panel lines

Unless Testors has re done their clear flat/gloss lacquer formula, it will yellow over time specially over white paint. I have been using Future for well over 20 years too and have NEVER had an issue using it. One of the last older builds I had being close to 30 years old was sealed in Future and was recently sold on Ebay. The US Navy high visibilty scheme including the white areas did not yellow and the paint looked like the first day I prayed it on. On the other hand, I had Testors clear gloss lacquer yellow only after about 5-7 years. 

Some modelers have a bad experience with a product or hear of one and automatically condemm its use. I have a friend who used Alclad for the first time and had an awful experience with the black primer. We have heard horror stories about that because the first black primer badges were bad and some even sprayed really bad.

Now he refuses to use Alclad and even gave me a couple of the bottles he had. And as for me, I love how Alclad sprays and the metallic tone it puts down. 

Tojo

I also use Flory but I use it over a Future gloss coat which makes it easy to wipe off once it's dry. I have noticed that if used over a flat coat, it makes it a lot harder to wipe off and will darken the finish a bit, acting like a filter. 

Stuburbia

two, can i take some of the shine out of future because it is very shinny, and im not really looking for that look

Future can be flattened with Tamiya flat base, X-21. I use a 3 part Future to 1 part Tamiya for a final flat coat. This ratio works for me and can be adjusted flatter or glossier depending on one's desired look. You can expect mixed responses on topics due the the wealth of experience found on theses forums. It is a personal journey that you will play out trying any technique or tips you choose to use.

Krylon... I cringe at the thought of anyone wanting - let alone suggest using any Krylon product. Take it from my own experience - DO NOT USE KRYLON!! they're garbage and they've changed the formula on all their product. I used Krylon on a couple of my kits and it literally ruined them! I ended up tossing both in the bin. I was absolutley p***ed  and disgusted with krylon. Krylon has been banished from my home forever.

Now back to the topic of using Future. I have heard numerous folks using Future and have had ZERO issues with them. Maybe your was an old bad batch. I highly doubt location, weather, temps have anything to do with it. Everyone swears by them and I have used them as well. Again, I haven't heard a whole lot of negative issues with Future. Each to his own I guess.

For me and aircraft panel lines,the go to combination has been Future and Flory Panel Wash,great stuff,organic,and easy to use.Usually the Future isn't my final coat,mostly I cover it up with a flat coat.

Well, Sir. I understand what you're saying, but a quite a few people have complained about future yellowing, and ruining their decals, and paint. Maybe your situation may be different because of your location geographically, or because of the difference in humidity, heat, cold, or other environmental factors beyond any one persons' control. It's hard to say without looking at your builds. This includes how thick it's applied, what other paint types were used with it, their composition, formulation, etc.  Also I don't use washes, but most people use ink with rubbing alcohol which is the traditional method other than using plain black enamel thinned with mineral spirits. Either way, KRYON acrylic clear coat in flat won't be acidic, or chemically reactive enough to damage anything! This is the reason why I use it. I've never had a problem spraying it directly from the can. However, other people may want to use an airbrush for spraying tiny detail without getting a bunch of build up, or they aren't confident using the cheap spray button that most spray paint cans still come with. That's been my experience, and that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

~ Cobra Chris

@ Cobra Chris, I have been using Future for nearly 20 years now and have noticed no yellowing at all on my oldest builds with it. Now Testors rattle can glosscoats and dullcoats that I used previously are all yellowing. Those products I stay clear of for the past 20 years. Their  Gloss coat I replaced with Future. For Flat top coats I have tried various products, and my personal favorite is Humbrol matt coat in the little tin. Ah well, live and learn.

But a simple answer to the question is a gloss coat will help any washes flow in the panel lines. As well as improve decal adheasion and reduce or eliminate silvering. But the main issue for washes is dissimilar layers. If you use an enamel or oil wash, an acrylic layer beneath is desirable due to the thinners in the wash being likely to attack any enamel layer beneath without an acrylic coat in between. If you use acrylic paints this is not an issue. But the rough finish of flat paints can show "tide marks" from your wash as staining. The gloss coat will eliminate that and help the flow of any washes.

Any time!

~ Cobra Chris

Thanks so much☺

Yes. No matter what you use for your panel lines as long as it's completely dry. Spray your clear coat LIGHTLY so that it doesn't cause the wash to run, and ruin your paint job. You'll be perfectly safe.

~ Cobra Chris

Firstly, it depends what you are useing for the panel line wash and what paint you have used.

As for the future, if you are useing it as a protective coat or just to give a shine before adding decals, then once the decals and weathering are added, you can give it a flkat or semi flat coat, depending on what end result you want.

There's no need to post another thread. As I said in the first one, if you don't understand, or if you have a question, just ask! We're here to help. 

DO NOT USE FUTURE!! I know that there are those who use this stuff, but I HIGHLY DON'T RECOMMEND IT! This is floor polish - not paint, and therefore its' formulation isn't suitable for modeling regardless of what other peoples' experience may be. It turns yellow over time, and it can ruin your model!!It also makes painting it harder, and there is no real remover for it as others have either destroyed their decals using it, or have destroyed their paint surface with it so I say use KRYLON clear coat which IS formulated for use with PLASTIC, WOOD, AND METAL.  You can use a gloss which doesn't allow for the wash to either stain, or run all over your model. The surface tension, and glossiness keep the wash from being absorbed into it, and helps with the flow of the wash to keep it in the panel lines. So the answer is NO concerning the use of FLOOR WAX/POLISH. Use either KRYLON brand clearcoat, or TAMIYA, or TESTORS, or something that IS a paint finish, and NOT something designed for use with floors like waxes, or polishes which is what Future truly is! Go ahead and seal your panel lines if you're going to either do a weathered look, or if you're going to do other colours for a "patch work quilt" look as if it has had repairs over time. I've never used a clear coat with panel lines as they're supposed to look oily so a clear coat isn't necessary over it. Ultimately it's up to you - it's your choice whether you want to or not. I'd say no personally.

~ Cobra Chris