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Posted by Bish on Sunday, June 21, 2015 2:26 PM

waynec

all the talk here seems to be "targets"Big Smile would ground units be allowed? i have a bunch of warwheels.

Ye, there is a lot of aircraft. I am starting to lean more towards the chally myself. Stik did say land sea or air further down the front page.

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On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, June 21, 2015 3:19 PM

Wayne, definitely ground stuff, including war wheels- soft skinned or armored. This was the largest clash of armor since WWII. It was the swan song for some weapons systems, and the baptism of fire for others. And some of those overlapped. But yes, land, sea, and air subjects from 1990/1991 in the KTO. Which pretty much stretched from the Mediterranean in the west, Turkey in the north, Iran & the Persian Gulf to the west, and Saudi Arabia & the Red Sea to the south. Equipment of all origins:Soviet, Chinese, French, Brazilian, South African, US, UK, German... So many choices

 

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Posted by waynec on Sunday, June 21, 2015 4:49 PM

STIK i completely forgot about my helo stash but will probably do a wheel. 

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, June 22, 2015 3:27 PM

OK so far tentatively we have:

myself

GMorrison

DevilDawg

Greg

jelliot523

Bish

castelnuovo

B_one fixer

Nathan T

waynec

gobobbie (maybe?)

So 10 plus possibly one more so far. It sounds like a go to me.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by jelliott523 on Monday, June 22, 2015 3:28 PM

Lets Do It!!!  I've got a couple of F-15E's that I'm going to use as my entries!

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Posted by Bish on Monday, June 22, 2015 3:35 PM

Good, that means I can order that Challenger then. Are you planning to use the start and end dates of the campaign for the GB dates.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Bish on Monday, June 22, 2015 3:45 PM

Stik, if I might make a comment here. I know this is being a bit picky, but the name's Desert Shield and Desert Storm are the American operational names for the conflict. The UK called it Op Granby and the French, Italians and Canadians all had there own. I know its often referred to by the US names, but could I be so bold as to suggest one of the other names often given for this war, one that might encompass all the nations which took part.

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, June 22, 2015 3:51 PM

Like we did for the Falklands/ Malvinas GB.

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, June 22, 2015 3:53 PM

Oh, I've got it, I've got it!

"The Mother of all Battles!".

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by waynec on Monday, June 22, 2015 4:14 PM

Bish

Stik, if I might make a comment here. I know this is being a bit picky, but the name's Desert Shield and Desert Storm are the American operational names for the conflict. The UK called it Op Granby and the French, Italians and Canadians all had there own. I know its often referred to by the US names, but could I be so bold as to suggest one of the other names often given for this war, one that might encompass all the nations which took part.

i would be willing to make multiple nation badges so folks could pick their country (or the country of what they are building). granted this could entail a plethora of badges but my graphics skills need the rust knocked off.

crazy me after looking at the OTS  Toxso SCUD, i pulled out the old DML 1/35 (i have 2). maybe i should actually finish some stuff.Embarrassed

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Posted by waynec on Monday, June 22, 2015 4:17 PM

Greg

Regarding DD's comment, sitting her thinking I was 33 when the operation started? No way. This is really quite shocking.

I was working my first technical illustrator job at Texas Instruments, which made the HARM SAM Suppression missiles.

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, June 22, 2015 4:17 PM

Lol! GM I do love that title, but... Bish, you are very correct and I was thinking more along the lines of "Persian Gulf War 1990/1991". Or perhaps "The Mother of ALL Group Builds"? ;)

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Bish on Monday, June 22, 2015 4:21 PM

Ye, I was thinking along the line of ''First Gulf war'' or something similar, but just wanted to leave that up to you. But I do like that Mother of all GB's idea.

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, June 22, 2015 5:31 PM

Yeah, this is gonna be a good one. It will run August this year until March of next year.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by MJames70 on Monday, June 22, 2015 5:34 PM

All sounds good to me. I think I will be in for something on the cheap here. Maybe AMT/Ertl/Esci 1/72 F-15 Desert Storm MiG Killer boxing. Might check out the local shop in the next few days and cruise other possibilities.

Anyone remember the lineup of Persian Gulf Fighters in 1/72 and 1/48 HobbyCr@p, I mean HobbyCraft did at the time? The one remaining LHS still has some of those awful kits in stock....

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, June 22, 2015 5:51 PM

I remember those kits. I had the 1/48 F-16A kit from that series.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by castelnuovo on Monday, June 22, 2015 5:58 PM

GMorrison

Oh, I've got it, I've got it!

