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  • From: Alice Springs Australia
Posted by tweety1 on Wednesday, May 5, 2004 8:33 AM
Big Smile [:D] I LOVE THAT!Big Smile [:D]

Your a genius mate!
The Aus Made tag is the clincher.

*cough* copyright breach *cough*

And to think, some guy was telling me just the other day that nothing good ever came outta Northam.
Tongue [:P]Wink [;)] j/k

One question, how did you manage to post the pics in your post.
I know how to get the sig, but in the post itself, I have no idea!

Tongue [:P]
--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???
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Posted by luke on Wednesday, May 5, 2004 8:04 PM
ok - thanks for the comments so far guys!!Cool [8D]


ILuv3ggs - I assume once everyones seen it and agreed on it, then we can use it (personally I'm itching to use it use myself Big Smile [:D])

tweety - posting images in the signature is the same as in posts. Use the picture-insert icon or type and just insert the picture hyperlink as you do with photos. I'll allow you to do it with our GB piccy Smile [:)]. For thos who dont know how to insert pics, I'll explain it for y'all!

Example
Step 1: type
Step2: right mouse click on the pic, select properties, and copy the Address URL in full like with any other pic!
Step3: insert this URL address inbetween the with no spaces between the brackets & the address.
Step4: Wollah . . .


I though last nite being West Australian, I should have put EB for Emu Bitter instead of GB for 'Group Build'. But after a hard days modelling, You need a big cold beer, And the best cold beer is Vic . . . Victoria Bitter. So I should put "Aussie VB" in there instead Tongue [:P]!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 5, 2004 9:43 PM
Hello again fellow Aussie modellers.

I put up a post in the airbrush/painting section but got no response so I thought I would try here.

I am currently using Tamiya spray can primer for my aircraft - but at $10.00 a can they are getting a bit expensive. Can anyone recommend a good primer that is cheaper and in a larger can and is readily available in Oz?

Thanks for your help.
Regards, Bob
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 6, 2004 1:47 AM
[:0]Bob are we supposed to prime before we paint i didnt know that i just start with the lightest colour first and go from there seams dont seem to be a problem.But if i was to prime a model i would use an acrylic light grey and run it through my airbrush.[:0]

Luke the Austalia made logo is solid gold mateCool [8D]LOVE ITCool [8D]
Thanks for the info on putting in pictures ive been wondering how to do it.

Tweety1 what does PE for the Phantom mean and if you want to see a pic of the CAC Avon Sabre i was telling you about go to www.notebookpub.com and click on books.

3eggs do you know were i can get some pledge one go around Brisbane.
and i have some good pics of Austalian Leopards and other AFV during the 1980s. J.S.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 6, 2004 2:06 AM
Hi Folks'

I'll add my details also, name's Rob, another Victorian, living in Melb. Lee Tree been awhile since we've spoken.

Rob.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 6, 2004 2:16 AM
Forgot to ask this question in my last post. Was I the only one a little bit dissapointed in the latest issue of modelart Australia?
J.S.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 6, 2004 4:23 AM
Hello J.S.

Thanks for your reply - I will try my next model without priming and see how it goes.

I bought a bottle of Pledge One Go from Woolworths here on the Gold Coast so I would assume they would have it in Brisbane as well.

Modelmart mag - in a word - crap!

Regards,

Bob

Post edited because I forgot to welcome Rob to the Forum - Welcome Rob - nice to see you here!
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  • From: Alice Springs Australia
Posted by tweety1 on Thursday, May 6, 2004 4:26 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison

Tweety1 what does PE for the Phantom mean and if you want to see a pic of the CAC Avon Sabre i was telling you about go to www.notebookpub.com and click on books.




The PE stands for Photo EtchedSmile [:)]

Actually I might just make them OOB, just for something different.
Besides, you can't improve on Aussie Made. Naturally it's the best!Big Smile [:D]

The CAC Sabre is a fine exampleCool [8D]
--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???
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Posted by tweety1 on Thursday, May 6, 2004 4:31 AM
HI rob, welcome.

