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Posted by subfixer on Saturday, July 17, 2010 6:49 AM

amphib

According to the info I have both the Missouri and the Wisconsin, as well as the unfinished Kentucky, were 1 3/4" longer than the New Jersey at the water line. I have a picture showing the Kentucky being moved into drydock to remove the engines. What you can see on the bow and is in the caption is that the upper bow section from the Kentucky and the undamaged lower bow section from the Wisconsin are on deck. So I don't think the Wisconsin got any longer in the process.

However are we talking about waterline length or over all length? Water line length of the Iowa 859'-5 3/4", New Jersey 859'-10 1/4", Missouri, Wisconsin, Kentucky 860'-0" However if you look at overall length Iowa 887'-2 3/4", New Jersey 887'-6 5/8", Missouri, Wisconsin, and Kentucky as designed 887'-3". Therefore even if you added three inches to the overall length of the Wisconsin, New Jersey would still be longer by 5/8".

Like I said, I'm not a shipfitter and don't know the method they used to attach the sections. But I do know that it is an amazing process that allows  major surgery to be performed on a ship's hull. Perhaps from where the attachment of the new section was made, that additional reinforcing structure was necessary to be added that inadvertently lengthened  the hull.  Maybe they're lying, I don't know. What I do know, however, is that the overall measurement of a ship's length isn't made from the length of the waterline but from the ship's actual physical length.

It's one reason that Enterprise retains her two whatchacallits on the bow that look like diving boards (they were used to catch catapult cables used for launching certain aircraft). It gives her bragging rights for being longer than the other carriers in the fleet.

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Posted by bondoman on Saturday, July 17, 2010 9:34 AM

Well, I'd vote for New Jersey. here's my thinking. She's the second oldest, after Iowa. Iowa was 5" shorter, so she's out of the hunt.

In the Navy, you either salute it, or paint it. The NJ went on more cruises, for a longer time, than her successors. So, all that gray paint adds up.

Hey sub, please a little hint. I can't find any songs with that lyric, and only one boat by that name in any dive sites, which also means she did sink.Hmm

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Posted by amphib on Saturday, July 17, 2010 9:49 AM

The only ship I can find by that name was a fishing boat the got into trouble off the coast of Nova Scotia in 1976. The account says she foundered which in my book is the same a sunk.

Bondo

Part of painting a Navy ship involved chipping the old paint off first. That's what all the deck crawlers, needle guns, and chipping hammers on board were for. If we are going for overall length I still vote for the New Jersey although we arguing about a couple of inches in 887 feet.

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Posted by ddp59 on Saturday, July 17, 2010 12:33 PM
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Posted by alumni72 on Saturday, July 17, 2010 1:57 PM

I thought subfixer was looking for the old saw about how there were so many miles between Wisconsin's (original) bow and her stern.

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Posted by subfixer on Saturday, July 17, 2010 3:11 PM

The Johnny and Sisters was sunk. I misasked the question. How did she sink? The answer can be found on the internet.

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Posted by crackers on Sunday, July 18, 2010 1:40 AM

 I served abord the U. S. S. Antietam in 1957 to 1959 as an IC3/c, when she operated as a flight trainer for the Naval Air Station at Pensacola, Florida. I was told that the Antietam was the first American carrier to be fitted with an angle deck during November to December 1952.

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Posted by subfixer on Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:21 PM

Hint time for the Johnny and Sisters: This fishing vessel was having an extraordinarily lucky day.

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Posted by bondoman on Sunday, July 18, 2010 10:36 PM

OK, she caught so many fish that the trawl net dragged her under.

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Posted by Force9 on Monday, July 19, 2010 12:35 AM

I found this tidbit:

Excited Fisherman are Forgetful
The Nova Scotia fishing boat The Johnny and Sisters was so pleased with their record catch of 30,000 lbs., the crew did not remember that the vessels capacity was only 15,000 until they were nearly sunk! **

Of course, it doesn't acknowledge that she foundered...

By the way - avoid naming your fishing vessel Johnny and Sisters... Johnny and Sisters II apparently went down with all hands in a terrific storm in Dec '89 - as did a few other vessels that night.

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Posted by subfixer on Monday, July 19, 2010 2:13 AM

Well done, Force9. You may ask the next trivia question.

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Posted by Force9 on Monday, July 19, 2010 9:23 AM

Anyone know the significance of this otherwise insignificant vessel?

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Posted by ddp59 on Monday, July 19, 2010 12:40 PM

HMCS Rainbow in 1910

The cruiser Rainbow was the first ship commissioned into Canada's navy on August 4, 1910, at Portsmouth, England. She arrived at Esquimalt, British Columbia, on November 7, 1910, and carried out fishery patrols and training duties on Canada's west coast.[

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Canadian_Navy

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Posted by Force9 on Monday, July 19, 2010 2:19 PM

Completely correct! ddp59 you are the undisputed champion of quick trivia turnaround time!

I concede the next question to you

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Posted by ddp59 on Monday, July 19, 2010 5:37 PM

what was the sister ship of hms canada & who was it originally intended for?

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Posted by bondoman on Monday, July 19, 2010 6:07 PM

Her sister ship was Almirante Cochrane, and she was originally intended for Chile.

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Posted by ddp59 on Monday, July 19, 2010 8:11 PM

i was thinking more of her alias.

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Posted by subfixer on Monday, July 19, 2010 9:40 PM

Alias or not, if it's the same vessel, you've got to give it to him. Perhaps with an explanation or disclaimer.

:)

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Posted by amphib on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 8:34 AM

I've got to agree with subfixer. The question implies that you were asking for her name as the sister of HMS Canada not what happened to her after WWI was over or what her name was changed to.

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Posted by ddp59 on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 12:29 PM

bondo, go.

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Posted by bondoman on Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:32 AM

This scene takes place aboard what (ficticious) ship?

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Posted by amphib on Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:46 AM

USS Reluctant

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Posted by bondoman on Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:49 AM

Gee, some movie buffs among us...Yessir that's correct, your turn!

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Posted by amphib on Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:03 PM

When Francis Scott Key wrote the Star Spangled Banner on what British ship was he being held and where was it built?

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Posted by subfixer on Thursday, July 22, 2010 3:37 PM

HMS Minden.  Built at Duncan Docks in Bombay, India.

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Posted by amphib on Thursday, July 22, 2010 3:43 PM

Yupp you got it. Your turn.

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Posted by subfixer on Thursday, July 22, 2010 4:09 PM

Thank you, amphib.

This ship is noted for two important "firsts". What is the less known one?

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Posted by bondoman on Thursday, July 22, 2010 4:29 PM

I suppose the first lesser known would be that the Langley was the first electrically propelled ship in the USN.

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Posted by subfixer on Thursday, July 22, 2010 4:31 PM

Well, my question lasted almost as long as your last one. She's all yours, bondo-homme.

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Posted by bondoman on Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:09 PM

What's the first flush deck aircraft carrier?

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