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She's out of my league
Posted by Air2AirJoe on Thursday, October 1, 2015 8:21 AM

Last night, on my way home from work, my wife asked me to stop off at a store called Once Upon a Child and pick up some things. As the nice young lady behind the counter was explaining that her order wasn't quite ready, I noticed the lights of Hobby Lobby through the window behind her. Somewhere in the middle of her apology I trailed off and all I heard was "10-15 more minutes, I'm so sorry." I assured her it was no trouble at all and that I'd be back shortly... Out the door, across the parking lot, past the checkout lines all the way to the back of the store, and there she was:

 

On the walk over I remember thinking "I hope they don't have a raptor" because I didn't want to be tempted.  It's my fascination with this particular jet that led me to pick up modeling in the first place... I was heartbroken when I first learned that they only made the F-22 as a single seat aircraft and I'd never get to ride in one.  The only example on public display is in Ohio so it'll be a while if ever before I can see one up close, so in searching for a way to connect with this plane I looked into model building and viola, here I am! I love most modern fighters, F-14, 15s, 16s, 18s, A-10s, and maybe even the new F-35 if they can ever get it doing what they hope it will (but that's a whole other convo). But nothing, and I mean nothing takes my breath away and gives me the chills in a good way like the F-22.  It's deadly beauty reminds me of a gorgeous woman... sexy curves (yes there are curves on an f-22!) give it a figure that drives me wild. She's "smart" with her advanced electronics and sensor fusion. Like the hottest woman ever, that I know I'll never really get close to but I like to fantasize about what it would be like to be with her anyways. I think about the lucky man who has that privilege... oh how high maintenance she must be haha.

I mentioned in my OP that I'd ordered that very kit pictured as my first model.  Thankfully minutes after a placed my order I stumbled on this forum and Patrick advised that I start with 1:48 and skill level 2. As you can see this is 1:72 and skill 3 so I promptly canceled the order and went out and got an A-10 as my first kit, with the intention of revisiting the f-22 once I got some experience under my belt.  So as I'm standing there last night staring at the object of my desire my wife texts and asks how it went at the store she'd sent me to. I explained they weren't ready with her order so I was killing time at Hobby Lobby. Her immediate reaction was "Oh no, what are you buying now?"  I replied with "nothing" and a smiley face.  As much as I wanted that F-22 kit I know I'm not ready. The A-10 I'm building is a complete disaster. I don't have the tools or the experience yet, so I'm going to save that f-22 until I've built all the other modern fighters in 1:48 first. Hopefully by then I'll have the necessary skills, know-how and equipment to really do that right. Plus, what's the rush? I'm just getting started and I have years of this ahead of me, why not save this and have something to look forward to... to aspire to. I like the thought of having all my favorite jets still left to build. If I feverishly buy up everything right away I'll have exhausted all the models I'm most excited about building right away and then what? Sure there's countless other stuff to build but you see my point.  Im so happy to have found this hobby and I want to savor the excitement. I'll get to that F-22 kit someday, but for now she's out of my league and I'm ok with that. 

"Forgive me, I'm clueless"

 

 

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Posted by Eagle90 on Thursday, October 1, 2015 8:32 AM

Now that is will power!  Of which I do not have!  Embarrassed  My stash just got boosted to over 425 after the Modelpalooza show in Orlando!  It's great to hear you are having a wonderful time with the hobby AND have a wife that is supportive!  You won't be using that "out of my league" saying much longer!  You're doing great!

Eagle90

 

 

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Posted by Jay Jay on Thursday, October 1, 2015 8:35 AM

Oh My Gosh that's so hilarious, i surely can relate !   I've heard the "Oh ,no' many times.  TY for this well written post, you should be a magazine writer.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Arved on Thursday, October 1, 2015 9:19 AM

It's a tough choice. In the future, either the kit will no longer be available, or the kit will be superceded by a much better model. Doesn't matter what you model. That's why the hoarders have stashes of kits waiting to be built. The unknown.

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Posted by Air2AirJoe on Thursday, October 1, 2015 9:33 AM

Eagle90

Now that is will power!  Of which I do not have!  Embarrassed  My stash just got boosted to over 425 after the Modelpalooza show in Orlando!  It's great to hear you are having a wonderful time with the hobby AND have a wife that is supportive!  You won't be using that "out of my league" saying much longer!  You're doing great!

Eagle90

Holy smokes, 425?!?!  that'll keep you busy for a while!  Thanks for the words of encouragement, but ive been looking at a lot of other people's finished planes on here and i'm totally blown away by the talent.  You guys are seriously good... esp with the painting/weathering.  It'll be quite a while before im on that level.

Jay Jay,  thanks, it's funny how our wives are all having to deal with the same things :-)  Hey, it's a great hobby and we could be into much worse things!