As for the ModelArt mag, it was a little boring.

There has to be more material out there that can be accesed to give it more staying power.

Maybe more reader input etc?

Ah well, at least there is always Finescale to fall back onBig Smile [:D]
--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 6, 2004 8:25 AM
Lobbie i just left you a post in the welcome introduce yourself thread telling you about this little corner of Oz but i see you have found us already.If you are interested South Aussie organised an all Aussie group build with an Oct finish.

Thanks Bob will try Woolworths,just one Question ok 2, do you use it instead of gloss clear or just for dipping canopies, and if you airbrush it do you thin it.

tweety1now your trying to confuse me OOB im guessing that means out of box,maybe just add some PE seat belts thats all i do on good kits like Tamiya or Hasegawa oh and some fuse wire brake lines on the struts.Just out of curiosity does anyone make the cac sabre because they were differant from the F86 in engine and guns. I wouldnt mind making a 76th sqd sabre "black panthers" but the NMF worries me a little never done it before.
CHEERS J.S.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 6, 2004 4:16 PM
Hello again J.S.

Swanny has a great article on his website re Future (similar to Pledge One Go) - have a look here - it should tell you all you want to know.

Regards,

Bob

http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html

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  • From: South Australia
Posted by South Aussie on Friday, May 7, 2004 12:13 AM
Im back again, sorry about the absence, beyond my control.
QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1

Laugh [(-D]

I am still leaning towards the CAC Sabre, but I just found out tonight that the F4 Phantom was part of the Aussie airforce for around 6 months or so, some sort of political stuff up or something.
I heard this second hand, so maybe some of the recent retirees may be able to correct me.Wink [;)]South AussieWink [;)]

Decisions decisions!!!!!


Tweety. The Americans leased us 24 F4 Phantoms , (Confused [%-)]I think not quite sure of the the number, could have been 12, long time agoConfused [%-)]) to cover the delays in supplying the F - 111 we had ordered to replace the Canberras. They were based at Amberly in QLD and were given RAAF markings and serial no,s( Ashamed [*^_^*]again can't remember the A serial givenAshamed [*^_^*]). We had them in service for more than six months (Whistling [:-^]teach us to buy aircraft of the drawing boardWhistling [:-^]) When we finally received the F- 111 the Americans offered us a chance to buy the Phantoms at basement bargin prices, which was turned down.
Wayne I enjoy getting older, especially when I consider the alternative.
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  • From: South Australia
Posted by South Aussie on Friday, May 7, 2004 12:29 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by luke

ok lads - it's time to get serious about this Aussie Grp Bld. Most of you guys have seen other dudes with "Group Build Badges/Logos" that they attach to their signature that assoicates their participation in various group builds. Examples (for those who dont know what I'm talking about) are:



Since my arm is still in a sling and I cant do any models yet, I have taken the liberty of designing our own logo. Here it is:



Please note that this is NOT the final logo!!!! I would like all of us to agree if they want this one, something like this or another logo. I want a picture that covers all Australian subjects from all eras, and I thought the "Australian Made" logo was best seeing only Aussies & adopted Aussies can particapte - and I think it stands out pretty well against the others Big Smile [:D].

I've toyed with ideas such as:
1 - the aussie flag embedded within a shoulette of the Aust Continent.
2 - the aussie defence force red-roo logo
3 - flying aussie flags.

Please state your opinion if you like the one above, or you can nominate another. If you would like something but cant design it, I'm pretty good with computer design graphics and can surely help.

What do ya boys think?

ps - I've uploaded these pics in a "temporary" file from a bloke called RonUSMC (@ FSM who allows pic posting) - these pics will disappear (when - I dont know?) when he allocates them a certain file, and therefor changes the web directory. So if they disappear, I'll find them again and repost with their new directory address. So plz be patient if this happens sooner than we expect!


