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Posted by Surface_Line on Monday, December 31, 2007 1:30 PM

Actually, I'd be leery about that statement in the book: "In 1902 Russia sent the cruiser Askold, the only five-funnelled warship in the world, to the Persian Gulf;... " because the French at that time had five and six funnelled warships.  But I digress; our subject here was the Royal Navy, and unless our books were all quoting the same source, Billy and I have several that claim Viking was the only Royal Navy ship with six real funnels.

 I think my question this time is much easier, though certainly focused on the USN.

Three FFG-7 class frigates: USS Carr, USS Copeland and USS Samuel B Roberts - what do they have in common, other than their class?

 Let's knock this out and then get on to more serious trivia for the New Year.

Rick 

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Posted by AJB93 on Monday, December 31, 2007 11:55 AM
Ahhh! That explains it! Great question!
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Posted by davros on Monday, December 31, 2007 6:02 AM

That explains it. It's nice to know something new about a Barrow-built boat.

 

From less than half a mile from where HMS Amphitrite was built

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Posted by RickF on Monday, December 31, 2007 4:36 AM

OK, guys, here is the definitive answer. It appears in a book - The Royal Navy in Old Photographs (1975) - by Wifrid Trotter, a well-respected Naval Historian.

"In 1902 Russia sent the cruiser Askold, the only five-funnelled warship in the world, to the Persian Gulf; the Persians were con­siderably impressed. Britain ordered HMS Amphitrite, then on her way to the China Station, to proceed to Muscat. Amphitrite, an 11,000-ton first-class protected cruiser, was larger than Askold but had only four funnels, so the Captain rigged two extra funnels of wood and canvas and led smoke to them. Thus prestige was restored!"

However, "Surface Line" has come up with a genuine six-funneled RN ship, so it's over to him for the next question.

Happy New Year!

Rick

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Posted by AJB93 on Sunday, December 30, 2007 4:19 PM

Ok, shot in the dark, but was it HMS Glory, which once was Askold and was seized and used as a depot ship? Askold had 5 funnels, but what the heck, just guessing.

edit-no, she was built in Germany ::sigh:: 

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Posted by billydelawder on Sunday, December 30, 2007 1:31 PM
After lookin through my Copy of Jane's Fighing Ships Of WWI, I was gonna Say Viking, but the date didn't seem right to me.
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Posted by RickF on Sunday, December 30, 2007 5:12 AM

OK, so we've got a "right" answer - but not the one I was expecting! Well done Rick, I had forgotten (or never knew!!) about Viking.

The ship I was looking for has been mentioned earlier. And yes, the Askold was involved in the "incident". I'd like to let this run for a day longer to see if anyone can connect the two. If not, this time tomorrow I will come clean, and the other Rick will be the winner.

Rick

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Posted by Surface_Line on Sunday, December 30, 2007 12:42 AM

The only six-funnelled ship in the Royal Navy, per Edgar March, "British Destroyers" was HMS Viking, built 1909 at Palmers, confirmed in "Destroyers of the Royal Navy 1893-1981", by Maurice Coker and "Hard Lying, the Birth of the Destroyer" by Peter Smith.  The first and third books each have photos of Viking.

Viking was one of the "F" class or first Tribal class. 

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Posted by RickF on Friday, December 28, 2007 3:46 AM
Getting warmer!
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Posted by Surface_Line on Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:06 PM
Sounds like Askold is involved...
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Posted by RickF on Thursday, December 27, 2007 5:30 PM
OK.... Back from the snows of Austria and pleased to see that my question has generated some interest. It wasn't a collision - more a question of national pride. The other ship was a Russian cruiser, which had more funnels than .... but that's enough clues for now!
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Posted by alumni72 on Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:49 PM

I know I was curious as all get-out; here is a link to some pics of the Italia class mentioned by runkel:

http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/italia_class.htm

 

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Posted by runkel on Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:51 PM

I know this is not the one you are looking for, but.


