To all Filipino Modelers

QUOTE: Originally posted by allan Ill have to go with Beth, Lani, CBrain and the others on this. Ive been building and, naturally, buying model kits since 1983 (I started young, hehehe). STC (it wasnt known then as such) was one of the hobby shops I went to. All that time the only discount I could remember was P3 slashed off from the price of a Hasegawa F-4K/M. No, I didnt make a mistake. Three pesos. But Im not complaining. Slowly, over the years, I decided not to buy from STC entirely. Im not a rich man, but to me the discount is only secondary. Customer service is the prime reason. Its not very good. And to me this is important. I have to disagree with some of the posts made apparently in defense of the store. Yes, the salesclerks are not authorized to give discounts, but is the store owner authorized to mistreat customers? Ever heard of stories where customers are told "di naman pala bibili, eh"? Well, this author was one of those on the receiving end. Beth is right. We should talk about these things. Its called "Consumer Rights." If people have gripes about a merchant, he or she has every right to complain. The fact that there are only a few stores in the country does not mean we have to learn to live with the merchant's character; its just so sad. We have free enterprise. And the customer is always right.

Allan,

"Consumer's Rights", as with the other rights we have, shouldn't be abused.

Rico

which one do you prefer among the three, microsol, microset, or gunze's mr mark softer?

Jeepney:

The link you shared was a good one. I haven't seen one of these models representing PSG armor until this time. Thanks.

I hope more Filipino modelers here share pics of their works. It would be very nice especially from the masters. Hope you have more armor, too.

QUOTE: Originally posted by emaula Sigman, Neither was mine. cbrain, I think you you are one the level headed people in this forum, so let's just agree to disagree on certain points. Rico

I don't quite get what you're trying to say there specially the first part before the comma .... It may be my english or something, sorry about that. But I'll agree with you on the point that we'll just disagree on certain points. Let bygans be bygans.

QUOTE: Originally posted by emaula Allan, "Consumer's Rights", as with the other rights we have, shouldn't be abused. Rico

I personally don't think that asking for good service is an abuse of our consumer rights. An abuse of consumer rights would be to demand more that what is reasonable. It makes good business sense to have your clients happy with the goods and/or services you provide. It's called customer care, and that is one reason why multinational corporations are sinking millions of dollars into the call center industry here in the Philippines: customer care.

If you don't care about your customers, it's like shooting yourself in the foot. Caring for them helps insure the survival of your business. If this is the case, is it unreasonable to ask for some common courtesy from the seller? I love to browse through stores, and if i hear "di naman pala bibili, eh" would i not be entitled to some degree of consumer rights? Personally, if this was the situation presented before me, I'd just take my business elsewhere.

This is just my .

QUOTE: Originally posted by mdlchiw which one do you prefer among the three, microsol, microset, or gunze's mr mark softer?

Microset makes moving the decal around on your model's surface easier. I think it also contains a slightly milder mixture of Microsol.

I've only tried Microsol so I can't comment on the others. Haven't had any disasters yet.

QUOTE: Originally posted by shrikes QUOTE: Originally posted by emaula Allan, "Consumer's Rights", as with the other rights we have, shouldn't be abused. Rico I personally don't think that asking for good service is an abuse of our consumer rights. An abuse of consumer rights would be to demand more that what is reasonable. It makes good business sense to have your clients happy with the goods and/or services you provide. It's called customer care, and that is one reason why multinational corporations are sinking millions of dollars into the call center industry here in the Philippines: customer care. If you don't care about your customers, it's like shooting yourself in the foot. Caring for them helps insure the survival of your business. If this is the case, is it unreasonable to ask for some common courtesy from the seller? I love to browse through stores, and if i hear "di naman pala bibili, eh" would i not be entitled to some degree of consumer rights? Personally, if this was the situation presented before me, I'd just take my business elsewhere. This is just my .

Shrikes,

I couldn't agree with you more...

Jun

thanks for the info, Microsol sounds promising! hehe, even in deep recesses?

QUOTE: Originally posted by mdlchiw thanks for the info, Microsol sounds promising! hehe, even in deep recesses?

Yup! If it doesn't wait for the decal to totally dry, slice along the deep recess and apply more Microsol.

Pic is kinda blurry but this is a DML 1/35 Jagdpanther Early (still unfinished) with Milliput zimmerit a millimeter or two thick. No gloss coat was applied prior to the decals.

