  To my eye, this one is even cooler than the aircraft I think you mean.

John

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Posted by Jaypack55 on Thursday, February 1, 2007 7:12 PM
Okay, is it the D.H. 42? (which isapretty cool/weird looking airplane, by the way.)

-Josh

Current Builds: If I were to list everything I have in progress, it'd take way too long! Some notable inclusions:

Hasegawa 1:48 KI-84

Tamiya 1:48 P-51D (in Iwo Jima long-range escort markings)

4 (yes, four) Tamiya 1:48 F4U-1s (1x -1D, 1x -1A, and 2x -1s)

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Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, February 1, 2007 4:57 PM
Oh, no, the Tiger Moth was the airplane that WW II RAF pilots learned aerobatics in, and first flew in 1931 as the DH.60T, soon thereafter as the DH.82.  The airplane we are looking for is much larger.

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Posted by Jaypack55 on Thursday, February 1, 2007 3:59 PM
DH Tiger Moth?

-Josh

Current Builds: If I were to list everything I have in progress, it'd take way too long! Some notable inclusions:

Hasegawa 1:48 KI-84

Tamiya 1:48 P-51D (in Iwo Jima long-range escort markings)

4 (yes, four) Tamiya 1:48 F4U-1s (1x -1D, 1x -1A, and 2x -1s)

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Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, February 1, 2007 2:31 PM

The Audax first flew in December, 1931, and the Gladiator in September 1934. 

This airplane gained a certain amount of fame when it was looped at an air display, a maneuver not usually associated with an aircraft of its type.

John

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Posted by espins1 on Thursday, February 1, 2007 11:14 AM
 wdolson2 wrote:

I would guess Gloster Gladiator.

 Bill

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Posted by wdolson2 on Thursday, February 1, 2007 3:20 AM

I would guess Gloster Gladiator.

 Bill

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Posted by toomanyslurpees on Thursday, February 1, 2007 1:08 AM

I'm not having much come to mind that's as early as that. I don't think the swordfish's participation can be called minor (read Charles Lamb's "War in a Stringbag" I had no idea) I'm going to go with the Hawker Audax, best shot I can give it.

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Posted by Jaypack55 on Thursday, February 1, 2007 12:21 AM
I'll guess the Fairey Swordfish

-Josh

Current Builds: If I were to list everything I have in progress, it'd take way too long! Some notable inclusions:

Hasegawa 1:48 KI-84

Tamiya 1:48 P-51D (in Iwo Jima long-range escort markings)

4 (yes, four) Tamiya 1:48 F4U-1s (1x -1D, 1x -1A, and 2x -1s)

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Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 8:59 PM

Next question:

This British biplane, which first flew in 1930, served in front line units until 1939, and was used in minor roles into WW II.  It has been produced in model form as an injection molded plastic kit.

John

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Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 8:33 PM

Here is a picture of the infamous Bullet, from James Gilbert's "1975 book "The World's Worst Aircraft".

 

John

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