Ship Trivia Quiz

Early in the morning of 3 November 1916 the German submarine U-22 was lying 12 nautical miles south-west of Rauma. On the 26 October 1916 Jönköping was loaded and ready to make her tenth voyage to Rauma that year. The crew consisted of the captain, E B Eriksson, who was also one of the owners, and four others. When Jönköping left Gävle her cargo included iron goods such as nuts, bar iron and h-hooks , but the main part of the cargo consisted of cognac, wine and champagne for the Russian tsar: 50 cases of champagne, 17 barrels of wine and 67 barrels of cognac. The weight of the cargo was 96 tons, of which 60.5 tons was wine and spirits. Eriksson would do anything to save his ship. Hoppe, however, had already made up his mind: since this was Jönköping's tenth voyage this year transporting contraband, Hoppe told Eriksson that enough was enough - Jönköping had to be sunk. THEY LEFT THE BOOZE!

I guess ddp59 has the right anwser, but I like my story better.

http://www.gwpda.org/naval/sml00001.htm

or sank the destroyer hms exmouth in january 1940 near scapa flow just months after hms royal oak was sunk there.

http://www.geocities.com/exmouthhms1940assoc/scottishdailymailmonday.htm

Thanks Jim,

Here's another easy one (I think). What "first" was achieved by U-22, and when, and why was it not celebrated in Germany?

Rick

Sorry, but that was a very easy "Google".......

Every day: 1 lb. hard bread, and 1/2 pt. "spirits" or 1 quart beer.

Sunday: 1 1/2 lbs. salt beef, and 1/2 pt. rice.

Monday: 1 lb. salt pork, 1/2 pt. peas or beans, and 1/4 lb. cheese.

Tuesday: 1 1/2 lbs. salt beef and 1 lb. potatoes or turnips.

Wednesday: 1/2 pt. rice, 1/4 lb. cheese, and 2 oz. butter or molasses or 6 oz. of oil.

Thursday: 1 lb. salt pork and 1/2 pt. peas or beans.

Friday: 1 lb. salt fish, 1 lb. potatoes or turnips, and 2 oz. of butter or molasses or 6 oz. of oil.

Saturday: 1 lb. salt pork, 1/2 pt. peas or beans, and 1/4 lb. cheese.

Rick

davros thank you. I thought this trivia was going to die. A little OT but I will try this. In 1798 the U S Navy needed To simplify the problem of determining the amount of food needed for the ships' crews and its cost, and borrowing from the British Admiralty, it was decided to legislate a specific diet to be served each man each day of the week, regardless of the size of the ship or where she was serving. As originally provided, the legislated "menu," which was valued at twenty-eight cents per ration per day, was as follows:  (name the rations}

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Runkel has named all three boats and got the other parts of the question.

Designed by one country - Germany

Built by another - Built by Britain (at the Vickers yard here in my home town of Barrow).

The names - Gal,Rahav and Tanin.

The Israeli navy reused the names Rahav and Tanin (from the boats mentioned in you reply) but Gal was named after the son of the head of the build project.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gal_class_submarine

My question was inspired by a conversation with a former shipyard worker who was involved in the construction of the subs.

Anyway; over to you Runkel.

This is a bump to bring this thread back to the top where it might get rolling again.

Since the establishment of the submarine fleet at the end of the 1950s, the Israel Navy has had eight submarines. The first of them, the Rahav and Tanin, arrived in Israel in 1959 and 1960. INS Tanin participated in the landing of naval commandos in the port of Alexandria and the mine attack at the entrance to the port.

Four days without another attempt to answer. Either my question was too hard (doubtful) or nobody wants to have to come up with a new question. Time for a little clue, I think.

There is a link that can be accessed from ddp59's link that has the answer.

 Okay; that's a big clue not a little one.

ddp59 wrote:

three new Dolphin class diesel-electric submarines constructed in Germany. Dolphin, and its sister ships Leviathan and Tekuma. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Society_&_Culture/navy1.html

Sorry but they're not the ones I'm looking for. You are close but your answer does not meet the requirements of the question.

three new Dolphin class diesel-electric submarines constructed in Germany. Dolphin, and its sister ships Leviathan and Tekuma.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Society_&_Culture/navy1.html

Sorry for taking so long to come up with a new question. Thinking up a new question is harder than getting the right answer. All I can think of, at the moment, is probably going to be answered fairly quickly.

Designed by one country, built by another, these subs were a third country's first subs that were not secondhand (pre-owned) ones. Can you name all three and the country that they were built for?

You got it.  The connection works like this:

The Revell Viking ship is based on the full-size replica that crossed the Atlantic in 1893, and used to be exhibited at Lincoln Park, Chicago.  That replica in turn is based on the Gokstad Ship, one of the two more-or-less complete surviving Norse ships exhibited at the Viking Ship Museum in Oslo, Norway.  The Gokstad Ship also was the basis for two of the three replicas used in the filming of the movie "The Vikings," which starred Ernest Borgnine as "Ragnar," the boss Viking.