Luke,
Have no problem with your design, was thinking that a group build badge would be a good idea but Banged Head [banghead]my limited computer skillsBanged Head [banghead] stopped me in my tracks. Quite happy to let you run with this.
Wayne I enjoy getting older, especially when I consider the alternative.
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Posted by South Aussie on Friday, May 7, 2004 12:42 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Bob Raymount

Hello again fellow Aussie modellers.

I put up a post in the airbrush/painting section but got no response so I thought I would try here.

I am currently using Tamiya spray can primer for my aircraft - but at $10.00 a can they are getting a bit expensive. Can anyone recommend a good primer that is cheaper and in a larger can and is readily available in Oz?

Thanks for your help.
Regards, Bob


Bob, I've got to agree with you about the cost, the alternative I use is Humbrol No1, this primer is supplied the same in way as their normal paints, I usually air brush it on although it can be hand painted on.

As for the use of a Primer it does help the paint adhere to the models better especially if you have metal or resin parts.
Wayne I enjoy getting older, especially when I consider the alternative.
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Posted by South Aussie on Friday, May 7, 2004 12:47 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Lobbie

Hi Folks'

I'll add my details also, name's Rob, another Victorian, living in Melb. Lee Tree been awhile since we've spoken.

Rob.


Sign - Welcome [#welcome]Sign - Welcome [#welcome] Rob to the FSM forums and our mad bunch of Aussie Modellers that run around here.
Wayne I enjoy getting older, especially when I consider the alternative.
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Posted by South Aussie on Friday, May 7, 2004 12:56 AM
Now that I have caught up with the posts that have been posted since my last visit, an update on the group build, still haven't heard back for David(maybee the original email went astray, so sometime over this weekend I'll set up the group build thread, post it on the board, then try again to make it a sticky.

Must argee with some that the lastest Modelart mag was not that interesting.


Wayne I enjoy getting older, especially when I consider the alternative.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 7, 2004 2:12 AM
Re ModelArt
Thanks for the info that's saved me six fifty!
Dai
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Posted by luke on Friday, May 7, 2004 2:33 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by South Aussie

Now that I have caught up with the posts that have been posted since my last visit, an update on the group build, still haven't heard back for David(maybee the original email went astray, so sometime over this weekend I'll set up the group build thread, post it on the board, then try again to make it a sticky.


welcome back champ Smile [:)]!

look - davo has been posting admin notices and otha random stuff all the wat through; so I would give the 'sticky separate post' a miss.
Lets use this thread for our group build and just continue with it. The thread title is pretty catchy and it states exactly whats goin on. Lets make this post the most read/viewed & replied post there is! Let's set a record for the rest of FSM forum modellers!
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Posted by nicholma on Friday, May 7, 2004 5:10 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by luke
.....Lets use this thread for our group build and just continue with it. ....


I agree. I'm well into the build already and if I wait too long it will be finished and I'll have to do another, maybe I will anyway.
Kia ora, Mark "Time flies like the wind, fruit flies like bananas"
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 7, 2004 5:29 AM
Big Smile [:D]Welcome back South Aussie ive been wondering were you went.Big Smile [:D]




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  • From: Alice Springs Australia
Posted by tweety1 on Friday, May 7, 2004 9:57 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison

Lobbie i just left you a post in the welcome introduce yourself thread telling you about this little corner of Oz but i see you have found us already.If you are interested South Aussie organised an all Aussie group build with an Oct finish.

Thanks Bob will try Woolworths,just one Question ok 2, do you use it instead of gloss clear or just for dipping canopies, and if you airbrush it do you thin it.

tweety1now your trying to confuse me OOB im guessing that means out of box,maybe just add some PE seat belts thats all i do on good kits like Tamiya or Hasegawa oh and some fuse wire brake lines on the struts.Just out of curiosity does anyone make the cac sabre because they were differant from the F86 in engine and guns. I wouldnt mind making a 76th sqd sabre "black panthers" but the NMF worries me a little never done it before.
CHEERS J.S.


