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Posted by Surface_Line on Friday, February 8, 2008 12:33 AM
I'm feeling a sinking tanker nearby, and another federal law weighing down on freedom of choice by business coming as a result, but I see no Cherokee class around...
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Posted by schoonerbumm on Saturday, February 9, 2008 9:14 AM
Grasshopper, you must look farther across the seas to find the Cherokee you seek.

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Posted by sumpter250 on Saturday, February 9, 2008 10:38 AM
Thought process: Right wing politics = Religion ...The biggest religious issue? Creation vs Evoultion. Cherokee Class = HMS Beagle = Darwin's ship. Darwin and Lincoln share February 12th birthday.

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Posted by schoonerbumm on Saturday, February 9, 2008 12:23 PM

Sumpter's up! Charles Darwin is the answer I had in mind.

I just consider myself lucky that there wasn't a Coast Guard vessel named Birch.

By the way, Darwin and Lincoln don't just share the same birth date, they were both born on the same day in 1809.

I'm looking forward to Sumpter's question.

Alan

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Posted by jtilley on Saturday, February 9, 2008 1:05 PM
Well, Schoonerbum, I think you deserve at least as loud an electronic Bronx cheer for that one as I got for my Maine foray.   I wonder how Darwin would feel about having his name associated with "right wing politics"?

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Posted by sumpter250 on Saturday, February 9, 2008 5:24 PM

  My question is simple, perhaps too simple, but we'll see.

   Can anyone box the compass?
 

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Posted by schoonerbumm on Saturday, February 9, 2008 8:44 PM

N NbE NNE NEbN NE NEbE ENE EbN E EbS ESE SEbE SE SEbS SSE SbE S

SbW SSW SWbS SW SWbW WSW WbS W WbN WNW NWbW NW NWbN NNW NbW N

NbW NNW NWbN NW NWbW WNW WbN W WbS WSW SWbW SW SWbS SSW SbW S

SbE SSE SEbS SE SEbE ESE EbS E EbN ENE NEbE NE NEbN NNE NbE N

 

...."around the world and back"

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Posted by sumpter250 on Saturday, February 9, 2008 11:28 PM

 

...."around the world and back"
You got it.

I was right, it was to simple. Your up schoonerbumm! Bring her up tight, trim sheets, and put a bone in her teeth!

By the way, your avatar, what vessel? 

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Posted by schoonerbumm on Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:45 AM
Lady Washington.  That was me on the tiller... about nine years ago.

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Posted by schoonerbumm on Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:52 AM

For the rest of the forum....

A novice helmsman was sometimes required to "box the compass" just before he took the wheel or tiller, meaning recite the 32 points of the compass, forwards and backwards.

Alan

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Posted by schoonerbumm on Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:13 PM

Another "around the world" question.

Who do the ships Victory, Constitution, Globe, the Clemson Class...  and the world's oldest profession have in common?

Alan

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Posted by sumpter250 on Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:39 PM

Lady Washington.  That was me on the tiller... about nine years ago.

 Sweet! I managed to get a Saturday afternoon at the helm of Stephen Taber, while on a week long cruise in September '69. That's one of those things I'll never forget.

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Posted by Duke Maddog on Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:06 PM
 schoonerbumm wrote:

For the rest of the forum....

A novice helmsman was sometimes required to "box the compass" just before he took the wheel or tiller, meaning recite the 32 points of the compass, forwards and backwards.

Excellent! I was wondering what that meant "box the compass" I am thoroughly enjoying this Thread! I'm learning so much! Thanks guys!

Man I'd love to man the tiller of a great ship one day! 

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Posted by Steve H. on Sunday, February 10, 2008 11:41 PM

Hi

Ah yes, , , Lady Washington, ,aka U.S.S. Enterprise ! Yes they used the Lady W. as the sailing ship Enterprise in one of the Star Trek movies, where one of the NCC-1701D officers walks the plank. The first of the N.G. crew movies.

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Posted by jtilley on Monday, February 11, 2008 2:38 AM

Schoonerbum's latest question is indeed thought-provoking.  But having spent a good deal of time on his last one, only to make a thorough fool of myself (I've been doing that on a fairly regular basis recently), I think I'd better stay away from this one.   I await the answer with great anticipation.

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Posted by schoonerbumm on Monday, February 11, 2008 10:31 AM

Yes, the Lady Washington has had several starring roles in movies and TV specials.

Her most famous one was as Captain Jack Sparrow's stolen HMS Interceptor, "fastest ship in the Royal Navy". I crewed on one of the legs on her transit to the Caribbean for filming in 2001.

Check out the POTC I special features for an interview with one of her Captains and footage of her voyage.  

Alan

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Posted by runkel on Monday, February 11, 2008 3:23 PM

They were used as survey ships.

 

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Posted by subfixer on Monday, February 11, 2008 4:33 PM
 runkel wrote:

They were used as survey ships.