Mr. Borgnine also starred in the TV series "McHale's Navy" (and in three feature-length movies based on it).  The series used somewhat modified Vosper torpedo boats (people who know more about PT boats than me can go into more detail about what the modifications were).  And the Revell 1/72-scale kit was originally released (in 1965, according to Dr. Graham's book) with the label "McHale's Navy PT-73" (complete with four figures, including one of Mr. Borgnine).  It was reissued in 1968 under the name "British Vosper MTB."

So Mr. Borgnine sort of "commanded" the ships on which the two kits were based.  (In my opinion it's sort of unfortunate that so many people associate him with "McHale's Navy" and "Airwolf."  He's actually quite a versatile dramatic and comedic actor, with quite a few fine movies to his name.)

You're up, davros.

I think the connection is Ernest Borgnine. He was in the films The Vikings and McHale's Navy.

McHale's Navy used a Vosper boat as PT-73.

I have the impression that I'm not the only movie buff in this Forum.  So here's one that may be instantly obvious or not - depending on how many movies and other forms of screen entertainment one watches.

In other Forum threads fairly recently a couple of Revell ship kits have been discussed:  the Vosper torpedo boat and the Viking ship.  There's a curious, screen-related connection between them.  What is it?

Right?

Absolutely! That was quick and painless, you're up Profesor! 

The thigh thwart of a nineteenth-century American whaleboat is located near the bow.  It has a padded, semi-circular cutout in it.  The harpooner and the mate brace their thighs in it when they're using the harpoon and lance, respectively, to harpoon and kill the whale.

Right?

Wow!, In everything I connected with, there wasn't any mention of the DEW line!

OK, I'll be much gentler.......the object is a Thigh Thwart, where is it found, and what is its purpose? 

that's a scary thought, but it just reflects the current trend nowadays.  I don't trust Wikipedia for anything but a reminder of something that I already knew, but couldn't recall without something to trigger a memory.  Anybody can write or edit a Wikipedia article, with no requirement as to truth or accuracy.  I'll use it to look up a band's discography if I want to see what might be available at Amazon, for instance - but as a research tool there are many much more reliable sources out there.

 And now, back to our regularly scheduled programming.

Aarrgggh.

I guess that's as close as it's going to get.  I was looking for the fact that they both served on the DEW Line in the late 1950's.  

(And since I've noticed that a considerable amount of our research for this Ship Trivia Quiz seems to come from Wikipedia, I was surprised to note that Wikipedia didn't acknowledge the shipborne component of the DEW Line - the AGRs and the DERs, between 1957 and 1966).  They weren't co-located or anything, Vance was based in Seattle and Outpost was based in Quonset Point, RI, but the overall mission was the same, and there were only a total of a couple of dozen ships that participated in this duty.

Sumpter - you're up. 

Rick 

From above:"Another hint?  The common thread is the type of duty carried out by the two ships in question"

OK, Straws in the wind, I grasp at thee, 

USS Vance was a DER, O'Gara was converted to USS Outpost, an AGR, both Radar picket ships.

Desperation potshot:

Neil Sheehan was the author of both "The Arnheiter Affair" and "A Bright and Shining Lie: John Paul Vann and America in Vietnam"; he also authored an article titled "The Erosion of Liberty".  (along with "The Pentagon Papers".)

 All I can see is the word Liberty in the one article title and the name Arnheiter in the book title.  Never read A Bright and Shining Lie, but there could be something in there to make the connection. 

If anybody can get anything out of that, fantastic.

This is all I could dig up.

Another controversy in the sixties surrounded the relief of Lieutenant Commander Marcus A. Arnheiter from the command of the destroyer escort Vance. Arnheiter was a highly individualistic skipper who apparently engaged in certain irregular and illegal practices while serving in the Vance. His real crime was that he completely destroyed the morale and effectiveness of his officers and men through excessive zeal and extremely poor leadership.

I wasn't able to get anywhere with this one for 1966.

O'Gara was recomissioned as Outpost in 1957, but de-comissioned in 1965.

 The Caine Mutiny was written and filmed in the 50s.

There's an obvious comparison between Arnheiter and Queeg. But, Arnheiter's only command was the Vance, he was in Ingersoll before that. Perhaps one of the Vance's other officers served on the Outpost. 

We need to get this turkey wrapped up and put to bed, with or without digital vegetable throwing.

The 1966 event was documented in "The Arnheiter Affair" by Neil Sheehan.

There really was something in common between the ship that was the subject of this book and the ship that had been the SS Francis J. O'Gara.

Please, somebody help me here.