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Posted by erush on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:07 PM
I'll load some of them up tonight Ron.

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Posted by David Voss on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:01 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by RonUSMC
Pre-WW2
WW2 Axis
WW2 Allies
Modern US
Modern Other


That looks good too. We can go with it and see how things develop. I was hoping to get feedback from others for aircraft and ships as to what would make sense. Blush [:I]

I'll try working on it some more tonight.

QUOTE: Originally posted by RonUSMC
I think the problem might have been the size of the albums. Right now the list times out at the reference images list. I put that at the end. Im also sending a CS ticket to my server to see if they can increase the processing time of php on my site.


Is it due to the number of images in an album or the number of albums/categories? Is the timeout on the main (top level) page where it goes through everything?

Another thing that might help is to check on caching for the images. I have to admit I'm not familiar with how to do it on Apache servers, but like for us, I can select a folder and set the cache for all the objects in it anywhere from a couple of seconds to weeks.
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Posted by RonUSMC on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 1:11 PM
Upload some of your pics erush.
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Posted by erush on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 1:06 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by David Voss

Anyone else reading this thread IS more than welcome to add to this thread. Wink [;)]


Dave may not build models Evil [}:)] Wink [;)] but he does a pretty bang up job on the forum so imagine that between the 2 of y'all it'll be good to go in no time.

Ron, thanks again for the trouble you've gone to to set this server up for us.

Dave, you're alright too, I don't care Robert says about you. Wink [;)] Big Smile [:D]

Thanks guys, the plan you have there sounds pretty good.

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Posted by RonUSMC on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 12:10 PM
Why dont you do this. Go ahead and create the sub-albums under Armor and Aircraft that you want, then we can talk about them later today. Remember to rename the album from inside to rename the actual folder name that the new album will use. I was thinking...

Pre-WW2
WW2 Axis
WW2 Allies
Modern US
Modern Other

and the same categories for Aircraft? What do you think?... if you want to get more detailed, go ahead. We can always delete the albums later if you decide not to. I think the problem might have been the size of the albums. Right now the list times out at the reference images list. I put that at the end. Im also sending a CS ticket to my server to see if they can increase the processing time of php on my site.
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Posted by David Voss on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 11:58 AM
Anyone else reading this thread IS more than welcome to add to this thread. Wink [;)]
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Posted by David Voss on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 11:57 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by RonUSMC
If I would have known that we would be at 3000 images in 4 months, I would have taken more precautions. I just did not imagine the size and scale of what was needed or what we were undertaking.


I don't think anyone could have imagined the size and scale of the Gallery. It was definitely amazing seeing the number of excellent photos there were.

A folder for each group build is a great idea!

I know you said not to create too many subfolders, especially one for every group of folders. I am wondering if subfolders would be useful for some of the categories. What do you think about a folder for time periods? For example: Armor might have WWI & pre-WWII, WWII (1939-1945), 1946-1960, 1961-1980, 1981-PRESENT? I'm not sure how exactly to divide up the Post WWII period. I hate to come off as being "America-centric" and only say Korea, Vietnam, Somalia and Iraq I & II (no offense, just trying to be brief in listing conflicts). Whereas you had a lot of other wars fought throughout the globe. So a period of years would probably be best for the header, whereas in the description a list of conflicts can always be included. For WWII because of it's popularity, we could go one level deeper by either nationality, fronts, or ?? and at the same level include one for dioramas and misc. The same could be done for Aircraft and ships.

Phew...Okay, I'm done for now. Blush [:I]
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Posted by RonUSMC on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 11:32 AM
Also... what about a folder for group builds? That would be a neat thing. Create a folder for each group build, then a picture of each person's models.
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Posted by RonUSMC on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 11:11 AM
I had to totally delete them. It was very sad, because there were so many great models displayed. There were so many problems with the gallery though. It was timing out like crazy.

Im sure the people who uploaded the images still have copies of them though, and can reupload them. This time you and I can do a quality assurance on it to ensure an incredible gallery.

If I would have known that we would be at 3000 images in 4 months, I would have taken more precautions. I just did not imagine the size and scale of what was needed or what we were undertaking.

I blame myself for not setting down any rules or being whimsical about it and that resulted in the destruction of the galleries.

