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Posted by runkel on Friday, August 22, 2008 12:59 PM
Thanks RickF, This ship has the foreparts of one ship and the stern of another despite the 3 1/2" difference in beam?
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Posted by RickF on Friday, August 22, 2008 11:14 AM

You've got it, Jim. The first time Armed Merchant Cruisers (AMCs) fired on each other - a rare occurence. There was also a similar famous incident in WW2 when the US Liberty ship Stephen Hopkins fought the German AMC Stier. Both ships sank.

Rick

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Posted by runkel on Friday, August 22, 2008 10:01 AM

The Carmania had a much more eventful wartime experience. On September 14, 1914 she fought a fierce battle with the Cap Trafalgar  (a German ship of Hamburg Amerika Line which was also converted for use as an Armed Merchant Cruiser) off the Brazilian island of Trinidad. The Carmania managed to sink the German ship but suffered extensive damage with her bridge being blown away in the battle.

Just as it seemed that the fires on Carmania would burn out of control, Cap Trafalgar veered away, lowering lifeboats as she heeled over to port. A shell below the waterline had ruptured several compartments, and the ship was rapidly sinking, although the colliers were able to pull 279 sailors from the wreck before she sank. 51 were killed in the fighting or the sinking (other reports say 16 or 17 lives were lost), including Captain Wirth. Carmania was equally shattered, listing severely, heavily flooded and burning, with nine men dead and many more wounded. It was at this point that Cap Trafalgar's contemporary, the armed merchant cruiser SMS Kronprinz Wilhelm arrived, seemingly to provide the coup de grace for the shattered ship. However, the Kronprinz Wilhelm's captain feared a trap, since many ships both German and Allied in the area had doubtless been listening to the SOS calls of the Cap Trafalgar, which, though in German code, had been supplemented by messages from the Carmania with the British code. Since multiple warships were on their way to the location, and the Cap Trafalgar had presumably already sunk, the captain of the Kronprinz Wilhelm turned his ship about and sailed away without firing a shot.

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Posted by RickF on Thursday, August 21, 2008 3:57 AM

Alan,

Not sure I'd call that a "naval action". The one I'm looking for involved vessels firing on each other.

Rick

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Posted by schoonerbumm on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:47 PM

I suppose one candidate would be the seizure of allied shipping by a sailing vessel, Von Luckner's Seeadler.

 

Alan

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Posted by RickF on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 5:27 PM

What was unique about a naval action early in World War One off the coast of Brazil?

Rick

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Posted by schoonerbumm on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:09 AM

Rick has it.

Key had been sent to negotiate the release of a prisoner, a prominent doctor, held by the British. A small "flag of truce" sloop that he was transported on, was towed by Surprize to the Baltimore area, while Key was a "guest", aboard Surprize, Cochran's temporary flagship.

During the actual bombardment of Fort McHenry Key was placed back on the sloop, and it was anchored with the British transports, out of harms way, eight miles away from the action.

The next morning, Key scribbled a "few random lines" out of the emotions he felt seeing the American flag still flying and watching the British ships withdraw and the amphibious troops reboarding their boats. On the sloop's slow voyage home, the lines "gelled into a poem", which he set to the tune from To Anacreon in Heaven, which had already been used for several American patriotic songs.

It's fitting to have American sporting events open to the melody of an 18th century drinking song.

http://www.contemplator.com/america/anacreon.html 

 

Cochran's Surprize was the 8th to carry the name and one of the many sister ships to Shannon.

 

Alan

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Posted by RickF on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 8:28 AM

I believe "The Star-Spangled Banner" is always sung at baseball games? It was written in 1814 by Francis Scott Key, who watched the attack on Fort McHenry from the deck of HMS Surprize, where he was being held prisoner.

Rick

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Posted by shannonman on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:20 AM

Visit  San Diego and see both  Thumbs Up [tup]

 

"the Padres" San Diego's major league baseball team.

 

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Posted by schoonerbumm on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:45 PM

OK...

What is the connection between HMS Surprize and baseball?

Alan

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Posted by telsono on Monday, August 18, 2008 11:48 AM

schoonerbumm

You got it. I didn't think it was that hard a question. Thanks for the the lyrics as well. The CSS Alabama and the other Confederate raiders hurt the New England whaling fleet a hard blow.

I believe the Alert was burnt as Semmes couldn't afford to place a prize crew on her as well as two other whalers he captured at theat time.

Mike T.

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Posted by schoonerbumm on Monday, August 18, 2008 12:26 AM

I believe that the Alert was a whaler, burned by Captain Raphael Semmes, of the CSS Alabama, near the Azores on September 9, 1862.

Like most sailors of the time, Dana considered whalers the lot of desperate sailors. There's an old shanty, The Sailor's Prayer that sums it up...

