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First Annual Berny Memorial Group Build

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, January 12, 2012 5:31 PM

Gamera,

I am sure Berny would be very happy with your selection.  When we were at the U.S. National Air Force Museum, we spent a good deal of time in the WWII exhibits.  So I am sure he would approve!

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, January 12, 2012 5:33 PM

Bockscar

Hey Ken:

Count me in: I have a 1/32 Revell F-4P (P for putty) , or is that F-4RP (RP for Rhino-Plasty).

Berny had a laugh kidding me about all of the putty, and made some great suggestions, and he tricked me into building intakes and J-79s from scratch, so it belongs here.

If I can find the guts to trim down the intake ducts there is hope I will finish it this year.

 

Hi Dom!

Very happy that you are here!  I know Berny is happy too!  Now I know we are going to have some fun!

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, January 12, 2012 7:41 PM

Following Rich's lead, I may have to try and replicate Too-Sick-Oh.

I heard a rumour it brought down two MIGs.

I hope Rich signs on.......

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Posted by SuperB60ce on Thursday, January 12, 2012 8:51 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

 SuperB60ce:

Well, I am already working on this F-4 for the 2012 Rhino build, but can enter it here as well.  My Father was a Phantom Backseater, and was assigned with Bernie in Udorn...this was one of the squdron aircraft.

Scalecraft/ESCI 1:48 F-4E (w/AM parts & decals as F-4E-38-MC 67-362 "Paula 01" 58th TFS Gorillas, Udorn '72)

 

Hi SuperB60ce,

Great to have you on board.  Is your Dad still with us?

Ken

Yes, He is still with us.  He retired from the USAF in 89 and now resides in SC.  Back in Nov, he said he had found decals for 67-362, and I had just found decals for the Lakenheath birds, can you believe he asked if I would have them done by Christmas....lol

SFC Buck (RET)

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, January 12, 2012 9:40 PM

Ken,

Thanks!

Cliff

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by TD4438 on Thursday, January 12, 2012 9:46 PM

West Germany flew the F-4,correct?

I have an idea for a custom paint scheme.

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, January 13, 2012 6:20 PM

Bockscar

Following Rich's lead, I may have to try and replicate Too-Sick-Oh.

I heard a rumour it brought down two MIGs.

I hope Rich signs on.......

Yes, it would be nice if Rich can make it.

Ken

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, January 13, 2012 6:26 PM

SuperB60ce

 Son Of Medicine Man:

 SuperB60ce:

Well, I am already working on this F-4 for the 2012 Rhino build, but can enter it here as well.  My Father was a Phantom Backseater, and was assigned with Bernie in Udorn...this was one of the squdron aircraft.

Scalecraft/ESCI 1:48 F-4E (w/AM parts & decals as F-4E-38-MC 67-362 "Paula 01" 58th TFS Gorillas, Udorn '72)

 

Hi SuperB60ce,

Great to have you on board.  Is your Dad still with us?

Ken

 

Yes, He is still with us.  He retired from the USAF in 89 and now resides in SC.  Back in Nov, he said he had found decals for 67-362, and I had just found decals for the Lakenheath birds, can you believe he asked if I would have them done by Christmas....lol

Very cool!  It is nice to have access to someone who can give some first hand knowledge on aircraft used during the Vietnam War.  As you may have guessed, it is my favorite era of aircraft to model.

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, January 13, 2012 6:34 PM

TD4438

West Germany flew the F-4,correct?

I have an idea for a custom paint scheme.

Yes, that is most certainly correct.  In fact, if you are willing to wade through the pages in the "The Official F-4 Phantom II Group Build 2011" over in the Group Builds, you will find quite a few interesting facts about the F-4F, which is the designation for the F-4 used by the West Germans.  They in fact had some quite interesting paint schemes!

Ken

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Posted by jimbot58 on Saturday, January 14, 2012 2:42 AM

Son Of Medicine Man

 

 TD4438:

 

West Germany flew the F-4,correct?

I have an idea for a custom paint scheme.

 

 

Yes, that is most certainly correct.  In fact, if you are willing to wade through the pages in the "The Official F-4 Phantom II Group Build 2011" over in the Group Builds, you will find quite a few interesting facts about the F-4F, which is the designation for the F-4 used by the West Germans.  They in fact had some quite interesting paint schemes!

