Gun models, real or imagined?

ROFL!! Another thread rises from the dead... Run for your lives!!!!

They are out there but you'll pay half of what a real one costs. Here's a live auction for one now--- http://www.ebay.com/itm/LS-1-1-Colt-45-Government-Model-Super-Scale-Pistol-Plastic-Model-Kit-P1001-1000-/141535272697?hash=item20f428def9

I'd never pay that for one. Every now and then you can get lucky and get a good price. By the way, it was LS, not LHS. , John

[quote user="DiscoStu"]Hey all. Many, many years ago when I was new to modelling I remember an aisle in my LHS that had some 1/1 (Or what I thought were 1/1) scale models of various pistols and firearms. I even remember building a .357 and Japanese Nambu much to the dismay of my mother. The kits had all the springs and levers to make a functional representation of a real gun in plastic. Shoot, the Nambu even had bullets that would fire, or rather impotently dribble out of the barrel when the trigger was pulled. I have since never seen them again. I imagine they were no longer allowed to be manufactured, for pretty obvious reasons. But they seemed to have vanished from the face of the earth. Nothing on E-bay and nothing in a Google search. Now I know college did a number on what functional brain cells I had, but does anyone remember these kits? When the clouds do ease up enough for a clear picture, I want to say the manufacturer may have been Academy or Minicraft.....

[Manufacturers name was Life Scale and they produced many different gun models back in the late 70s.

Guys,

I hate have to resort to this, but here goes:

This is the last warning. The offending posts have been deleted or edited. No more commentary about using guns, gun violence, amendments to the U.S. Constitution, police not getting it, or anything else political. WHEN WE SAY NO POLITICS ON THE FORUM, WE MEAN NO POLITICS ON THE FORUM. Discuss your political views elsewhere. This thread is about scale model replicas (and toy replicas by extension) of firearms. Collecting and building if you got'em.

We've been asked to treat members like the adults we all claim to be. Let's stick to the rules. 

If Aaron or I have to come in and tamp this sucker down again, we'll remove it. 

Tim

Gentlemen,

Let's get this back on topic. Passions run high around Amendment II and the subject of firearms in general. If you want to discuss the merits, please do so via PMs or better yet, exchange email addresses or phone numbers. Let's keep the politics and the nasty-grams off the forum.

Thanks,

Tim

Can the old PYRO rifle kits, ie;  flintlock, Bavarian rifle, Moorish rifle and Winchester be considered difficult to build for younger ( pre-teen ) modelers?

When I was about 10 - 12, I had built a full size plastic model of a Kentucky Flintlock rifle, and also a full size flintlock pistol.  I remember that the pistol turned out ok, but the barrel on the rifle was NOT straight - it was in 3 sections (IIRC), so it went in 3 different directions.  But, it was still fun to use playing "The Alamo" and other games that required muzzle loading firearms!

Later on I lived and worked in Japan for 6 years, and remember the first time I saw the replica firearms in a TOY store!  I had to look closely to tell that they were not the real deal.  I also bought and built a 1911 Commander model that functioned like the real thing, and had weights in it to feel like the real thing in my hand.  At the time we returned to the USA, they had already instituted the rule that toy guns had to have the orange barrel, so I wasn't allowed to bring it back with me :(

i think i build a 1-1 winchester lever action that somewhat functional. didn't weight it so it never fely real.

i have a 45 flintlock pitol kit in the stash (real firing replica kit).

HI :

 It seems I remember many that I built ,way back then . There was , and because of the subject , I will mention it here .There was a manufacturer of the good old "capgun" here in TEXAS , the name was NICHOLS . Now what makes them special was the product line . There was of course the "COLT -45 calibre "PEACEMAKER " of which I had a matched pair .

    They did a WINCHESTER model 74 rifle and quite a few more .The unique thing was the way you loaded the caps . The gun broke open like the real one for cleaning too ! When you loaded it , you opened the rear hatch (at the rear of the cylinder) and dropped out the bullets by spinning the cylinder.

      Then you took the "bullets" pulled them apart and loaded a little round cap in the shell casing . Put them all back together ,re-load and then play "COWBOYS and INDIANS " again .Thing is , All their products were " life sized "and emulated the real thing.  You didn't take a "six - shooter" and fire it seventeen or eighteen times,like they always did in the movies .They were high quality toys , and if you took care of them , as you got older , you could hang them on the wall for display .

Model guns are neat and if you like them ,  the truth is L.S. does make some of the best available (The ONLY ones available ?? )      Tanker-builder

WallyM3

Top and solo P38s are fakes, revolver (made to represent an N-frame Smith & Wesson) is also a fake (no model designation in crane well). Don't know about the BP models.

Out of curiosity, does anyone know if a Collector's Armory ( zinc metal and wood  ) black powder replica has ever been used in the commision of a crime? 

Top and solo P38s are fakes, revolver (made to represent an N-frame Smith & Wesson) is also a fake (no model designation in crane well). Don't know about the BP models.

Here are some. Tell me which p-38 is the model. Or which black powder revolver is real. This is why these kits were discontinued.