Arved,  I hadn't considered that... hmmm...  I guess i could pick that kit up and stash it away until im ready.  Not sure i could resist cracking it open though!

I should mention that I'm a very impulsive person when it comes to buying things and last night was a rare display of self-control.  We'll see how long that lasts.

"Forgive me, I'm clueless"

 

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, October 1, 2015 9:37 AM

Somewhere in there you said that the A-10 is a complete disaster. I don't believe you.

Put it up here and we'll go over it together and talk through what you don't like.

Seriously, it'll help you.

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Posted by Eagle90 on Thursday, October 1, 2015 9:44 AM

LOL!  Yeah, it's a sickness!  Hi, my name is Bobby and I'm a modelholic...Indifferent

Dude, I just checked out your A-10 WIP post!  You are doing very well!  You are going to be a fast burner geting to other levels.  Seriously, you are doing very well.  As for weathering, and again, this is just me, I found doing armor helped with that.  Armor builds are much more forgiving than aircraft when it comes to weathering...and more fun to do!  Can't weather an armor kit too much!  LOL!  So just a suggestion.  Get you an armor kit, a ship, a car, a figure....each one has it's unique techniques and steps.  All will help with the other builds! 

Again, great work Joe!

Eagle90

 

 

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Posted by Air2AirJoe on Thursday, October 1, 2015 10:07 AM

GMorrison

Somewhere in there you said that the A-10 is a complete disaster. I don't believe you.

Put it up here and we'll go over it together and talk through what you don't like.

Seriously, it'll help you.

Yes well, you haven't seen it really close up! It's got about every noob mistake you can think of.  I appreciate the offer to work through some of the fixes with me and when i get home tonight i'll take some zoomed in pics of my problem areas and hopefully you can suggest some creative solutions.  I could definitely use some help.

Bobby (glad to know your real name now) you're way to kind - mean that literally!  When i first starting browsing around this forum i just couldn't believe the level to which you guys take this. I'm still reeling from it all. I had no idea there was a whole community of people who take this so seriously and who create such incredible works. It immediately knocked me down a few notches and caused me to slow down and want to learn instead of just rushing out to buy all the kits and cobble them all together half-assedly (is that a word?).  I actually saw one of those armor kits you're talking about last night, it specifically said "armor weathering kit".  I'll definitely pick one of those up, thanks for the suggestion!  The painting/weathering is the part im most interested in mastering because i think it really makes these models look realistic. Again, i'm just blown away by the skills of the people on here and Im looking forward to being able to put together some top notch stuff myself some day.  PS - maybe you could start a support group for model addicts!

Thanks Gents

"Forgive me, I'm clueless"

 

 

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Posted by Eagle90 on Thursday, October 1, 2015 10:20 AM

No doubt, the level of craftsmenship is amazing!  The neat thing is how down to earth everyone is.  One of my best friends on here is Bish.  He can do the most amazing things with 1/72 planes!  Just blows me away!  And his armor skills are out of this world!  He never hesitates to answer any of my novice questions!  Embarrassed

Oh yeah, weathering takes the build to another level for sure.  They have those pre made weathering sets, but lots of ways to do it on a budget!  Lots of stuff sitting around your house you can use. 

LOL!  A support group!?  We have one.....the FSM forums!  Whistling

Bobby

 

 

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Posted by dirkpitt77 on Thursday, October 1, 2015 10:40 AM

You have a gift for conversational writing. I really enjoyed reading that.

 

I don't think it's as important you pick up a supermodel (if you'll pardon the pun) as it is you pick up the one you want. Plenty of beautiful gals in my display case, and all have their flaws. Wink

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Posted by Air2AirJoe on Thursday, October 1, 2015 10:47 AM

Eagle90

LOL!  A support group!?  We have one.....the FSM forums!  Whistling

Bobby

Ha! touche!

@dirkpitt77 - thank you, sir!  ... and great analogy

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, October 1, 2015 10:51 AM

Joe, you have no idea how much my skills have rocketed 1000 fold since joining this forum and like I said before, I have been building since 1965. You are truly hooked man and it’s so great to read the excitement, it reminds me of Toshi. Your guys' post are so fun to read.
"Oh no, what are you buying now?" man I've heard that soooo many times, in fact now I buy something on the internet, and time it where it arrives during the week so I can get before my wife sees it LOL. She's not stupid though as the stash is slowly growing. I tell her I'm storing up for retirement like a squirrel stores nuts.
You have plenty of time to get the kits you want, soon you will so many you won’t know where to put them.
I know you like modern jets and that's totally cool, but you may find yourself wanting to try something different in the future. As was said before, you may want to try some armor, ships, figures (bla), Sci Fi. It's all cool! And stretches your abilities and comfort zone.