Ken

Indeed! I ran across this old post where Berny helped another member with questions about the F-4F who happened to be doing a very interesting custom paint scheme:

/forums/p/126422/1271354.aspx

I would have liked to do this one myself if I didn't already have too much going on.

 

Hey Ken, I guess go ahead and pencil me in with my F-105G, I'll make up my mind for sure if I can get my own F-4F wrapped up and get going on my entry for the Rhinomania III Group Build.

*******

On my workbench now:

It's all about classic cars now!

Why can't I find the "Any" key on my keyboard?

 

 

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:51 AM

Hi Jim,

That is great!  I am glad that you are here.

Ken

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, January 14, 2012 8:10 PM

If I may point out:

Syhart Decals

They're a French company so they have mostly Mirages but a couple of really sharp airshow Phantoms.I haven't bought or used any of their decals but they look really cool.

 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Saturday, January 14, 2012 8:21 PM

Very colorful decals Cliff!

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Saturday, January 14, 2012 8:49 PM

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Posted by Bockscar on Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:19 PM

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Posted by Bockscar on Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:21 PM

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Posted by jimbot58 on Sunday, January 15, 2012 2:34 AM

Gamera

If I may point out:

Syhart Decals

They're a French company so they have mostly Mirages but a couple of really sharp airshow Phantoms.I haven't bought or used any of their decals but they look really cool.

 

Interesting schemes, but I would be afraid of the costs shipping from France!

*******

On my workbench now:

It's all about classic cars now!

Why can't I find the "Any" key on my keyboard?

 

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, January 15, 2012 9:51 PM

Bockscar

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/berny13/DAD-1.jpg

Awesome photo of Berny Yes

Jim: Yeah, I keep looking at them but never get around to placing an order...

 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Monday, January 16, 2012 6:12 PM

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Re: The Official F-4 Phantom II Group Build 2011
berny13 replied on 04-10-2011 8:31 AM Reply More

Bocks, HOLLY #^%* BATMAN, does the problem extend that far back on the nose section or just the radome?  Now you have me wondering.  I'll have to go check my Revell kit to see if if the nose section is off. 

If it is just the radome than plastic stock should work on getting the correct shape.  You have more dedication than I have.  I would have given up a long time ago. 

I haven't done much work on my build the last couple of days.  Yard work has a higher priority right now or I will have a jungle to clear if I don't keep up with it.

I did find out the AM ejection seats will not fit the AM cockpit from Black Box (AKA Combat Series).  They are too wide and I would have to sand down the sides to get them to fit.  That would destroy a lot of detail if I did that.  I don't like the set that came with the cockpit set because it has the seat belts and shoulder harness molded in to the seats and they are all wrong.  I would destroy too much of the detail if I shaved them off and went with AM belts.  I am going to use the kit supplied seats and detail them.  At least they will fit the resin tub. 

Berny

 Phormer Phantom Phixer

On the bench

TF-102A Delta Dagger, 32nd FIS, 54-1370, 1/48 scale. Monogram Pro Modeler with C&H conversion.  

Revell F-4E Phantom II 33rd TFW, 58th TFS, 69-260, 1/32 scale. 

Tamiya F-4D Phantom II, 13th TFS, 66-8711, 1/32 scale.  F-4 Phantom Group Build. 

 

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Monday, January 16, 2012 6:15 PM

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RE:The Official F-4 Phantom II Group Build 2011
berny13 replied on 04-14-2011 8:39 AM Reply More

Good looking cockpit Ken.  Just enough wash to make it look well used. 

Berny

 Phormer Phantom Phixer

On the bench

TF-102A Delta Dagger, 32nd FIS, 54-1370, 1/48 scale. Monogram Pro Modeler with C&H conversion.  

Revell F-4E Phantom II 33rd TFW, 58th TFS, 69-260, 1/32 scale. 

Tamiya F-4D Phantom II, 13th TFS, 66-8711, 1/32 scale.  F-4 Phantom Group Build. 

 

 

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RE:The Official F-4 Phantom II Group Build 2011
berny13 replied on 04-14-2011 8:43 AM Reply More

Rich, it shouldn't be too hard to get the intakes to fit.  If all else fails you can do like Bocks and build the completed intake assembly out of putty and plastic.  Wink

Berny

 Phormer Phantom Phixer

On the bench

TF-102A Delta Dagger, 32nd FIS, 54-1370, 1/48 scale. Monogram Pro Modeler with C&H conversion.  