"This dirty town has been my home, since last time I was sailing.

But I won't stay another day, I'd sooner be a whalin'...

chorus: (the sailor's prayer) 

Oh, Lord above, send down a dove, with a beak as sharp as razors,

To slit the throats of them there blokes, what sells bad beer to sailors."

 

Alan

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Posted by telsono on Friday, August 15, 2008 3:44 PM

Thanks Jim;

 The vessel, Alert, on which Richard Henry Dana sailed and wrote about in "Two Years Before the Mast" was sunk during the American Civil War.

What business was the Alert engaged in?

What date and where was she sunk?

What or whom was the cause of her sinking?

MIke T.

 

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Posted by runkel on Friday, August 15, 2008 2:56 PM
telsono, your up. I had the wrong ship DD-347 the Pruitt.
Jim
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Posted by telsono on Friday, August 15, 2008 2:19 PM

Would that have been the USS Decatur completed in 1922?

Mike T.

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Posted by runkel on Friday, August 15, 2008 12:25 PM
Thanks Shannonman,

Which four funnel  Destroyer was the last built for the U.S. Navy?

Jim
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Posted by shannonman on Friday, August 15, 2008 11:06 AM

You're right runkel ,

I was hoping to catch a few of you out with this one Whistling [:-^].

Over to you again.

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Posted by runkel on Thursday, August 14, 2008 2:14 PM
USS John F. Kennedy (CV-67)
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Posted by shannonman on Thursday, August 14, 2008 2:07 PM

OK, Which ship was nicknamed,

"The Can Opener" ?. or just " Can Opener".

"Follow me who can" Captain Philip Broke. H.M.S. Shannon 1st June 1813.
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Posted by runkel on Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:24 PM
shannonman  Your up now. Wow, I thougt that would last about 10 minutes.
Jim
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Posted by shannonman on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 5:01 PM
USS John F. Kennedy (CV-67)
"Follow me who can" Captain Philip Broke. H.M.S. Shannon 1st June 1813.
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Posted by runkel on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 3:45 PM
Thanks RickF, Nice easy one, What US carrier underway at the end of 1999, earning the ship the nickname "Carrier of the New Millennium"?
Jim
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Posted by RickF on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:48 AM

Alan,

Despite being published by Guinness, the authors of the book in question have (or had) a pretty good pedigree. Gervis Freere-Cook was (he is dead) the curator of the Submarine Museum here in the UK. K J Macksey was Deputy editor of Purnell's History of the First World War and History of the Second World War and is the author of over 45 books, both fiction and non-fiction. None of this, of course, makes them correct.

Anyway, given your tag-line, you ought to be in  favour of anything brewery-related  Smile [:)]

Rick

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Posted by schoonerbumm on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:00 AM

Nope, this illustrates the fact that you can't trust historical research coming from a bunch of guys in a brewery.

 

 

Alan

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Posted by subfixer on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:25 PM
 RickF wrote:

 As Jim is the first to mention Lepanto and regardless of any other claimants, I award the honour of asking the next question to him and rapidly duck out of any controversy!

Over to you, runkel.

Rick

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Posted by RickF on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:41 PM

Once again this illustrate the fact that, depending on which reference you have in front of you,  the answer to any particular question is not always clear cut.

The Guinness book states categorically that the Battle of Lepanto - 1571 - saw the first sinking of a ship by gunfire. As Jim is the first to mention Lepanto and regardless of any other claimants, I award the honour of asking the next question to him and rapidly duck out of any controversy!

Over to you, runkel.

Rick

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Posted by runkel on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 1:30 PM
Another noteworthy aspect of Korea's heavy fire-arms is that they were not all invented to meet the sudden emergency of war. These weapons in fact made their appearance some 200 years prior to the Seven Year War. Thanks to the efforts of Choi Mu-son, a general and a chemist, Korea began manufacturing and developing gunpowder and power-based weapons. Korean cannons first saw action in 1380 against a large fleet of Japanese pirate ships, and were found to be a great success. In comparison, the first naval battle to have employed cannons in Europe was the Battle of Lepanto (1571), 200 years later.
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Posted by Duke Maddog on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:55 AM
Now that is a battle I'd love to read about!
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Posted by schoonerbumm on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:13 AM

I don't have the Guiness book, but Peter Padfield's Guns at Sea chronicles Vasco de Gama's fight against an Arab fleet off of the coast of India in about 1500 AD.

He executed the first recorded "standoff" fight, 88 years before the Spanish Armada, dismasting and sinking several Arab vessels by gunfire and avoided being overwhlemed from boarding by his numerically superior opponent.

Alan

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Posted by RickF on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 4:18 AM

Not according to the "Guinness History of Sea Warfare", which I am using as a reference here.

Rick

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