 

Keep it up Joe! You’re doing great!

BTW dito about Bish!

Steve

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, October 1, 2015 11:32 AM

Hey Joe, it is a Revell kit so it's probably not that over-priced. I wouldn't start out with a ninety buck Hasegawa F-22 but personally I'd say if you want the Revell kit go ahead and buy it. 

I have to agree, the F-22 to me at least is an attractive aircraft. The F-35 is kinda fugly but the F-22 has nice lines. Personally I think she's more futuristic looking than an X-Wing. 

Then again my favorite fighter is the P-47 Thunderbolt. I figure that if a P-47 were a woman she'd probably be about 6 foot 2, with 220 pounds of muscle and a voice deeper than mine... Wink

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Posted by Arved on Thursday, October 1, 2015 11:45 AM

At the risk of thread drift...

Gamera
Then again my favorite fighter is the P-47 Thunderbolt. I figure that if a P-47 were a woman she'd probably be about 6 foot 2, with 220 pounds of muscle and a voice deeper than mine...

I knew a guy who used to fly P-47s. With the big radial engine, and being a tail dragger, there was no way to look around the engine and figure out where you were going when taxiing. And she had tremendous torque steer. Definately a woman with her own mind, the way he described her.

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Posted by Air2AirJoe on Thursday, October 1, 2015 11:49 AM

You guys are hilarious...  love that squirreling away kits story. The p-47 being a big manly woman hahaha

Good folks here on this forum. I'm really enjoying it. Im sure Bish deserves his praise!

"Forgive me, I'm clueless"

 

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, October 1, 2015 12:03 PM

Arved

At the risk of thread drift...

 

 
Gamera
Then again my favorite fighter is the P-47 Thunderbolt. I figure that if a P-47 were a woman she'd probably be about 6 foot 2, with 220 pounds of muscle and a voice deeper than mine...

 

I knew a guy who used to fly P-47s. With the big radial engine, and being a tail dragger, there was no way to look around the engine and figure out where you were going when taxiing. And she had tremendous torque steer. Definately a woman with her own mind, the way he described her.

 

Caitlyn Jenner.

The crew chief would lie flat on the right wing holding on to the gun barrels with one hand, signaling to the pilot with the other.

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, October 1, 2015 12:09 PM

Joe: Love that F-35 vs. A-10 comparison, I'm going to have to swipe that for myself. 

GM: Um, no comment, I've already had the mods give me a little talk, not going there at all!!! Wink

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Posted by Air2AirJoe on Thursday, October 1, 2015 12:23 PM

GMorrison
 
Arved

At the risk of thread drift...

 

 
Gamera
Then again my favorite fighter is the P-47 Thunderbolt. I figure that if a P-47 were a woman she'd probably be about 6 foot 2, with 220 pounds of muscle and a voice deeper than mine...

 

I knew a guy who used to fly P-47s. With the big radial engine, and being a tail dragger, there was no way to look around the engine and figure out where you were going when taxiing. And she had tremendous torque steer. Definately a woman with her own mind, the way he described her.

 

 

 

Caitlyn Jenner.

 

The crew chief would lie flat on the right wing holding on to the gun barrels with one hand, signaling to the pilot with the other.

 

 

Drift away my friend... I'm sure we all appreciate those "back when men were men" stories.

Gamera - check it: http://imgur.com/gallery/fZhUv

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, October 1, 2015 1:14 PM

Lol, thanks, those are some funny stuff- gotta love the A-10! 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, October 1, 2015 1:24 PM
I have the Revell F-22 in the stash, I assume its the same kit as its the RoG kit in the blue box, and it does look really nice. Recent Revell release's have been top notch. Some of there kits, such as the new Ju 88A-4, easily rival hasegawa but at a third of the price. I would say just go ahead and build it. Don't let the scale put you of. In fact, IMHO, starting with a lrger scale and then moving down could be doing it the hard way. 72nd really is not as bad as many people think and when its what you know, they don't look small at all.

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, October 1, 2015 1:25 PM

Air2AirJoe

You guys are hilarious...  love that squirreling away kits story. The p-47 being a big manly woman hahaha

Good folks here on this forum. I'm really enjoying it. Im sure Bish deserves his praise!

 

Air2AirJoe

 

Good folks here on this forum. I'm really enjoying it. Im sure Bish deserves his praise!

 

 

O no he doesn't.

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Thursday, October 1, 2015 1:26 PM

Meh, I never cared for looks of the F-35 or the F-22. The F/A-18 Super Hornet is and have always been a sexy beast of modern jet. Besides, the Navy & Marines have the best looking fighter jets.

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Posted by patrick206 on Thursday, October 1, 2015 2:27 PM

Joe - Nice story, thanks. Sorry you're not thrilled with your current build, remember, Lindberg didn't make his Atlantic crossing on his first flight, some experience was acquired before.