The zinc replicas available in the USA until the 1980s were designed to break down and chamber solid brass cartridges

The descriptions of replicas available on-line no longer state that the firearm replicas disassemble like the original firearms.

I have been told many replicas are now simply solid, cast blocks of zinc / pot metal and are poor quality.

The gun kits that you have are thinking of were made by a Japanese company called "LS" and were 1:1 scale. They have not been available for some time, at least in the U.K. where restrictions on firearms and replica guns, metal or plastic, have become prohibitive in recent years.

There was another Japanese maker of film props called "Marushin" that made excellent replica firearms in plastic and metal, but again they have not been easily available for some time.

Ebay has several Pyro and Pyro licenced gun kits listed at present , notably Colt .36 Navy types but these were very poor kits in their hayday and are vastly overpriced now at $150.00 U.S. particularly as there are a number of U.S. companies offerinf superb non firing metal replicas of modern and 19th century handguns for little more than half that price. 

krow113

Cool Sprue ! Thanks- I look for these all the time ,I have the Blunderbus ,got for 10$ off ebay They are worth the effort as you can see. And as stated they can be made to work ,that is to say the trigger is pulled and the flint travels down and strikes!

I also added a steel rod for balance and weight ,do one of these and take it to an IPMS meeting and watch the crowd gather!

the plastic gun kits do appear to still generate interest.

Even though USA law requires a red tip on Airsoft & other replicas , it would be nice if the old LS kits were re-issued even if the barrel tips were now bright red.

Cool Sprue ! Thanks- I look for these all the time ,I have the Blunderbus ,got for 10$ off ebay They are worth the effort as you can see. And as stated they can be made to work ,that is to say the trigger is pulled and the flint travels down and strikes!

I also added a steel rod for balance and weight ,do one of these and take it to an IPMS meeting and watch the crowd gather!

krow113

I have seen the 1-1 guns on ebay, they are rare and go quickly. I like the Lindberg Pirate Pistol series ,they are cheap and fun to work with.They can be made to operate with a series of elastic bands inside,as Lindberg supplies the inner workings as well. Here is my take on one , with gold/silver leaf ,I began by painting it bright red!

 

Very Nice !

I purchased that Lindberg kit recently on sale for $5.

Unfortunately, my LHS sold the rest of the series or I would have purchased them.

You certainly made a very basic  ex-Pyro Dutch pistol kit look good.

I especially like the effect on the "wood stock" .

I have seen the 1-1 guns on ebay, they are rare and go quickly. I like the Lindberg Pirate Pistol series ,they are cheap and fun to work with.They can be made to operate with a series of elastic bands inside,as Lindberg supplies the inner workings as well. Here is my take on one , with gold/silver leaf ,I began by painting it bright red!

Sprue-ce Goose

Massachusetts ???  Maybe you can call an informational  beer summit ?

I've got the room...

...BYOB!

Manny would probably feel right at home in 'Das Bunker'. The neighbors are far enough away if he were to show up in full uniform although under cover of darkness would be best.

As far as how many $229 kits I could buy if I could sell this LS kit goes... Well, I don't think that there are that many mortar kits remaining.

minimortar

 

Sprue-ce Goose:

 

LS 1:1 Scale XM-177 

 

 

Humm... I have this kit in unbuilt form in my stash. I'd love to unload it as I do believe that in assembled form, it is illegal to have in the People's Republic of Massachusetts (or so I was once told) even though I am fully licensed to carry large capacity (but not full-auto) firearms.

...and think of how many $229.00 kits you can buy when selling that LS kit to the right buyer.....

minimortar

 

Sprue-ce Goose:

 

LS 1:1 Scale XM-177 

 

 

Humm... I have this kit in unbuilt form in my stash. I'd love to unload it as I do believe that in assembled form, it is illegal to have in the People's Republic of Massachusetts (or so I was once told) even though I am fully licensed to carry large capacity (but not full-auto) firearms.

LS also made various 1/1 scale hand grenades.

Massachusetts ???  Maybe you can call an informational  beer summit ?

" LS also made various 1/1 scale hand grenades."

Yep!

LS made 'em and they're probably illegal most places now, as well.

One note for Manny;

Beware: The LS model kits of the iconic German WW2 " Potato masher " concussion grenade don't do a very good job of mashing potatoes.....

Sprue-ce Goose

LS 1:1 Scale XM-177 

 

Humm... I have this kit in unbuilt form in my stash. I'd love to unload it as I do believe that in assembled form, it is illegal to have in the People's Republic of Massachusetts (or so I was once told) even though I am fully licensed to carry large capacity (but not full-auto) firearms.

LS also made various 1/1 scale hand grenades.

Thank you, all. I'll give it a try.

I'm glad you like

Hi, Wally.

I use the option "Insert media", and then i put the link to the picture, from Flickr in my case. Also you can insert a new link to redirect on other site, using the "insert/edit link" after slecting the image.


Best regards.

No need to shoot one's mouth off, here.......

WallyM3

Yeah, I thought I recognized some of the inmates from my last stretch.

Hey now, those charges were dropped!

Copy the IMG code and paste to the message board.

                                                                                Pat.

OK.

So, how do you post pics from PB?