New Models at Hobby Lobby?

Just in case you guys who still shop at Hobby Lobby missed this: it bears repeating.

route62

"... the Green family had to pay a mutli million dollar fine and lose the artifacts because the way they were paying for the artifacts directly funded isis and they knew it. 

 

You buy stuff from Hobby Lobby.  That money makes its way to the Green family through fair and legal means and capitalism. The Green family buys artifacts on the black market knowingly funding isis.

Isis buys explosives, makes a ied, kills a US soldier.  

 

 

Agreed. I'd say for the most part that their model customer base is the casual modeler. The serious modeler has their hobby shop in the area or online already picked out. But the kid with mom or the grandparent goes in there, or one of those non builder adults looks to HL for a model gift there.

Yeah, I haven't seen models at Toys R Us in ages. Used to occasionally buy them there as a kid in the early 80s. K-Mart was my mainstay, though.

Almost forgot: HL also had a bunch of new 1/144 scale Trumpeter kits. 

Again, the selection seems totally haphazard. No real sales strategy. I mean, is there really that much of a market for 1/144 stuff?

Conversely, I suppose it's also possible that their target buyers don't really care about stuff like scale and just buy what looks cool. That's what I did as a kid.  

I have not seen a model sold at Toys R Us in close to 20 years. The one by me stopped carrying Models probably in the mid to late 90's. And the Hobby Lobby that they opened up in town is in the same center, right next door to Toys R Us. 

Took my son to HL today to pick up some glue, and they did indeed have a number of new kits. 

Really disappointing stuff. It looks like they replaced the usual Revell/Monogram stuff with a number of pre-painted Hobby Boss 1/72 kits. Nothing even remotely interesting. 

warshipguy

The nearest Hobby Lobby to me is about 50 miles away from where I live.  It doesn't seem worth the trip to me.  I have a local hobby shop that I have used since the late 1970s, and I mail order what they can't get.  I might make the trip someday out of curiosity, particularly for the Vallejo paints.

Bill Morrison

 

I agree,not where we would go out of our way for,especially if you got a good LHS.This was the 1st one in the area,only 2 mi away.

The nearest Hobby Lobby to me is about 50 miles away from where I live.  It doesn't seem worth the trip to me.  I have a local hobby shop that I have used since the late 1970s, and I mail order what they can't get.  I might make the trip someday out of curiosity, particularly for the Vallejo paints.

Bill Morrison

Well,I went to the grand opening of the Hobby Lobby in my area.For a non model shop it was pretty good.They had about 1 side of an aisle worth of models,mostly cars but some Tamiya armor and Revell planes.I don't think they will be my primary source of models,but with that 40% coupon I could have gotten the Gamma Goat or Easy 8 at really low prices.

They have a supply of Vallejo Paints and MM Acrylics,glues,and various supplies. Airbrushes and parts were available,brushes,artist oils.So I downloaded my coupon,and picked up an Optivisor and a handful of supplies.My wife also enjoyed it,so while not a LHS as we know it,it was useful and I will use it.

route62

I agree trying to save priceless artifacts is a worthy pursuit but the issue was the way they did it.  It was proven and the Green family had to pay a mutli million dollar fine and lose the artifacts because the way they were paying for the artifacts directly funded isis and they knew it. 

Just to connect the dots...

You buy stuff from Hobby Lobby.  That money makes its way to the Green family through fair and legal means and capitalism. The Green family buys artifacts on the black market knowingly funding isis.

Isis buys explosives, makes a ied, kills a US soldier.  

You have to ask how many modelers serve, served or have family serving.

 

Probably the usual Revell and Monogram kits.

Just an update:

I stopped in to HL today to pick up some primer and noticed that lots of kits had been moved to the clearance section, and the shelves were half empty.

The guy working there said that a slew of new kits are arriving shortly. It'll be interesting to see what they get in. 

First, thank you for serving stik.  A valid point.  I am as guilty as the next person for filling up.  

When an oil company purchases from opec, they are dealing in the open market.  If that government then takes that money and funds terrorism I can't blame the oil company.

Many of the same countries buy our weapons and turn and use them in horrible ways.  I do not blame the US or the weapons manufacturer but the government of that country.

The Green family dealt in the black market will full knowledge where the money was going.  Had they purchased the artifacts legally on the open market and then that government or seller of the artifacts funneled money to terrorists, I would not blame the Green family.

I don't judge anyone buying from Hobby lobby or buying gas to get to work.  You are right, it is an imperfect world and we are all guilty in one way or another.  

For myself, there are many sources to get what I need for this hobby.  It's a small way I can take back a little control over where my money goes.

Not shopping at HL is a choice that's doable. Not buying fossil fuels from the Middle East is immeasurable harder, although we are getting there. Sure wish I had an electric car.

And it's only the latest transgression. Bad staff treatment too.

i see it as a simple matter for me.

You can also argue the same thing for gasoline, as isis receives major funding from the Gulf states, who in turn derive their income from their oil exports. And I'm willing to bet that isis receives far more funding from our various "allies" in that part of the world than they got from one business  transaction. 

I served until 2007, and my son is serving now. It is what it is. 

I agree trying to save priceless artifacts is a worthy pursuit but the issue was the way they did it.  It was proven and the Green family had to pay a mutli million dollar fine and lose the artifacts because the way they were paying for the artifacts directly funded isis and they knew it. 

Just to connect the dots...

You buy stuff from Hobby Lobby.  That money makes its way to the Green family through fair and legal means and capitalism. The Green family buys artifacts on the black market knowingly funding isis.

Isis buys explosives, makes a ied, kills a US soldier.  