Revell F-4E Phantom II 33rd TFW, 58th TFS, 69-260, 1/32 scale. 

Tamiya F-4D Phantom II, 13th TFS, 66-8711, 1/32 scale.  F-4 Phantom Group Build. 

 

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Monday, January 16, 2012 6:21 PM

Sorry for the lousy looking cut n' paste guys, the previews looked good.

Just a taste of Berny's humor and generosity.

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 8:04 PM

Greetings fellow modelers!

I thought I would share this since it reminded me of Berny.  Sunday evening I won an auction on eBay.  It was the Revell 1/32 scale of the RF-4C kit number 4662.  Typically I would have asked Berny what I needed to do to the kit knowing that he would know the answer without a second thought.  It is going to take some time to get used to the idea that he is not here to ask those types of questions any more.

I did however find a very informative document by Ben Brown & Thierry Laurent that gives very detailed modifications required.  Here is a link:

http://www.largescaleplanes.com/Marketplace/Tweaks/RF-4C.pdf 

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 9:00 PM

Hey Ken:

MIne was the 1/32 Revell RF-4E kit# 4754.

It would be interesting to know if yours is the new tooling or the old kit like mine.

I checked out a build of the original like mine, and there must have been some problem with it.

The fuselage around the forward missile bays on mine is 5/32 too narrow, other kits it looks fine.

Please send a picture(s) of the main components of your kit if you get the time and inclination.

Thanks

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 9:31 PM

Bockscar

Hey Ken:

MIne was the 1/32 Revell RF-4E kit# 4754.

It would be interesting to know if yours is the new tooling or the old kit like mine.

I checked out a build of the original like mine, and there must have been some problem with it.

The fuselage around the forward missile bays on mine is 5/32 too narrow, other kits it looks fine.

Please send a picture(s) of the main components of your kit if you get the time and inclination.

Thanks

Hi Dom,

From what I understand the kit I purchased is the new tooling.  I will be more than happy to post pictures when it arrives.

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 6:56 PM

Thanks Ken;

I have an opened Revell 1/32 with new tooling, and the old kit's RF nose section,

I'm wondering how close that would be to a build.

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:20 PM

Good evening fellow modelers,

I realized that I haven't announced what I will be starting off with on this build.  I will be continuing with the model I was building when Berny passed away.  Berny was in the same group build that a few others that are joining this one was in when he passed.  I just could not get back to the bench after that.  But now, with the renewed spirit of you who have joined this one, I feel I can get back to it.

The model I am building is the 1/48 scale F-4E 69-260 as it flew in Vietnam when Berny was a crew chief for her.  There is a nice story behind this bird that I will share once the build starts.  The kit I will be using is the Hasegawa F-4EJ Phantom II P2.  The reason I am using this kit is because it has the "hard" wings (non slatted) which almost all F-4Es used in Vietnam. Also it does not have that darn U.S. Navy lump on the top side of each wing that would need to be removed on all other 1/48 Hasegawa kits.

I will be also using a countless number of after market parts and will list them as I come to them.  I do have the Aires cockpit almost completed already and will post pictures when the build starts.

Ken

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Posted by SuperB60ce on Friday, January 20, 2012 8:11 AM

Well, that's two birds from the 58th TFS.  I have un-earthed some great photos of 362 the day of the double mig kill, let me know if you want them, could be some good reference material for you.

SFC Buck (RET)

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, January 20, 2012 8:43 AM

SuperB60ce

Well, that's two birds from the 58th TFS.  I have un-earthed some great photos of 362 the day of the double mig kill, let me know if you want them, could be some good reference material for you.

That would be fantastic!

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, January 20, 2012 8:48 AM

Ken,

Sounds like a really nice model. I'm looking forward to the story behind her. Sadly I didn't really get to know Berny very well. I just read his comments and he helped me with a few questions I had on my Phantom back in the first F-4 GB. He was always helpful and had something nice to say about everyone's work. Great guy all around.

Cliff

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by SuperB60ce on Friday, January 20, 2012 11:22 AM

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