My suggestion was to try a couple of 1:72 scale models first, not a larger scale, for these reasons. 

1. Quicker to build, fewer parts, get the skills of fitting, cementing and finishing in place, then move on.

2. 1:72 is less costly, especially in the Revell/Monogram lineup. Any mistakes along the way don't result in a mega $ kit getting messed up a bit.

3. The parts count of a smaller kit size is far less than in a larger scale, you can develop your skills during a faster build. As you proceed, you can see for yourself how you're progressing, plus you'll have some finished models to enjoy looking at.

I'm age 74, started building balsa and plastic models in about 1949, stayed with it over all of these years, truly an enjoyable hobby. I'll point out one wrong thing to do, that is to buy kits with the intention to "build it later." Later can be a month, or as has happened, many years. By then the decals are shot, someone has produced a much better kit and like me, you end up with Hasegawa and Tamiya BIG $ kits like 1:32 fighters, with hundreds of raised rivets and panel lines that look atrocious.

At my worst, I had well over three hundred kits stashed. Then, after careful selection I pared it down to the present 140. At my age I'll never complete them all, so the neighborhood kids, vets at the VA hospital and others are getting them as gifts. At any hobby shop I'm like a blind dog in a meat market, I can't have it all, but want it so badly.

Now I just put on my big boy pants, hands in pockets and buy only the building supplies I need.

I'll second the thought that your model is likely much better than you think, remember not to compare yours with someone like Lawdog or Jay Jay and many others, they are really experienced and talented.

C YA

Patrick  

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Posted by Cat Daddy on Thursday, October 1, 2015 2:33 PM

Hey Joe, I'm a few months more experienced in this model-building thing and I feel your pain. I scan the kits at Michael's or my LHS and then get sad when I see "Skill Level 3" or "Skill Level 4" on something I'd love to build. I'm sticking to SL 2 kits for a little while to get my chops up and I look forward to getting my Skill Level 2 merit badge and graduating to Skill Level 3.

Current WIP: Revell P40-B.

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Posted by GAF on Thursday, October 1, 2015 5:44 PM

Joe,

Good work on NOT buying that F-22 Raptor at Hobby Lobby!  First, you need to print out their 40% off coupon... THEN buy it!  Big Smile

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Thursday, October 1, 2015 7:06 PM

Cat Daddy

Hey Joe, I'm a few months more experienced in this model-building thing and I feel your pain. I scan the kits at Michael's or my LHS and then get sad when I see "Skill Level 3" or "Skill Level 4" on something I'd love to build. I'm sticking to SL 2 kits for a little while to get my chops up and I look forward to getting my Skill Level 2 merit badge and graduating to Skill Level 3.

Current WIP: Revell P40-B.

 

 

Skill levels on kits is one of the biggest pet peeves of mine. It means nothing. My advice? I wouldn't let the skill levels get in the way of buying the kit. Who cares? Buy it and build it. When I first saw those Skill levels on the kits, I thought "screw it", who's to stop me from buying that kit regardless of experience level? I've done kits way beyond my skill level years ago and they came out pretty good. Skill levels really means the amount of parts to assemble the kit. Consider it a challenge for yourself.

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Posted by allan on Thursday, October 1, 2015 10:46 PM

Im with Eagle90; I stopped counting my stash when it reached 271... and that was in 2002.

Just ask yourself, which is worse: not intending to build it now but buying it anyway, or raring and itching to build it and finding out model companies no longer produce it?   I know F-22 kits will probably be around for the next few decades, but Im pretty convinced by this argument.  Lol.

 

My wife actually smiles whenever I buy kits. She says better youre busy in the hobby room building stuff than out drinking with friends. I love her so much.

 

 

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Posted by Air2AirJoe on Friday, October 2, 2015 7:43 AM

Some of you guys have hundreds of kits still in their boxes ?!?! That's what you're saying? That's too funny.  I hadn't considered the part about them not being available/produced any more.

BlackSheep I see where you're coming from and I'll keep that in mind. If there's something I want to build I wont necessarily rule it out just because it's a higher skill level. 

Thanks guys and I hope everyone has some time set aside this weekend for reducing the stash size

"Forgive me, I'm clueless"

 

 

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Friday, October 2, 2015 7:44 AM

Aha !

 Someone who likes the same aircraft I do . The 22 is truly beautiful bird . I still have mine stashed waiting for these ship - building hands to caress her . Nice writing , by the way .   T.B.

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Posted by Air2AirJoe on Friday, October 2, 2015 7:46 AM

And Patrick sorry I misunderstood your first post about the scale. Thanks for clarifying and I'll pick up a 1:72 after this A-10 and see how it goes!

"Forgive me, I'm clueless"

 

 

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