You have to ask how many modelers serve, served or have family serving.

No, not at all; you completely missed the point---did you miss the posts about the hypocrisy and illegal, unethical behavior by this company? I put my money behind people whose values coincide with mine, and my values don't include theft and deception for self-gain and ideology.

Honestly, I would pay double for something from a company which I respect rather than one which is deceitful and hypocritical. That's just how I roll.

 

A lot of the Christian artifacts and other historical sites were being destroyed once these areas fell under ISIS control. Smuggling them was wrong. Trying to preserve them is not. There was probably a better way to accomplish this.

Yes I did. Don in trains was a good friend, as was John the owner.

OOOPS ! Didn't you know Fransiscan closed about a year or more ago ?

Zar

The best one's I know of that are still around are down around Buena Park/Anaheim. I'm in the SF Bay Area.

San Antonio Hobby.

Theres still one in San Carlos.

Zar, Hobby Lobby is certainly not a model store. They just happen to have an aisle full, like all department stores once did years ago. If you come down to OC now and then, there are two super old school hobby shops here. Brookhurst Hobbies in Garden Grove and Military Hobbies in Orange. The only shop that I know of in Anaheim at Hobby City has nothing on those two. 

I never even knew about them until I joined this forum. Due to it being talked about, I thought it might be a model store. My mistake. That said I stand by my opinion. The 40% coupon is a plus and I have ended up buying a few things.  Sadly the only real hobby stores that I loved are all gone. The best one's I know of that are still around are down around Buena Park/Anaheim. I'm in the SF Bay Area.  I did go to a great one in New York City. Jan's.

Tanker - Builder

Oh My ;

 Another company guilty of having a corporate and black market face ? This is distressing , I have to admit . And the hypocrisy of closing on Sunday ? If there were an alternate place closer I would go there . Both my reliable LHs's are an hour's drive there and back .

 The truth is , How many got hurt on the Stock market shenagins of some years back ? I certainly did and I'll be paying for that till I pass . No retirement savings anymore . YET , Many folks still do business with some of the still existing malefactors .

 Same story , different bad guys . Those of us with any morality would refuse to go in the place .  Their marketing folks know about this too .That's why select stores in select locations . I don't have a choice .

 Well , I guess I do , But that leaves me little margin .

 

Exactly. If you do business with nearly any bank, the same issues arise in one way or another. 

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This is one store that deserves to fail because of online competition if you ask me.

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Deserves to fail? Aren't you being a bit drastic. 

Then according to your logic all brick and mortar hobby stores also deserve  the same fate because their prices cannot compete with the on line shops.

[/quote]No, not at all; you completely missed the point---did you miss the posts about the hypocrisy and illegal, unethical behavior by this company? I put my money behind people whose values coincide with mine, and my values don't include theft and deception for self-gain and ideology.

Honestly, I would pay double for something from a company which I respect rather than one which is deceitful and hypocritical. That's just how I roll.

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Yes I missed that part, never saw anything in the news. It doesn't look good for them IMO. 

Oh My ;

 Another company guilty of having a corporate and black market face ? This is distressing , I have to admit . And the hypocrisy of closing on Sunday ? If there were an alternate place closer I would go there . Both my reliable LHs's are an hour's drive there and back .

 The truth is , How many got hurt on the Stock market shenagins of some years back ? I certainly did and I'll be paying for that till I pass . No retirement savings anymore . YET , Many folks still do business with some of the still existing malefactors .

 Same story , different bad guys . Those of us with any morality would refuse to go in the place .  Their marketing folks know about this too .That's why select stores in select locations . I don't have a choice .

 Well , I guess I do , But that leaves me little margin .

the doog

Guys, just wondering how anyone could shop at these scumbags anymore? They got caught and indicted for KNOWINGLY smuggling ("stealing") priceless, irreplaceable antiquities on the black market. Ain't no rationalizing it. It's pretty shameful and immoral. I would urge you to think twice. 
 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/06/opinion/hobby-lobby-iraq-artifacts.html

 

You have a good point.  I've never shopped there before, so I won't miss it.  

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[quote user="the doog"

This is one store that deserves to fail because of online competition if you ask me.

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Deserves to fail? Aren't you being a bit drastic. 

Then according to your logic all brick and mortar hobby stores also deserve  the same fate because their prices cannot compete with the on line shops.

[/quote]No, not at all; you completely missed the point---did you miss the posts about the hypocrisy and illegal, unethical behavior by this company? I put my money behind people whose values coincide with mine, and my values don't include theft and deception for self-gain and ideology.

Honestly, I would pay double for something from a company which I respect rather than one which is deceitful and hypocritical. That's just how I roll.

[quote user="the doog"

This is one store that deserves to fail because of online competition if you ask me.

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Deserves to fail? Aren't you being a bit drastic. 

Then according to your logic all brick and mortar hobby stores also deserve  the same fate because their prices cannot compete with the on line shops.

BlackSheepTwoOneFour

 

 

 

Funny, they close on Sundays because they say it's a day of worship to to spend time with family. Kind of ironic isn't it after the news story broke about them obtaining illegal goods.

 

 

GMorrison

I'd be lying if I chose not to shop there, only because I don't have the choice. If I did, I wouldn't.

 

 

stikpusher

Karl, we can agree to disagree here. You can shop where you choose, as can anyone else here. Not rationalizing  their actions, but I'll spend my money where I can get the best deal and I can get what I seek in person then and there. If their store was not nearby, I'd shop elsewhere for the best bargain. But since they are, I gotta stretch my spending cash as far as I can. 

Posting a New York Times opinion piece is probably venturing into the realm of political.