"The Mother of all Battles!".

I guess "Father of all defeats GB" doesn't sound very catchy...Smile

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, June 22, 2015 6:00 PM

Yeah Stick, count me in with an F-14A. Dono which squadron, I'll have to research that.

Steve

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, June 22, 2015 6:27 PM

Well 6 of the 7 carriers from Desert Shield/Desert Storm had Tomcats. USS Midway had Hornets & Intruders, no Cats. Great to see another volunteer ;) I'll get the official thread running next month.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by Devil Dawg on Monday, June 22, 2015 9:13 PM

Bish

Good, that means I can order that Challenger then. Are you planning to use the start and end dates of the campaign for the GB dates.

Aww c'mon, Bish! You really need a valid reason to buy a kit??Propeller Stick out tongue

Devil Dawg

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Posted by Devil Dawg on Monday, June 22, 2015 9:22 PM

stikpusher

Well 6 of the 7 carriers from Desert Shield/Desert Storm had Tomcats. USS Midway had Hornets & Intruders, no Cats. Great to see another volunteer ;) I'll get the official thread running next month.

Don't forget the amphibious assault ships that were there, too, which carried CH-46s, CH-53Ds & CH-53Es, Harrier II Pluses, AH-1Ws, UH-1 Hueys, etc., not to mention the 2,000 combat-ready Marines on each, with all of the transport vehicles to carry them. Ships like the USS Saipan (LHA-2), on which I served, and the USS Wasp & the USS Iwo Jima, to name a few. These ships were basically the size of a WWII flattop (around 850 feet long - no catapults, though, as everything on-board was VTOL-capable), and could mount an entire amphibious assault all by their lonesome. Got to witness this a few times while deployed over there. Definitely a sight to see.

Devil Dawg

On The Bench: Tamiya 1/32nd Mitsubishi A6M5 Model 52 Zeke For Japanese Group Build

Build one at a time? Hah! That'll be the day!!

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Posted by castelnuovo on Monday, June 22, 2015 9:37 PM

I just looked at Sprue Brothers website and, among others, found this one:

http://store.spruebrothers.com/product_p/trp00349.htm

There is no description of any kind re. where did it serve. Anybody knows?

Thanks...

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:11 AM

Those are used in the Light Armored Recon Battalions of the 1st & 2nd Marine Divisions. Supposedly the 82nd Airborne also obtained a few to supplement their M551 Sheridans. The Marine LAV units saw a good amount of action.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:17 AM

I'll go out to the garage this weekend and get the Maid out. It's a fabulous a/c, in particular since there are no good kits of her mother the D/H Comet.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:48 AM

Devil Dawg

Bish

Good, that means I can order that Challenger then. Are you planning to use the start and end dates of the campaign for the GB dates.

Aww c'mon, Bish! You really need a valid reason to buy a kit??Propeller Stick out tongue

Well, if its not German, I at lest have to think about it. Wink Being very picky these days.

Stik, I don't know if this will be useful. Its a wiki page that's lists all the equipment used by both sides in the war. Might be handy for those who are not sure what to build.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Gulf_War_military_equipment

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Posted by silentbob33 on Tuesday, June 23, 2015 8:30 AM

I'm not quite ready to commit as I have a couple more GBs I want to finish before signing up for more, but my brother has been asking me to build him an Abrams. If I can get myself caught up on my other GBs this would be a good chance to build it.

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Posted by Greg on Tuesday, June 23, 2015 9:51 AM

Bish, that's quite a list. Thank you!

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, June 23, 2015 1:05 PM

SB, I do hope that you can join us. The more, the merrier ;)

Bish, that list is a good start. I saw that they left out the pan Arab forces for the most part. And some of the original Kuwaiti equipment such as the Chieftain MBTs, and Saladin armored car.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, June 23, 2015 1:24 PM

Ye, unfortunately Wikipedia isn't all that reliable. But as you say, its a good start and does cover the nations more likely to be built in the GB. But it would be nice to get some of the others as well.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, June 23, 2015 1:33 PM

Yup! Not all inclusive, but a very good starting place. Typical wiki stuff. IIRC, the Saudis & Qataris used primarily French AFVs in the war, the Syrians Soviet stuff, and the Egyptians used older US stuff. The Kuwatis had the remnants of their original British equipment, and later they had Yugoslav made versions of Soviet stuff.

And yes, I do hope that we see more of the lesser seen stuff as part of the GB.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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