QUOTE: Originally posted by mdlchiw which one do you prefer among the three, microsol, microset, or gunze's mr mark softer?

Solvaset is still the best. I think JMN has em pero madaling maubos.

Noel

Wow, your jadgpanther really looks good even unfinished. Where did you get that kit? I have been waiting for it but haven't been able to get one until this time.

I hope that I can build a jadg as good as yours. Thanks for sharing the pics.

since we're in the topic of microscale products e yung Micro mask naman? How do you use that stuff a? does it need a glossy surface? or is there a certain amount of time needed before i peel it off?

Sorry for taking so long to respond...

Lipton - Thanks for the hobby store info. Yes, I am into WW II German Armor - and the Luftwaffe as well.

BigMan - Thanks for the invititation. I read my mail too late to act upon it. My loss.

Additional thanks to the following for the warm welcome to this forum;

Dwight Ta-Ala
emjaetee
MarnyGV
Sigmun
allan
Laninoche
and to any or everyone I missed.

NachtJager87

Of course I almost forgot!

CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE WINNERS!

The 2nd BAC contest was a blast. Many good models, non-stop chatting, workshops, photoshoots, and of course Fishballs!. Can't wait for the Nationals already. With blessings from God it's gonna be like the BAC contest 20x (or more) intensified!

Congratulations also to those who won in the first Internal club contest of IPMS Manila. I'd sure like to meet that 14 year old member who won .

Oh, I think I read a post regarding posting pictures of some projects well here are some of mine:



P.S. I'm sorry about my first post. I was kinda thinkin' it was saturday but obviously I was thinking wrong .

QUOTE: Originally posted by NachtJager87 Sorry for taking so long to respond... BigMan - Thanks for the invititation. I read my mail too late to act upon it. My loss. NachtJager87

Not really, NachtJager87. If you're still around by the 2nd Sunday of June, you can still visit us on our monthly meeting. Same time, same place

And you can still check out the entries and contest results as soon as our webmaster BossMan posts it on our web www.ipmsphilippines.com

Cheers!

BigMan

QUOTE: Originally posted by mdlchiw which one do you prefer among the three, microsol, microset, or gunze's mr mark softer?

hi mdlchiw,

microsol and microset are actually a system of decal solvents. as per their instruction, microset must be brushed first to the area where the decal will be applied. this will improve adhesion and will also soften the decal. after the decal is in place, you should apply microset on top of the decal to soften the decal further so that it will conform to the model when dry. or is it the other way around . but to tell you frankly, i only use either of the two, with the same results

for gunze's mark softer, i usually apply on top of the decal after the decal is in place.

so which do i prefer? i've heard somewhere that microset/sol works better on decals made in the us and europe while gunze's mark softer works well on hasegawa and tamiya decals. i actually have both at home and in my opinion, all work fine

will it work on deep recesses? actually, it also depends a lot on the decal you'll use. there are decals that react well to these solvents, thus the decal conforms even on deep recesses and large bulges . but there are also decals, no matter how much decal solvent you apply, doesnt seem to react at all! . fortunately, most decals react to these solvents.

hope this helps.

BigMan

QUOTE: Originally posted by ReggieFrancia since we're in the topic of microscale products e yung Micro mask naman? How do you use that stuff a? does it need a glossy surface? or is there a certain amount of time needed before i peel it off?

hi ReggieFrancia.

is this the blue stuff? if it is, then basically it's a 'liquid' masking tape. you can use it when complex masking is required, like a canopy with many frames. i even used it once to mask camouflage patterns for a 1/72 aircraft model.

apply it using brush on areas that need to be masked. let it dry completely and thereafter, you can start painting. after the paint is dry, you can start removing the micromask. i suggest applying masking tape (the real thing ) over the dried micromask then quickly pulling it off. most of the micromask should come off with the masking tape.

also, make sure that you apply a thick coat of micromask before you paint. otherwise, paint will seep through the mask.

a substitute would be elmer's glue. use full strength

thanks.

BigMan

QUOTE: Originally posted by Jeepney Very long day CBrain! We should have taken a pic of both our Crusaders hehe Are you going to be building it with PAF markings? We'll have to ask the guys about the mods. As far as I know the nose has to be reshaped and the tail pod has to be enlarged. Hope to see you again soon! Hope the ladies will show up next time

In as much as I would want to build it in all its PAF glory, for the time being I haven't decided on it yet. Maybe if someday I find myself the time to start on the kit and if by that time I am more confident of my modding skills, then I will.

