Ship Trivia Quiz

Nice to see this topic resurface. If I knew what USNS meant, I might even try and answer the question!

Rick

Later that same day, April Fool's Day, the Triton was sighted by the only unauthorized person to spot the submarine during her secret voyage - a young Filipino man in a small dugout canoe about 50 yards (46 m) off the Triton's beam. The noted photographer Joseph Baynor Roberts of the National Geographic Magazine was able to snap several photos of this unexpected interloper through the ship's periscope before the Triton moved out of range. The November 1960 issue of National Geographic Magazine would identify of the fisherman as then 19-year-old Rufino Baring of Punta Engano, Mactan Island, who believed that he had encountered a sea monster: "I was very frightened. I tried to get away as fast as I could.

The next question is a toss up. Whomsoever wants to ask it, may go right ahead and do so.

You've got the boat, ddp, now just complete the rest of the question and she's all yours! It' all accessible on the net.

searat12 wrote:

I don't remember all of the details, but I believe this was a Phillipino fisherman photographed through the periscope of USS Nautilus on her first round the world underwater cruise.....

I suppose if "you knew your stuff", like you are fond of telling me (  ), then you'd figure out that little bit of info that you are lacking to land the whole answer. You've got the wrong boat.

Okie-Dokie, I'll put this one out. If you can answer this, you are indeed a deep delver in Wikipedia's abyss. Who is this guy, where was he when the picture was taken, what was his claim to fame, and what (this is a hint) US vessel was the picture taken by during a record breaking cruise?

Friends - I apologize for my inactivity.

I don't have any good questions off the top of my head, and my work is precluding any chance to poke into interesting reference books for an odd question. 

Please make this one a toss-up - first person who wants to present a question should do so.

Rick

You fell into my cunning trap, but now you've got the right answer.

Over to you.

Rick

Rats.  Victoria was rammed on the stbd side.

You must be referring to  HMS Vanguard, rammed by Iron Duke in 1875.  She rests off Kish, in Ireland.

Not this time - try again.

Rick

Not sure what's happened - but there's a question in there somewhere!

Rick

I feel as though I have won by default - I completely forgot about Cook, Resolution/Drake and Adventure/Rayleigh - if I ever knew in the first place - but having been reading about Devonport only last night that immediately sprang to mind. However....

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In the later half of the 19^th Century two Royal Navy battleships collided and one sank after she was holed by the ram of the other, midships on the port side. Over 100 years later the wreck was rediscovered. Name the ship and her final resting place.

Rick

Rick has one of two possible answers, shore establishments obviously can't sail, and the other answer...

Possibly the birth of political correctness. Two vessels were to be sent to the Pacific for a voyage of exploration, HMS Drake and HMS Raleigh. Based on someone's concerns of offending the Spanish, the vessels were renamed HMS Resolution and HMS Adventure. (Not to be outdone, and in the spirit of the New Zealand version of multi-culturalism, the native Maori held a barbeque in honor of the Adventure's crew.)

Rick, the floor is yours.

If your are referring to the current Drake and Raleigh, it's because they are "stone frigates" - shore establishments. They are the Devonport Dockyard and Torpoint Training Establishment respectively.

Rick

hmmm.... you've just given me an idea for a question.

HMS Drake and HMS Raleigh never sailed on their assigned mission.

Why not? 

Lion was never a helicopter cruiser.  Her appearance when scrapped in 1975 was nearly identical to appearance as first commissioned in 1960, less the parts pirated for upkeep of her two sisters during ten years in Reserve.

 DeRuyter...   I wasn't counting the Otomat SSMs as a significant ship conversion, just because I was accustomed to US & European navies slapping Harpoon or Exocet canisters on ships throughout the 70's and 80's without any significant reconstruction.  I wouldn't have argued it with you if it would have been your third candidate.

However, further study of the 87-88 Jane's Fighting Ships  and Combat Fleets of 98-99 shows that the former De Zeven Provincien, the ship that caused this question in the first place, lost her Terrier guided missiles when she was sold to Peru and had a big helicopter hangar and flight deck added, very similar to Tiger and Blake. Peru also switched names around, so that first the ex DeRuyter was named Almirante Grau, and then changed to Proyecto 01, then back to Almirante Grau while De Zeven Provincien started as Aguirre and was later renamed Almirante Grau, and then back to Aguirre...

 aargh - what's next?

According to http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/carriers/uk_helo.htm#c34 Lion was also converted to a helicopter crusier, with work finishing in 1960. She was never converted later into an ASW ship as were her sisters.

DeRuyter was upgraded as a missile carrying cruiser in the Peruvian Navy as Almirante Grau, mounting Ottomat Mk 2 anti-ship missiles in 1993. per  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAP_Almirante_Grau_(CLM-81) 

As for Camperdown, I still haven't been able to find data for her 1957 rebuild. I found info on her 1954 refurbishment, but it wasn't too exciting, just electronics and fire control improvements.

Mr Bumm, I'm just going to have to make some assumptions here. 

First, I'll assume you are referring to the major conversions of HMS Blake and HMS Tiger to helicopter and Commando cruisers, by removing their after main gun mounts and replacing them with a large hangar and flight deck.  Therefore, as HMS Blake is named for Robert Blake, an English General at Sea during the First Anglo Dutch War, and HMS Tiger counts battles from the First and Second Anglo Dutch Wars among her Battle Honours, these ships do fit the stated requirement.  (Camperdown still may, but it seems none of us cared to figure out the justification)

Further, I will assume you were Lion when you implied that any other member of their class fit this requirement, as HMS Lion was, just as HNLMS DeRuyter, left unconverted.

You're up.  :-)

Rick

"fervently clinging" am I??!!!!~!

Surface_Line, you keep getting into these trivial disputes on this trivial forum. You have the tenacity of a Blake.  When you don't get the particular answer that you want, you react with the ferocity of a Lion! I just hope that the Tiger can change its stripes.  

De Ruyter/ Almirante Grau currently has surface to surface missiles.  

Camperdown was rebuilt in 1957: I'm still checking for armament upgrades... but obviously, the electronics/gunnery upgrades would be extreme compared to 1945.

OK - we are agreed that De Zeven Provincien/ Aguire was converted from an all gun cruiser to a guided missile cruiser.

I'm not seeing any description of a similar conversion for her sister, the De Ruyter/ Almirante Grau, or the Camperdown.