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Posted by schoonerbumm on Monday, June 16, 2008 10:00 PM

USS Santa Fe is the ship that I was looking for.

An excellent summary of events with photos can be found at:

http://usssantafe.net/Docs/iwo_jima_and_okinawa.htm

 

Subfixer, the floor is yours.  

 

Alan

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Posted by subfixer on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 5:11 AM

Thank you, Mr. bumm.

This should be an easy one:  What ever happened to old J-826?

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Posted by schoonerbumm on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:06 AM

This is getting creepy.... the third question that I have a "personal" connection to.

As for J-826:

Did you hear this one, An Irishman, a Frenchman and an odd looking person from Roswell, New Mexico walk into a bar...... 

Nineteen years before she sank, she was immortalized as H-575. 

J-826 got rammed and sank, the year before Henry Deutschendorf, Jr. ran out of gas, crashed and sank.

Now, 12 years later, she's in a French shipyard awaiting restoration...  again... maybe.  

I'll leave her for someone else to name.

Alan

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Posted by runkel on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:54 PM

HMS J-826

Francine Cousteau has managed to organise the ship's restoration.[1] On October 11, 2007, the transfer of the ship to Concarneau started, where she will be restored at the Piriou Shipyard and transformed into a permanent exhibit.

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Posted by subfixer on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 6:50 PM
 runkel wrote:

HMS J-826

Francine Cousteau has managed to organise the ship's restoration.[1] On October 11, 2007, the transfer of the ship to Concarneau started, where she will be restored at the Piriou Shipyard and transformed into a permanent exhibit.

But who is she?

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Posted by Surface_Line on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:24 PM

I do love these local connections!  I had never known that she was built just down the street from my high school, at the Ballard Marine Railway Company. (in Seattle)

 With a connection like this, maybe I'll have to look into scratchbuilding a 1/700 British yard minesweeper, if I can ever get that APA off my workbench.

Rick 

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Posted by schoonerbumm on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:59 AM

who is she?

She (also a British Cruizer class brig) was a nymph, the daughter of the Titan Atlas (British Duke Class Second Rate, 90 guns). She lived on the island of Ogygia. After the last of Odysseus' men had perished at sea, Odysseus (German fighter director ship) himself was washed ashore on Ogygia, where she became enamored of him, taking him as her lover and promising him immortality if he would stay with her. Odysseus refused her offer, wishing to return home to Ithaca and to his wife, Penelope (British Cruiser). But she refused to let him leave, and held him prisoner for seven years (kinky, eh?). Finally Athena (British aircraft transport) complained of Odysseus' plight to Zeus (no ships named for Zeus!), and Zeus sent Hermes (British Aircraft carrier) to Ogygia to order her to set Odysseus free. She complied reluctantly, allowing Odysseus to construct a small boat and set sail from the island.

Alan

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Posted by subfixer on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:31 AM
 schoonerbumm wrote:

who is she?

 Finally Athena (British aircraft transport) complained of Odysseus' plight to Zeus (no ships named for Zeus!), and Zeus sent Hermes (British Aircraft carrier) to Ogygia to order her to set Odysseus free. .

No, there aren't any named Zeus, but there was a Jupiter (same god, different devotees). Renamed Langley.

C'mon Runkel, you're on the right track. Name this ship, you've got her disposition already.

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Posted by Duke Maddog on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:06 AM

Sounds like the Minewsweeper that was converted to the research ship Calypso and used by Jacques Cousteau for his marine research. I have a model of her sitting on my desk here, "The Undersea World of Jacques Cousteau" was one of my favorite shows back then.  It would be great to see Calypso restored after all the knowledge she helped gain.

 

 

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Posted by runkel on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 1:44 PM

BYMS-26 1942

BYMS-2026 1943

Nymph Calyspso 1947-1949

RV Calypso 1950

Belafonte 2004 movie The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou

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Posted by subfixer on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 7:35 PM
OK runkel, you had essentially got her a few posts back. Your question.  (maddog, since I didn't actually ask her name but what is her status, runkel will get the honor of asking the next question)

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Posted by Duke Maddog on Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:16 AM
That's okay by me. I have no idea what I would have asked anyway. I don't know enough naval history to come up with a decent question. I am however throughly enjoying this Thread!
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Posted by runkel on Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:24 PM

Thanks guys. Sorry for the delay only working 12 to 5 on a pc these days.

What ship lies in 25 metres of water, 1000 metres from the shore. Every year, on the 14th of October, a White Ensign is placed on the hull.

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Posted by RickF on Thursday, June 19, 2008 2:19 PM

Sorry to leap in again,but can't resist an RN question.

The ship is HMS Royal Oak, sunk in Scapa Flow on 14 October 1939 by U-47.

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Posted by runkel on Thursday, June 19, 2008 2:51 PM

RickF

Your up! May be we need more quick one's to keep intrest.

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Posted by RickF on Thursday, June 19, 2008 5:20 PM

OK, another RN question....

Leaving aside relics like HMS Victory, what was the last RN ship with a figurehead?

Rick

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Posted by Repulse36 on Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:20 PM
HMS Espiegle, 1900.
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Posted by RickF on Friday, June 20, 2008 3:54 AM

Very close. Perhaps I should add that there are two possible, but closely connected, answers. I was looking for the last ship with a figurehead to enter service, but I suppose the question could be read as the last ship in service. Bonus points for both!