I'm still in a state of shock by how great Tito Ting's winning models were. [:0]

QUOTE: Originally posted by mdlchiw which one do you prefer among the three, microsol, microset, or gunze's mr mark softer?

Microsol and Microset are 2 part items. Go for Microset. It does wonders even by just itself. Microsol is something like an "enhancer" for Microset

Does anyone knew how much Tamiya Acrylics is being sold at Lil's? At JMN, they costs 100 bucks

QUOTE: Originally posted by shonen_red Does anyone knew how much Tamiya Acrylics is being sold at Lil's? At JMN, they costs 100 bucks

The Tamiya Mini Acrylic paints (net 10ml) cost around PhP 75.00 while the regular ones (net 23ml) are PhP 100.00

QUOTE: Originally posted by cbrain QUOTE: Originally posted by shonen_red Does anyone knew how much Tamiya Acrylics is being sold at Lil's? At JMN, they costs 100 bucks The Tamiya Mini Acrylic paints (net 10ml) cost around PhP 75.00 while the regular ones (net 23ml) are PhP 100.00

Ngek! Same price din pala! BTW, does they have the same line of colors as the enamel one?

QUOTE: Ngek! Same price din pala! BTW, does they have the same line of colors as the enamel one?

Yes they do but I would advise you that if ever you see the color you need in the larger 23 ml bottle, pick that not the smaller 10 ml bottle because basically you get more bang for the buck. At only P 25.00 more you get more than twice the amount.
So you finally decided to try out Acrylic paints. Good luck Shonen & I tell you you will love it. Acrylics are easier to clean, they Airbrush easier, & they're less toxic.
One really good thing about them is that when you run out of alcohol or acrylic thinner, you can use ordinary water to thin the paint down! but be advised that you can use water to only dilute the paint. As much as possible don't put back excess water-diluted paint back to the bottle or the paint will be ruined (I'm speaking from experience). And of course, Tamiya acrylics are unfriendly to brush painting.

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mauser QUOTE: Ngek! Same price din pala! BTW, does they have the same line of colors as the enamel one? Yes they do but I would advise you that if ever you see the color you need in the larger 23 ml bottle, pick that not the smaller 10 ml bottle because basically you get more bang for the buck. At only P 25.00 more you get more than twice the amount. So you finally decided to try out Acrylic paints. Good luck Shonen & I tell you you will love it. Acrylics are easier to clean, they Airbrush easier, & they're less toxic. One really good thing about them is that when you run out of alcohol or acrylic thinner, you can use ordinary water to thin the paint down! but be advised that you can use water to only dilute the paint. As much as possible don't put back excess water-diluted paint back to the bottle or the paint will be ruined (I'm speaking from experience). And of course, Tamiya acrylics are unfriendly to brush painting.

Yes master Don't worry. I'll just use acrylics for figures. Para maiba naman. Maybe if I got the hang of it, dang! No more thinner sniffing!

You know what? Those 23ml Tamiya Acrylics were once sold as 75 pesos each. But now... err... increased by 25 bucks dang!

QUOTE: Originally posted by shrikes QUOTE: Originally posted by emaula Allan, "Consumer's Rights", as with the other rights we have, shouldn't be abused. Rico I personally don't think that asking for good service is an abuse of our consumer rights. An abuse of consumer rights would be to demand more that what is reasonable. It makes good business sense to have your clients happy with the goods and/or services you provide. It's called customer care, and that is one reason why multinational corporations are sinking millions of dollars into the call center industry here in the Philippines: customer care. If you don't care about your customers, it's like shooting yourself in the foot. Caring for them helps insure the survival of your business. If this is the case, is it unreasonable to ask for some common courtesy from the seller? I love to browse through stores, and if i hear "di naman pala bibili, eh" would i not be entitled to some degree of consumer rights? Personally, if this was the situation presented before me, I'd just take my business elsewhere. This is just my .

Thanks, Shrikes! Couldnt have said it better myself.

What sparked the comment from the owner was my desire to see some kits displayed on the shelves. When youre about to burn hard earned money the least you could expect is to be allowed to inspect the goods. Or find what tickles your fancy. Or at least see the whole box. Not just the box ends. I dont see any abuse in that. I wasnt asking for a discount (I knew it was a long shot to begin with). I just wanted to see the kits.