 

Jim

 

 Prostitutes used as survey ships?? Please elaborate.

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Posted by schoonerbumm on Monday, February 11, 2008 6:57 PM

Hmm...  I thought this one would go quickly with all of the Constitution buffs in the forum.

hint #1: May 11th is celebrated annually, by American destroyermen, at a certain port, in honor of this man for his exploits there.

hint#2: Oliver Wendell Holmes got the credit, but this man probably had more to do with saving the Constitution.

Alan

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Posted by schoonerbumm on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 12:27 AM

hint #3: USS Cyane

hint #4: USS Dolphin

Alan

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Posted by RickF on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 4:23 PM

Nobody seems to want to come in on your clues, so I'll have a guess that the "Tampico Affair" is part of the answer? What the connection with Victory is I have no idea.

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Posted by schoonerbumm on Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:07 AM

RickF,

Thanks for the guess, but no, the Dolphin in question was from about 80 years before the Tampico affair.

Another hint: The oficer in question was also credited with winning the US Navy's first action in the Hawaiian Islands, hence the May 11 remembrance.

It appears that this question is going to earn me a barrage of cyber vegetables.

 

Alan

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Posted by sumpter250 on Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:49 PM
  I just can't seem to find the key link, but, I'll try adding this. Globe was a whaler. She is connected to USS Dolphin, in that Dolphin rescued two of Globes mutinous crewmen (names Lay, and Hussey...is that reaching too far?) from slavery on the Mile Atoll. Dolphin is connected to USS Constitution, in that they both patrolled the African coast to catch slavers. USS Cyanne, (HMS Cyanne) was captured by the Constitution. I am intensely embarassed, as a destroyerman, that I cannot make the connection with May 11th.

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Posted by sumpter250 on Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:56 PM

 Found the key, "Mad Jack" / "Roaring Jack" Purcival. He commanded USS Dolphin, USS Cyanne, USS Constitution, a Clemson Class flush deck destroyer, DD-298, was named for him, He was rumored to have commanded Nelson"s Victory in the Battle of Trafalger, He rescued two crewmen of the Whaler Globe, and confronted the Calvinist Missionaries in the port of Honolulu, over the "visitation by girls" to the vessels in port, viewed,and prohibited, by the calvinists, as prostitution.  He departed Honolulu on May 11th. He was also prominent in the refitting of USS Constitution.

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Posted by schoonerbumm on Thursday, February 14, 2008 4:20 PM

Sumpter does it again!

I won't go into Mad Jack's biography, other than to say that John Percival was reputed to have commanded Victory's fore top at Trafalgar, not the ship. For Constitution buffs, Percival was a driving force within the Navy to save "Old Ironsides" and as a result, was given command of her on her subsequent circumnavigation (which included America's first military involvement in Viet Nam!)

I suggest that forum readers google "john percival" or "mad jack percival" for some fun reading.

A novelist would have a hard time inventing a character like Mad Jack and making him believable. Imagine a scene where missionaries have convinced the Hawaiian royalty to  not allow "the trade" and the first US Navy vessel in the Hawaiian Islands arrives.  

"Mad Jack Percival demanded an audience with Prime Minister Kalanimoku and the Dowager Queen (and regent) Kaahumanu. In his message, Percival asserted that denying women to his crew was an insult to the American flag."  ( google "the battle of honolulu" to see what happened)

Both Herman Mellville and James Mitchner created characters in their novels based on Mad Jack.

Mad Jack Percival Day is celebrated at Pearl Harbor on the anniversary of Dolphin's departure from the Hawaiian Islands.

Percival is also commemorated in a folk song "The Balllad of Mad Jack" performed by "Schooner Fare" and a painting of Dolphin in Hawaii by marine artist Raymond Massey (http://www.shipstoregalleries.com/fineart/artists/massey/orig/dolphin_honolulu_o.html)

Sumpter, you're up again.

Alan

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Posted by sumpter250 on Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:55 PM
Well! I've the devil to pay and no pitch hot!......the devil is?????

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Posted by Surface_Line on Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:34 PM

that outermost seam between the deck and the hull. 

 

(I'd use tube glue, personally) 

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Posted by sumpter250 on Friday, February 15, 2008 7:52 AM
close, but not exactly. One good turn could deserve another though.

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Posted by runkel on Friday, February 15, 2008 8:35 AM

Devil seams to caulk and pay were those just at or below the waterline that could be worked only while heeled underway.

 

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Posted by sumpter250 on Friday, February 15, 2008 8:48 PM

Devil seams to caulk and pay were those just at or below the waterline that could be worked only while heeled underway.

   I'll give that one, Runkel has it! The exact wording would be , the devil is the longest seam, usually at the "turn" of the bilge,(just at or below the waterline) . It is also the "devil" refered to in "Between the devil and the deep blue sea". 

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