This is the Italian (former) battleship (ex-)Italia, hulked at Brindisi as floating battery, between 1915 and 1917. Italia was completed in 1885 as a rather unusual battleship. She originally had six funnels (3 forward and 3 aft), and a single central mast; her speed of about 18 knots was very high for the day. She could accommodate thousands of troops, making her somewhat of a cruiser-transport rather than a pure battleship. The arrangment of her main armament was equally unusual, as she had four guns in a large armored citadel, with no turret or other overhead protection at all. This was the era of giant guns, so she was fitted with 17 inch pieces; three 17"/26 caliber, and one 17"/27 caliber. In 1905-1908 she was modified to the form seen here, with the funnels reduced to four, and a pair of masts fitted.

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Posted by AJB93 on Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:42 AM
The only Royal Navy ship to have six funnels was a destroyer. Her name escapes me at the moment.
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Posted by davros on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 7:12 AM

This one has me puzzled. Of the six vessels we launched, in 1898, only one was for the Navy; HMS Amphitrite. The only collision I can find recorded for her was with HMS Nessus but that happened in the North Sea.

 

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Posted by subfixer on Saturday, December 22, 2007 5:22 PM
I'm thinking collision.

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Posted by EPinniger on Saturday, December 22, 2007 12:01 PM
I'd be interested to know the answer to this one! I assume that for it to be modified with six funnels, the ship must have had a fair number in the first place - which suggests a cruiser (or possibly an early destroyer/TBD, but I doubt one of these would be found as far afield as Oman). The closest match I can find is the light cruiser HMS Highflyer, built in 1898 - www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk actually has a photo of this ship in Muscat harbour, though it doesn't give a date.  However, it was not built by Vickers, and I can't find any reference to it ever having six funnels...
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Posted by subfixer on Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:54 AM
That will be sufficient, thank you and enjoy your holiday!

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Posted by RickF on Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:16 AM

It is a legitimate warship, built at Vickers Limited, Barrow in Furness and launched in 1898. At the time in question she was at Muscat, in the Persian Gulf, and another ship was involved.

Enough clues for now, I think!

Rick

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Posted by subfixer on Thursday, December 20, 2007 5:59 AM
Hey Rick, don't leave us hanging out to dry! Is this a legitimate ship or some kind of a mock-up? You stated "light-hearted" so I am taking this as a somewhat less than a normal subject and might not be in any routine reference material.

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Posted by RickF on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 6:28 AM

OK, it's coming up to the Festive Season, so here's a light-hearted RN question. I will be off to Austria on Friday, so if it's not answered by then, I'll be back after Christmas. As I say, it's slightly less than serious!

What was the name of the Royal Navy's only (to the best of my knowledge) six-funneled warship?

Rick

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Posted by subfixer on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 5:11 AM
You've got it Rick, the mine incident killed, from the initial mine detonation to the following one, 150 RN sailors and 18 of the 43 surviving Germans from the KL (original complement of 100). The war was only 36  hours old. Your turn with a new question.

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Posted by RickF on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 6:06 PM

An RN question!

HMS Amphion, sunk on 6th August 1914, by mines laid by the Koeinig Luise, a disguised German minelayer.

The ironic part, I suppose, was that she was carrying survivors from the KL, which had been sunk by destroyers the previous day. After survivors were taken off Amphion, she drifted onto another mine. The fore magazine exploded, with debris striking the rescue boats and destroyers. One of Amphion's shells burst on the deck of HMS Lark, killing two of the Amphion's men and a German prisoner.

Rick

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Posted by subfixer on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 10:12 AM
Here is the next question: What was the name of the first British warship to be sunk during World War I? And what was ironic in her loss?

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Posted by jlbishop on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:48 AM

You are correct Sir!  No worries on it being "too easy"....remember that it's _always_ easy when you know the answer!  :-)

 

Over to you!

 John

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Posted by subfixer on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:08 AM
That was too much of a hint, I am embarassed to give the answer now. The USS Olympia is the oldest surviving steel warship afloat.

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Posted by jlbishop on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 7:47 AM

Ok here is a hint:

 This ship is also the oldest steel warship afloat in the world today!

 John

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Posted by subfixer on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 6:21 AM
This is a pretty obscure subject, any hints? I am going to take a stab at it anyway, was it the Monitor?

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Posted by jlbishop on Sunday, December 16, 2007 10:37 AM
What was the name of the first US Navy ship with a mechanically chilled fresh water dispenser (i.e. "Scuttlebutt")?
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Posted by ddp59 on Saturday, December 15, 2007 4:21 PM
correct. your turn.
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