Rick

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Posted by runkel on Friday, June 20, 2008 2:30 PM
HMS Rodney, an Admiral class barbette battleship launched at Chatham Dockyard in 1884.  It is named after Admiral George Rodney who was in command at the Battle of The Saints in 1782.  In 1894 the Admiralty ordered all figureheads and bow ornaments on battleships to be removed.  When removed in 1897 Rodney's figurehead was the last borne by a modern sea-going battleship in the Royal Navy. 
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Posted by RickF on Friday, June 20, 2008 5:41 PM

Sorry Jim, but we are not talking battleships here - and we are into the twentieth century!

Rick

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Posted by RickF on Monday, June 23, 2008 1:34 PM

Thought I'd bump this up before it falls off the page! Some one have a go, please.

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Posted by subfixer on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:39 PM
As I am pretty much limited to the internet for my references, I don't know where to turn to for this question. I hate to ask, but could you give us a little nudge in the right direction, Rick?

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Posted by RickF on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 2:54 PM

The name of the ship has a connection with the Greek city of Thebes.

Rick

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Posted by schoonerbumm on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 5:44 PM

Based on the reference to Thebes, I think that you may be referring to the sloop HMS Cadmus, sister ship to Espiegle, but entering service three years later (1903 vs. 1900) and taken out of service two years before Espiegle (1921 vs. 1923).

But there is at least one later vessel entering service with a figurehead, HMS Alexandra, a royal yacht built in 1907.

 

 

 

Alan

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Posted by RickF on Thursday, June 26, 2008 6:37 AM

Right again, Alan....well mostly!

The steel screw sloop HMS Cadmus, launched 29th April 1903 was, I believe, the last ship to enter service with a figurehead. She was sold in 1921. Here she is, in all her glory.

Her sister ship, HMS Fantome, I believe to be the last RN ship with a figurehead (discounting HMS Victory). She was sold in 1925.

HMY (not HMS) Alexandra was completed in 1908 and also sold in 1925. I guess we can argue as to whether or not she was technically a Royal Navy ship - she was certainly crewed by the RN. She later served as a luxury Norwegian cruise vessel, Prins Olav  and later still as a flagship of the Norwegian hurtigruten  (Coastal Express) fleet.

HMS Alexandra was a broadside ironclad launched in 1875 and sold in 1908.

So, it's over to you to try and keep this going.

Rick

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Posted by schoonerbumm on Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:33 AM

HMY vs. HMS...  well you learn something new every day. 

Janes does list Alexandra as a Royal Navy vessel in their 1914 edition.

This was a great question. FSM could do an interesting article or column from this thread.

I'm offline for the rest of the day. I'll try to have something equally diabolical posted tonight.

Alan

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Posted by schoonerbumm on Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:51 PM

Next question....

What was the first use of a steam powered vessel in an American military operation?

Name the vessel, its role and the associated battle.

Alan

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Posted by subfixer on Friday, June 27, 2008 8:07 AM
 schoonerbumm wrote:

who is she?

She (also a British Cruizer class brig) was a nymph, the daughter of the Titan Atlas (British Duke Class Second Rate, 90 guns). She lived on the island of Ogygia. After the last of Odysseus' men had perished at sea, Odysseus (German fighter director ship) himself was washed ashore on Ogygia, where she became enamored of him, taking him as her lover and promising him immortality if he would stay with her. Odysseus refused her offer, wishing to return home to Ithaca and to his wife, Penelope (British Cruiser). But she refused to let him leave, and held him prisoner for seven years (kinky, eh?). Finally Athena (British aircraft transport) complained of Odysseus' plight to Zeus (no ships named for Zeus!), and Zeus sent Hermes (British Aircraft carrier) to Ogygia to order her to set Odysseus free. She complied reluctantly, allowing Odysseus to construct a small boat and set sail from the island.

This has nothing to do with the current question, but as I was looking for references to the current question, I found that there was indeed a Zeus. USS Zeus (ARB-4) was a battle damage repair ship that served in the Pacific during WWII. She is still in use today as a seafood processing ship in Alaska under the name Snopac Innovator. Here is a photo of her sister ship Aristaeus (ARB-1):

Image:Aristaeus ARB-1.jpg

 

There is also a USNS Zeus (ARC-7), which is a cable laying ship operated by the MIlitary Sealift Command.

Now, back to the current question.

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Posted by runkel on Friday, June 27, 2008 1:54 PM
USS Fulton, a 2455-ton (1450 tons displacement) center-wheel steam battery, was built at New York City to a design prepared by Robert Fulton, who called her "Demologos". Intended as a heavily-armed and stoutly-built mobile fort for local defense, she was launched in late October 1814, while the War of 1812 was still underway. The ship was completed in 1815 as Fulton, named in honor of her designer, who had died in February of that year. After running trials under steam power, she was delivered to the Navy in June 1816. Other than a single day of active service a year later, when she carried President James Monroe on a cruise in New York Harbor, Fulton was laid up or, after 1825, employed as a floating barracks at the Brooklyn Navy Yard. She was destroyed by a gunpowder explosion on 4 June 1829. Sometimes called "Fulton the First", she was the first steam-powered vessel built for the United States Navy.
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Posted by schoonerbumm on Saturday, June 28, 2008 1:33 AM

As you mention, the Fulton's active service was very limited. As far as I know, she was never involved in a real military operation.

The steam vessel that I am looking for saw active service in support of a famous battle. 

Alan

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