Smile [:)]j.s., me confuse you, I would never do such a thingWink [;)]Big Smile [:D]

Yes, OOB means just that, out of boxApprove [^]

And yes, making the Sabre is all about the difference between it and the F-86.
Better engine was it's largest assest.
The F-86 was a fine craft, but compared to the CAC version, it was as slow as a slug.

As for NMF, its not as hard as they make it out to be, in my opinion.
All depends on what type you choose.
I prefer the Alclad II system, and the hardest part about this was sanding the gloss black coat shiny smooth, in prep for the final coat.
My P-38 looks beautiful.Big Smile [:D]
--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???
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Posted by tweety1 on Friday, May 7, 2004 10:03 AM
Welcome back South AussieBig Smile [:D]

And thanks for the Phantom info.

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 7, 2004 2:55 PM
G'day Folk's,

Add my entry to the group build, it's the 48 scale aircraft, of the 'Lone Aussie Hurricane' my subject is my second model which is in the 4th scheme of it's service life being Bare Metal / Aluminium Dope. Strange history relates to this aircraft, it's still here in Victoria.

On the Aussie Phantom's, we had 24 on lease from Sept 1970 to Sept 1973, they were part of 82 wing and served with both 1 and 6 Sqn's, they were to have the prefix 'A69' but they retained their USAF serial number's, 69-0304/0307,7201-7217,7219/7220.7234 all the RAAF did was add in white the last 2 digits of the US serial. eg 90305 was simply 05. The cammo was the SEA scheme of the time.

Glad to be of help.
Rob
aka Lobbie
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 7, 2004 5:12 PM
G'day Folks.

I have several colour plates of the CA-12 / 13 Boomerang here is the complete list that I have:

A45-29 2 OTU Mildura
A46-35 5 Sqn BF-B
A46-56 84 Sqn LB-Q
A46-57 5 Sqn BF-K
A46-65 84 Sqn LB-P
A46-121 4 Sqn QE-N 'Olga' Overall Foliage Green
A46-238 5 Sqn BF-M Overall Foliage Green / White Tail [CA-19 Boomerang II]
A46-128 5 Sqn BF-N 'U-Beaut-2
A46-167 85 Sqn Z
A46--144 83 Sqn MH-X
A46-95 8 Comm. unit ZA-O
A46-228 5 Sqn BF-R Overall Foliage Green / White Tail
A46-137 4 Sqn QE-Z 3 Tone cammo / White Tail
A46-174 4 Sqn QE-Y as above

There was a decal sheet for the Boomerang done by PD Decals [sadly closed down], but Victorian Hobby Centre do have these sheets in both scales, they can be contacted by phone on 03 9650 4817 or by fax 03 9650 1025, 7 days a week after 10.00 AM or by email at vichobbycentre@pigpond.com.au
Wayne is the best to ask for, Mon - Fri and odd Sunday's. They do mail order with anything you may need.

Hope this helps.
Rob
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Posted by South Aussie on Saturday, May 8, 2004 4:28 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Lobbie

G'day Folk's,

On the Aussie Phantom's, we had 24 on lease from Sept 1970 to Sept 1973, they were part of 82 wing and served with both 1 and 6 Sqn's, they were to have the prefix 'A69' but they retained their USAF serial number's, 69-0304/0307,7201-7217,7219/7220.7234 all the RAAF did was add in white the last 2 digits of the US serial. eg 90305 was simply 05. The cammo was the SEA scheme of the time.

Glad to be of help.
Rob
aka Lobbie


Thanks for filling in the gaps Lobbie on the Phatom's, my major recollection of the Phatom's was when one dropped out of sky above me without noise, then hit full afterburner and climbed back to the sky from were it came from, why does still remain in my mind after all this time, well I was working up an antenna tower in the middle of the airfield at RAAF Laverton at the time which virbated in tune with his afterburners.