This time... we will be new and improved though! You need to upload some of your models to get us started, Im going to upload a few of mine right now. Remember to caption them properly.
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Posted by David Voss on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 1:05 AM
Do you still have any of the photos from the 3 albums or have they been totally deleted?
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Posted by RonUSMC on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 12:35 AM
Ifranview can also crop images. Its extremely handy. One of the best freeware programs out there in the world I think.
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Posted by David Voss on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 12:33 AM
Cropping an image also helps. Smile [:)]

If the actual subject of the photo takes up 1/4 of the photo, crop the image before resizing it. It's not only reduce the file size, but keeps what's important.

If you need help with that too...When you go to name your photo, rename it with CROP ME as the very first words of the caption. As an example:

CROP ME RonUSMC's M1A1 by Trumpeter

(have to love plagiarizing) Smile [:)]

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Posted by RonUSMC on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 12:29 AM
Good points. The Gallery will change the format, resize dimensions, and create a thumbnail. It wont alter the size of it though.

For anyone needing to get it under 100kb... download Ifranview, which is found here:
http://irfanview.tuwien.ac.at/

It is a free program and very small. Install it and then follow this wonderful step by step instruction page on how to resize the photo, http://www.larry-bolch.com/save-for-web/irfanview.htm

After you have your completed photo under 100kb, upload it into the 'upload here' folder. Then someone will check it out and move it.

If you absolutely are completely lost on how to resize, do this. When you go to name your photo, rename it with RESIZE ME as the very first words of the caption. As an example:

RESIZE ME RonUSMC's M1A1 by Trumpeter

If it is over 100kb, then someone can see that easily and take care of it for you.
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Posted by David Voss on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 12:28 AM
Clicked through all the sub albums in the Reference Images to take care of that "Upgrade Album" page that would appear.
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Posted by David Voss on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 12:21 AM
Sign - Ditto [#ditto]

There were a lot of duplicates or pictures with very subtle differences. It's great we have very enthusiastic modelers, but things start adding up. The reference photos were great though (the real stuff).

Photo names are very helpful. Not everyone knows what the picture is supposed to be. Blush [:I]

Ron, some people aren't all that familiar with photo editing, resizing images, etc. What do you think about a temporary photo album where people could upload images and volunteers could resize and save the images into something more manageable. I don't remember if the gallery application had the ability to do that or not. I wouldn't mind doing a bunch here and there.
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Posted by RonUSMC on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 12:17 AM
Dioramas can have up to 6 pictures because of the complexity.
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Posted by RonUSMC on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 12:14 AM
Another Note, very important!

Describe your pictures! Please put your name on them, or atleast the model name.. ship name or something. Then you can put comments about it to describe it to your peers. A photo named "dsc_017.jpg" and that is it is NOT helpful at all.
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Re-Upload your model photos! Gallery updated, new rules, etc
Posted by RonUSMC on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 12:07 AM
Everyone that has been around awhile knows what is going on. Here is what happened. I started the gallery not knowing so many people needed to upload images, so I didnt pay much attention in the beginning to what everyone was uploading. This became a problem down the road. People uploaded photoshop stuff, game screenshots, and in one case over 95 photos of the same model, lol. Its ok though, I am starting it fresh. The galleries that got the axe were armor, aircraft, working, and upload. Here is what this means to you!

Reupload your photos. Go to http://rongeorge.com/modules/Gallery/upload and using the new logon, newfsm and models as the password, upload your photos. Here are things to bear in mind.

Username: newfsm
Password: models

1. Max of 4 pictures of the same model. Exceptions can be made, but the pictures need to be VERY high quality (not size). As in studio quality. Dioramas can have up to 6 pictures because of the complexity.

2. Dont worry about resizing, the program will do it for you.

3. The Upload album is the 'holding pen' for the images. After they enter that album, someone will look at them, make sure they are the right size and subject and then move them to an appropriate gallery. This eliminates the hours I have spent finding reference photos all over the site and having to move them. I will be adding things to this as I think of them, but right now.. this should work for the long term.

4. Another Note, very important!

CAPTION your pictures! Please put your name on them, or atleast the model name.. ship name or something. Then you can put comments about it to describe it to your peers. A photo captioned "dsc_017.jpg" and that is it - is NOT helpful at all.
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