This wouldnt have happened if the kits werent placed on shelves behind the glass counters. But the design of the store wasnt something in my control.

I agree this is what sets multinational companies apart. Customer care. Its a good thing local companies are starting to catch up with the idea.

QUOTE: Originally posted by BigMan QUOTE: Originally posted by ReggieFrancia since we're in the topic of microscale products e yung Micro mask naman? How do you use that stuff a? does it need a glossy surface? or is there a certain amount of time needed before i peel it off? hi ReggieFrancia. is this the blue stuff? if it is, then basically it's a 'liquid' masking tape. you can use it when complex masking is required, like a canopy with many frames. i even used it once to mask camouflage patterns for a 1/72 aircraft model. apply it using brush on areas that need to be masked. let it dry completely and thereafter, you can start painting. after the paint is dry, you can start removing the micromask. i suggest applying masking tape (the real thing ) over the dried micromask then quickly pulling it off. most of the micromask should come off with the masking tape. also, make sure that you apply a thick coat of micromask before you paint. otherwise, paint will seep through the mask. a substitute would be elmer's glue. use full strength thanks. BigMan

BigMan,

Thanks! Elmer's Glue? Why did't i think of that?

QUOTE: Originally posted by shonen_red Does anyone knew how much Tamiya Acrylics is being sold at Lil's? At JMN, they costs 100 bucks

The 10ml bottle costs 75. The big one is 130.

Jun

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mauser QUOTE: Ngek! Same price din pala! BTW, does they have the same line of colors as the enamel one? Yes they do but I would advise you that if ever you see the color you need in the larger 23 ml bottle, pick that not the smaller 10 ml bottle because basically you get more bang for the buck. At only P 25.00 more you get more than twice the amount. So you finally decided to try out Acrylic paints. Good luck Shonen & I tell you you will love it. Acrylics are easier to clean, they Airbrush easier, & they're less toxic. One really good thing about them is that when you run out of alcohol or acrylic thinner, you can use ordinary water to thin the paint down! but be advised that you can use water to only dilute the paint. As much as possible don't put back excess water-diluted paint back to the bottle or the paint will be ruined (I'm speaking from experience). And of course, Tamiya acrylics are unfriendly to brush painting.

You're right there, Mauser. But i think I was able to get some mileage from the Acrylic types for brush painting... I tried addign a drop of Lacquer Flo (the local kind sold by Boysen) and it retarded the drying process. It flowed better and showed less streaks (if any). Anyway, you guys try it. It worked for me eh.

Jun

QUOTE: Originally posted by allan QUOTE: Originally posted by shrikes QUOTE: Originally posted by emaula Allan, "Consumer's Rights", as with the other rights we have, shouldn't be abused. Rico I personally don't think that asking for good service is an abuse of our consumer rights. An abuse of consumer rights would be to demand more that what is reasonable. It makes good business sense to have your clients happy with the goods and/or services you provide. It's called customer care, and that is one reason why multinational corporations are sinking millions of dollars into the call center industry here in the Philippines: customer care. If you don't care about your customers, it's like shooting yourself in the foot. Caring for them helps insure the survival of your business. If this is the case, is it unreasonable to ask for some common courtesy from the seller? I love to browse through stores, and if i hear "di naman pala bibili, eh" would i not be entitled to some degree of consumer rights? Personally, if this was the situation presented before me, I'd just take my business elsewhere. This is just my . Thanks, Shrikes! Couldnt have said it better myself. What sparked the comment from the owner was my desire to see some kits displayed on the shelves. When youre about to burn hard earned money the least you could expect is to be allowed to inspect the goods. Or find what tickles your fancy. Or at least see the whole box. Not just the box ends. I dont see any abuse in that. I wasnt asking for a discount (I knew it was a long shot to begin with). I just wanted to see the kits. This wouldnt have happened if the kits werent placed on shelves behind the glass counters. But the design of the store wasnt something in my control. I agree this is what sets multinational companies apart. Customer care. Its a good thing local companies are starting to catch up with the idea.

I couldn't agree with you more, pre. It happened to me both at Fairview as well as in Makati Cinema Square (two different stores of course). I asked to see the Lionfish sub by Revell but all I got was a fishy stare... (all because they stocked the unit at the top portion of the display ). I mean, so what if you have to use a stool to get it. You could have just let an opportunity pass by. Actually they did. Both times I had the cash to buy it and now, I don't think I want to anymore.

Jun