QUOTE: look - davo has been posting admin notices and otha random stuff all the wat through; so I would give the 'sticky separate post' a miss.
Lets use this thread for our group build and just continue with it. The thread title is pretty catchy and it states exactly whats goin on. Lets make this post the most read/viewed & replied post there is! Let's set a record for the rest of FSM forum modellers!


If no one has any objections with Lukes comments on using this thread for the group build also - so let it be and lets get going.

I'll repost the rules again so we dont have to go searching for them.
Wayne I enjoy getting older, especially when I consider the alternative.
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Posted by tweety1 on Saturday, May 8, 2004 7:02 AM
Hey Lobbie, does the Vic Hobby Centre have a website, or a catalogue from which to order???


And thanks for the Phantom infoSmile [:)]

Don't s'pose you have anything for a CAC Sabre in your bag of tricks???
--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 8, 2004 9:00 AM
Cool [8D]Tweety1 thanks for the tip mate will look into Alclad 11,Cool [8D]ive got a plate of a cac Sabre from 76 sqd [Black Panthers]which id love to do,can you make an Avon Sabre oob or do you have to kitbash an f86.
Big Smile [:D]Oh yeah BLACK UDERCOAT that confuses me a littleBig Smile [:D]

Lobbie is your hurricane V-7476 The plate i have shows it in foliage green over light blue operated by Nos 2 and 3 communications flights.

Heres another interesting RAAF subject for you fellas to think about.
Dornier Do 24 Flying boat DQG alias A49-4 serving with no 41 sqd 1942-43.

Disapprove [V]Guys ive decided to pull my Camel out of the GB it looks decidedly BritishDisapprove [V]
I will stick with Gibbes Spit9 of 457 sqd and maybe a 75 sqd Mirage 111 on the side.Or maybe that Dornier you see Tweety now ive confused myself.

[PS] will still post a pic of R A Litlles Camel when i finish it.
J.S.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 8, 2004 9:30 AM
South Aussie i dont think i could forget a Phantom doing that above me either i get exited when i see an F111 flying over the house.
Come to think of it During last years riverfire festival here in Bris i was sitting at home watching the festival on TV when one roared over our house at low level 10 seconds later i watched the same F111 perform its dump and burn over the city on TV.
20 Ks in 10 sec i think he might have been speeding a little.
J.S.
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  • From: Alice Springs Australia
Posted by tweety1 on Saturday, May 8, 2004 10:40 AM
The Avon Sabre is made buy High Planes models, and goes for around $50 Aussie.
Basically it's the same as the conversion kit they made for the Academy F-86, but that one was a mongrel to do, so they boxed it all up and sell it as one package.

From what I hear, it's a touch scruffy mould wise, but otherwise ok.
Guess I'll find out if it ever gets hereConfused [%-)]

As for the Black Undercoat, the Alclad system runs in 3 stages.
Grey primer coat first, then 24-48 hours drying time, then a light sand with fine paper.
Then black undercoat, 24-48 hours drying time, nice smooth sanding with ultra fine paper. You want it to be silky and shiny smooth otherwise it ruins the final coat.
Lastly, your BMF of your choice.

If you live in humid conditions, extned the drying time by a few days, otherwise the BMF will crack as it dries, and look really shabby.

The Sabre was finished in an Aluminium tone, was it not??
Cause it wasn't all that shiny, so I figure a general aluminium coat would do it.


--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???
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  • From: Brisbane Australia
Posted by ChrisJH666 on Saturday, May 8, 2004 2:52 PM
Lobbie

Thats a great selection of Boomerang pics. Love to see the 5 Sqn ones! In fact, love to see ALL of them!!! Big Smile [:D]

In the queue: 1/48 Beech Staggerwing (RAAF), P38 (RAAF), Vultee Vengeance (RAAF), Spitfire Vb (Malta), Spitfire VIII x2 (RAAF), P39 x2 (RAAF), Martin Baltimore (Malta?), Martin Maryland (Malta), Typhoon NF1b, Hellcat x2 (FAA)

 

Chris

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